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Re: EAA 45-70 ???

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08 December 2004, 07:02
wrongtarget
Re: EAA 45-70 ???
FWIW...

http://www.eaacorp.com/firearms/rifles/sidebyside/izhmp221t.shtml
08 December 2004, 07:46
duckster
I was wondering that question myself, can the .45/70 version take some of the higher pressure loads from Garret, Cor-bon or Buffalo Bore? It would seem that it is the same action as the others that are chambered for the high pressure of the .308, .30-06 and even .270 which is 65,000 psi. If it could hit a 6 or 8 inch target at 50-75 yards, it would truly be a real value for the money.
08 December 2004, 08:19
Bill/Oregon
I'm with Jeffe on this one. The rifle may not be up to rechambering to a bigger-base nitro case, but it no doubt could be punched out to .45-90 or .45-110.
I have owned two Baikal shotguns and the things aren't fancy, but they are built like Russian tanks.
08 December 2004, 10:25
Leopardtrack
Jeff,
You make a very valid point. I would like to see one. Could it be re-chambered for a Nitro Express round?
08 December 2004, 12:33
duckster
What is the operating pressure of some of the old .45 cal Nitro rounds.
08 December 2004, 13:35
Bill/Oregon
Just e-mailed EAA and their latest reply on availability of the double rifles was: "You will see this rifle in mid-2005 as the Spartan by Remington."
08 December 2004, 15:22
Leopardtrack
How much work would it be to re-chamber to say 450#2, and could the rifle handle it, or one of the hot Garrett loads??
08 December 2004, 16:43
45LCshooter
Hey, I have one of their shotguns too; thought about making a Cape Gun out of it (that way, you don't even have to worry about regulation) but began shooting clays with it and I don't want to stop. That is ok, it was the long barreled version anyway and it would cost more to have them cut and re-soldered than I paid for the shotgun, new. Somewhere down the road I will go back and get a short version (coachgun) and have one of the barrels lined. Too bad they are not super-strong greener crossbolt actions, I might have gotten the 20 gauge and had the barrel lined and chambered to 450 Martini-Henry just to save from changing the extractors.
09 December 2004, 06:48
Roger
450 Alaskan, just a re-bore in the chambers.

Roger QSL
09 December 2004, 13:32
RussB
Is anyone familar with what they are saying about regulating the barrels?

"The MP221 applies modern technology to a traditional side by side rifle. A reasonably priced side by side rifle with the traditional methodology for barrel regulation (shims and solder).
Fix one barrel and allow the customer to adjust the second barrel to the first.
Therefore you sight in one barrel and adjust the second barrel point of impact to the first via a jackscrew between the barrels. The jackscrew is a simple answer to an age old problem of barrel regulation on a side by side rifle"...

Where would the "jack screw" be located? I have seen a "regulation" screw located on the end of the short fore end that simply applied pressure to one, or the other barrels at a distance of about 12"-14" from the breech. It was my assumption that this device was for different loads and not for regulating both barrels.
Could anyone expound on this just a bit?
I've got a feeling that all is not as it appears with these new rifles...sure hope I'm wrong.

Thanks, Russ
09 December 2004, 16:17
Crazyquik
Quote:

for 650$, if it shoots minute of PUMPKIN at 50 yards, it's a poor man's double...






I bought Judge G's 20" barrel model with the tubes.

At 50 yds its shooting a right and a left, one barrel hitting dead on and the other 6" to the right.

I plan to play with some more loads though. I've kinda lost interest in it lately though as the novelty has worn off...
09 December 2004, 16:30
duckster
That or the .457 Magnum which is a wildcat from Wild West Guns. It is listed to push a 350 grain bullet to 2175 fps from a 18.5 inch barrel. So, in the 23.5 inch barrel listed, it should be able to get a easy 2225 fps with the 350 and 1850 fps to 1900 fps with a 500 grain slug. That would be certainly effective, as well as fun and cheap.