Have a look: http://www.cabelas.com/product...44%3FWTz_stype%3DGNP

The pics cannot give you all an indication of how this rifle feels in the hands. This is how a rifle should feel! The balance and distribution of weight were near perfect. Admittedly, the bolt handle is a little funky but from a feel perspective this is how they should all be built. They still have my CZ in there and it's night and day, boys. Night and day. It's truly the old rifle vs a railroad tie. However, in a .40+ I'd sure appreciate the size of that CZ magnum action. Your call.

Jeff

Guys, that is a deal for someone. There was one very similar at the guild show last year for over double that price.
Notice that the original 375 H&H rifles were around 8 1/2 pounds and were slim and well balanced. You can see how thin the stock is around the action. That is something modern makers could take notice of.

I like it.The bolt handle might work well for fast operation.

The H&H bolt handle looks a little funny to our eyes but was a way to create a little extra scope clearance and it feels perfectly normal in use

I should also add I did notice the barrel was 25" long since it pointed so well. Truly a hunting rifle in the finest sense of the word.

I like it. Especially the buttpad.

They still do.

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H&H knew how to build a rifle

That their rifles remain useful, graceful, and increase in value over time is a testament to their quality yesterday and today.

Yes, unless there is some hidden problem, that rifle is a bargain. A leather covered pad would be a nice addition. I wouldn't bother with a scope on that rifle. It will probably go quickly.

If anyone has a close look at the one at Cabela's, just check that it is not a Take Down version.

In the first photo, it looks like the tang is in 2 parts but can't get good enough picture to clearly see and can't see the type of screw used on the front of the action.

Re the recoil pad, a leather or a Silver's recoil pad would finish it off nicely.

The one at Cabela's I posted the link to is not a takedown rifle. In the photos posted by Phil, can anyone determine if the rifle configuration is 3+1 or 4+1? Mainly just curious.

Superb rifle at a great price.

It looks like a take-down rifle to me. If you choose the larger photos and zoom in then you can see the split rear tang and what appears to be a large front guard screw. I consider that a plus with this system of take-down. They still offer this take-down system as an extra option.

The sights look to be five folding leaves with no standing blade.

By Holland's standards, the wood is pretty boring.

Just being picky,

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Originally posted by John Frederick:
By Holland's standards, the wood is pretty boring.

Just being picky,

Well, it's not a Deluxe. It looks about the same as on my 1920s .375 H&H.

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Originally posted by John Frederick:
By Holland's standards, the wood is pretty boring.

Just being picky,

For that era of rifle and that quality level (it's not the highest quality they made), I think it is pretty much standard of that era.

Just my HO though.

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Originally posted by Grenadier:
It looks like a take-down rifle to me. If you choose the larger photos and zoom in then you can see the split rear tang and what appears to be a large front guard screw. I consider that a plus with this system of take-down. They still offer this take-down system as an extra option.

The sights look to be five folding leaves with no standing blade.

That's exactly what I thought and why I posted the same thought before.


I have purchased a couple of English Bolt Action take downs of this configuration
where the sellers (Auctions, shops) did NOT realise it was a take down rifle.


It needs to be looked at closely by someone or close up photos taken.

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well, shame on me if it is a takedown and i did not notice. didn't think cabela's ad indicates or not. at any rate, takedown or not, it's the best feeling rifle of any caliber i have ever had in my hands. if i can get a m70 close to feeling like that i'll be pumped.

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Originally posted by jsl3170:
well, shame on me if it is a takedown and i did not notice. didn't think cabela's ad indicates or not. at any rate, takedown or not, it's the best feeling rifle of any caliber i have ever had in my hands. if i can get a m70 close to feeling like that i'll be pumped.

I had one exactly the same that was a take down and you realy couldn't see the split tang unless you looked closely or saw the oversize front action screw.

And from talking to Cabela's a few times, they wouldn't know as they seem to have very limited knowledge of English guns.

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Looks like a take down model to me. In the good ole days there were dozens of these floating around in India when ammo became hard to find! I know someone who sold one for $200 in the 80s . But the feel of H&H rifles is to be experienced to be believed. I dont know why no modern company cant just copy one. I think the 25" barrel does make them balance well, although one would think that would not be the case.

One thing to note is that these guns are not always sub MOA shooters. The english are not fanatics of pin point accuracy I think they put more emphasis on feeding, balance, reliability and such which are probably more important really for a hunting rifle!

I just called.

Gun is sold pending funds.

They put my name on the tag in case the deal falls through.

I think it is a fine looking rifle. It may have
the old style apperance but not everyone can have that way of thinging.

Very interesting.

I called Cabelas on Monday. Told them I was 2nd in line for the gun that had a 5 day hold. They checked the inventory and told me the gun was "sold".

I just got a call and was told the gun was available and I was next in line. I asked if the original buyer had rejected it. They said no, that the buyer had "backed out of the deal".

I gave them my Cabelas Visa and they will ship out today.

Anymore thoughts on this gun, please advise. I have several Hollands but am not very familiar with their bolt trash guns .

DoubleDon

Well done. Good to see it went to someone here.

PM Sent.

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I received an email from Guy at H&H in NYC.

"#806 manufactured in 1922...take down .375...8# 5oz....leaf sights 100-500 yards and a peep sight".

I see no evidence of a peep in the photos.

Re peep sight - cocking piece peep sight, could have easily been taken off.

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I looked in Donald Dallas' book "Holland & Holland The Royal Gunmaker".

Page 138 refers to patent #8265 in 1913 in which the "sight is attached to the safety...Later versions of the sight saw it attached to the bolt head and not the safety". Examples of the latter are shown on pages 138, 145.

Anyone know who might be able to restore such a sight? Perhaps JJ Peradeau?

So your's would have had a "cocking piece peep sight".

Best bet is to find one and install it.

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Any ideas where to find one?

What is the degree of difficulty?

Thanks!

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Originally posted by DoubleDon:

I see no evidence of a peep in the photos.

That's why all the sight leaves fold down, to get out of the way of the peep sight.

So would you shoot this type of rifle or just collect it?

Hello GS55

I don't own any safe queens.

I'm not a collector. I am as Hemmingway said a "gun accumulator".

Yep, that's why I'd like to get a peep like the original. Hopefully I'll be killing deer with it this year.

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Originally posted by gunslinger55:
So would you shoot this type of rifle or just collect it?

Most of the people I know who own them (including me) shoot them.

I take more care with them and maybe not thrash them as much as some
of my other guns (Bike guns, Spotlighting guns etc,
both of which tend to get dings and dents in them).

But yes, shoot them. All the one's I have had have been very accurate.

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