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.411 KDF ?s

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04 August 2004, 18:31
Pancho
.411 KDF ?s
Anybody got a 411 KDF? How are they? What loads do you use? All info appreciated.
05 August 2004, 08:50
Gina Schultz
What is a .411 KDF?
05 August 2004, 09:25
fredj338
A distant friend I went to africa w/ a few years ago has one. He only shot some factory ammo out of it so I can't help you w/ loading. It is basically a .416rem on a std. action (.416Taylor) I don't think it uses the .416dia. bullet, but a .411. Bullet selection will be very limited unless you size down .416s.

www.accuratearms.com/data/PerCaliber2Guide/Rifle/Standarddata(Rifle)/416Cal(10.57mm)/411%20KDF%20416%20Taylor%20page%20325.pdf
05 August 2004, 10:20
MacD37
Quote:

He only shot some factory ammo out of it so I can't help you w/ loading. It is basically a .416rem on a std. action (.416Taylor) I don't think it uses the .416dia. bullet, but a .411. Bullet selection will be very limited unless you size down .416s.




Fredj338, there is no shortage of .411 bullets! Many bullet makers make them and fine quality to boot! Almost all .400 cal cartridges use either 408, or 411 dia bullets. Woodliegh has a very good 300 gr soft, and solid in this dia. Hawk, and many others have them as well!
05 August 2004, 10:47
BW
Pancho,

'Back in the day', .411 caliber cartridges were more popular than .416 caliber cartridges. Bullet availability in .411 was better, so that's what they used. You can use 416 Taylor load data for this cartidge.
05 August 2004, 11:32
BFaucett
A little trivia question for the day:

What does KDF stand for?



Answer: Kleingunther Distinctive Firearms. Founded by Robert Kleingunther who once worked for Weatherby. The .411 KDF and the KDF muzzle brake were two of KDF's creations. I don't know if Mr. Kleingunther is still alive or not but KDF is still in business in Sequin, Texas. The .411 KDF is very similar to the .416 Taylor. It's basically a 2.5" belted magnum case with a .411" bullet. (Feel free to correct me if I'm incorrect on any of this. I'm just going from memory.)

KDF, INC.
Phillip Koehne, Owner
2485 Hwy 46 North
Seguin, Texas 78155
(830) 379-8141

-Bob F.
05 August 2004, 16:26
fredj338
Mac, I know Woodleigh & Hawk make bullets & Barnes used to, but it's not like you can walk into a gun shop in most towns & find them. I know, I have the same problem w/ the .404 but then again, we have the internet. I just thought the poster would like to know it's not a .416.
BTW, you said many other makers, who? Maybe they make .423s as well?