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Model 70 Classic Stainless .375??
29 May 2005, 10:02
Mickey1Model 70 Classic Stainless .375??
I didn't do anything. I took it to a fellow called Lee Kuhns and he replaced it with the spring and follower from a pre 64 Alaskan. He had to tweak it a bit because at first the top two rounds would jump out of the action. Now it feeds perfectly and is smooth as silk.
RIP
The stock does have some black splotches on it. It is camo'ed for misty mornings, fog and snow.
Mickey,
I get it. When you are invisible in a dense fog, so is the rifle and the game.
Actually I meant for you to use a lot more black paint than that.
The Sunny Hill magazine box and drop box McMillan stock would do it. The pre-64 M70 with a slightly wider box and standard depth only holds 4 down in .375 H&H. We are still scratching our heads ove 5 down with just a switch of spring and follower. That doesn't do it for mine.
29 May 2005, 20:53
Mickey1quote:
Mickey,
I get it. When you are invisible in a dense fog, so is the rifle and the game.
That's right. That is why we all wear Gray Flannel Suits for camo around here.
I don't know what MacMillan stock I have. You would have to talk to Rick Bin at 24 Hour Campfire as I bought it from him.
The Alaskan follower is quit a bit thinner than the stock one. The spring is also shaped much differently, without the 'step' of the stock one.
I think, although not sure, that the 375 Alaskan was a bit different than the standard 375 pre 64.
31 May 2005, 06:29
billhilly66Wal-Mart has them for $719. Is this the same gun you can get elsewhere? Sometimes Wally world sells "special versions" of stuff that aint quite the same. Where else could a fella get one of these on the cheap?
Libertatis Aequilibritas
31 May 2005, 08:24
grizzinaterbillhilly, i would recommend checking the classifieds on this site daily. it seems every couple days theres one for sell. Or just post that you want to buy one and watch the replies come.
31 May 2005, 12:50
billhilly66Thanks, I just missed one on the classifieds and didn't know how often they came up.
Libertatis Aequilibritas
31 May 2005, 23:59
Grizzly1Mickey1,
Do you have Mr. Kuhns' Phone # or any contact info?
On the M70 SS .375. Get one, they are tough rigs
and great shooters. Would like to change over to the .375 Wthby though, some day soon.
-Ron
01 June 2005, 15:24
cducatI might post this in gunsmithing too... Inspired by this thread I put the follower and mag spring from my 30-06 Winchester 1955 Super Grade into my .375 stainless 'beater' and hey presto 4 and a half down, flawless feeeding etc. Anyone know how to get hold of an equivalent follower and spring or any other suggestions?? Charlie.
06 June 2005, 12:25
458WinThe stainless 375 M-70 is THE Alaskan bear hunter and guide's rifle. I gave one to Tim Stelzer, one of my long time guides when they first came out and he could break and anvil.He has carried the rifle daily for nearly a decade with no problem other than a little smoothing on the extractor cut out on the breech face. I also carry one that is cut down to 21 inches with the barrel turned down to M-70 ftw configuration. Again no problems. I also have one I had re-barreled to .416 Rem and put in a Borden stock. Again, you couldn't ask for a more carefree and useful rifle.
I even took a file and slimmed the stock and removed the mold lines. It makes a much better feeling stock. As much as many folks whine about them the factory tupperware stocks are tough and do the job. Hell, it's just a handle.
Anyone who claims the 30-06 is ineffective has either not tried one, or is unwittingly commenting on their own marksmanship
Phil Shoemaker
Alaska Master guide
FAA Master pilot
NRA Benefactor
www.grizzlyskinsofalaska.com quote:
Originally posted by 458Win:
The stainless 375 M-70 is THE Alaskan bear hunter and guide's rifle. I gave one to Tim Stelzer, one of my long time guides when they first came out and he could break and anvil.He has carried the rifle daily for nearly a decade with no problem other than a little smoothing on the extractor cut out on the breech face. I also carry one that is cut down to 21 inches with the barrel turned down to M-70 ftw configuration. Again no problems. I also have one I had re-barreled to .416 Rem and put in a Borden stock. Again, you couldn't ask for a more carefree and useful rifle.
I even took a file and slimmed the stock and removed the mold lines. It makes a much better feeling stock. As much as many folks whine about them the factory tupperware stocks are tough and do the job. Hell, it's just a handle.
Amen, Brother Phil.
Mine came from a big chain store (Fred Meyer) in Soldotna, AK, passing through on a fishing trip. I saw that baby in the rack in 1996 and had to have it. Later, when WalMart made it to Anchorage, they offered this rifle over the counter too.
Since it shoots sub-MOA as a .375 Wby now, I wouldn't dream of changing the Tupperware stock until something goes wrong with it. A slip-on rubber Pachmayr size medium recoil pad gets it over 14" LOP and is gentle to shoot.
Alas, I can beat the stock with a rock and laugh about it, as nothing much happens, so I may never get to join the extended pinky finger crowd with this rifle.
Edited for date correction above.
quote:
Originally posted by cducat:
I might post this in gunsmithing too... Inspired by this thread I put the follower and mag spring from my 30-06 Winchester 1955 Super Grade into my .375 stainless 'beater' and hey presto 4 and a half down, flawless feeeding etc. Anyone know how to get hold of an equivalent follower and spring or any other suggestions?? Charlie.
I just missed one on Ebay that closed a couple of days ago. I forgot the time and someone else got the follower and spring for about $26. I'm still kicking myself.
Frank
"I don't know what there is about buffalo that frightens me so.....He looks like he hates you personally. He looks like you owe him money."
- Robert Ruark, Horn of the Hunter, 1953
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The newly made springs for the .300 RUM Winchester M70 are readily available, and will allow 4 down in .375 H&H. I got a couple from Jack First, in Rapid City SD.
Flat spring with no "spacer bump" built into it.
Using the M70-RUM box, spring, and follower allows 4 down with .375 Wby, and smooth feed/function.
All new parts straight from the factory, or find them from the "niche" suppliers.
07 June 2005, 07:10
grizzinaterhey rip, so on my model 70ss 375hh, all i would have to do is get a 300rum spring and that would allow 4 down. or do i need the follower and box also...thanks
Just the spring will do it for .375 H&H.
07 June 2005, 10:32
grizzinaterthanks rip. Just curious but have you done this and does it feed reliably..if so i will be making a purchase
Yes, I did and it does, and I was goaded into it by lawndart.
07 June 2005, 20:13
lawndartI picked up three of the RUM follower springs from Wisner's for about $10.95 each. I nabbed some new spring steel extractors and extractor collars from Matt Williams. For less than $30.00 per gun I was able to improve feeding and reliability.
*Mini Thread Hijack Alert* I am getting a Winchester take off, unfired 416 Rem Mag barrel for a touch over $100.00. I have a new Dave Kiff 416 Rem Mag reamer, so it should be pretty easy to put everything together. If it fouls some I'll fire lap it (carefully) If the rig shoots decently I'll put it into an Echols stock and silver solder on some NECG/Recknagel iron sights and call it good. BTW, I picked up three sets of the Al Talbot QR scope base/ring set ups - SWEET. Back to our regularly scheduled thread.
lawndart
08 June 2005, 00:00
grizzinateri looked in my brownells catalog and when i looked in the back for replacment parts the only thing they list for magazine spring is std or magnum. Were can i get some for the 300rum?
08 June 2005, 02:24
lawndartDirectly from Winchester, or you can order the 378 Weatherby spring from Wisner's, or Jack First in Rapid City, or,
possibly from Numrich Arms/Gun Parts Corporation on the web.
lawndart
10 June 2005, 02:33
safarihunterCan't see anything wrong with the SS 375. I'll probably pick up one when I find one at a good price and use it as a back up to my blued.
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10 June 2005, 08:43
D HunterCan't see anything wrong with the blued 375. I'll probobly pick one up when I find one at a good price and use it as a back up to my SS/S. "D"
Although cartridge selection is important there is nothing that will substitute for proper first shot placement. Good hunting, "D"
10 June 2005, 22:34
Frans DiepstratenSo does this gun come WITH open sights? The picture in my catalogue shows it without.
Frans
10 June 2005, 23:51
Grizzly1Frans D.,
The .375 H&H in the SS Model 70 is the only one that comes with open sights. That said they are not the greatest for DG as the rear leaf is a folder, you can solder and gumpucky it to make it a fixed as RIP suggested.
-Ron
11 June 2005, 00:51
jackfishHere is a good look at the Winchester Model 70 Classic Stainless in .375 H&H Magnum.
You learn something new everyday whether you want to or not.
11 June 2005, 00:52
Frans DiepstratenThanks! Also for the reply in the other thread. I'm off in an hour to go order the gun. Sometimes life can be good, I get to order a gun with someone elses money!
Frans
11 June 2005, 03:32
Grizzly1Ohh Yeh-OPM.
-Ron