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14 January 2005, 20:38
RangerBob
Barnes .458 light weight spitzers?
Has anyone tried the 300 and 350 grain Barnes X spitzers in a .458WM or Lott?

Any load info?

How did they work?

How was trajectory?

Thanks for any info.

Bob.
14 January 2005, 21:45
Kyler Hamann
Bob,
I've used the 300 and 350 gr. X's a lot in both the .458 WM and the .460 Wby.
They were both accurate and got pretty decent penetration (on medium sized game, I wouldn't take them to Africa).
They shoot flatter than a 500gr. RN but you still can't sell your .270 Wink
I don't have my loading data with me but as I recall the Barnes book was a lot of help.

Kyler


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14 January 2005, 23:20
Grandpasez
I use 350 and 400 gr spitzers in my 458HE
and they shoot flatter than a 270.Once killed 2 deer and a pine stump with one shot using a 400 gr spitzer..Ed.


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15 January 2005, 00:21
ELKampMaster
Reloading data?????

Barnes #3 has the 458 lott, 470 and 500 Nitro, and other African greats.

The book is a good value and a good purchase especially if you are wanting to load Barnes bullets which involve a little different load levels than "ordinary" bullets.

EKM


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15 January 2005, 03:07
cr500
Yes ,Ive used them in the 458 and 458 Lott. I have only shot animals with them in the 458. I hit a decent sized pig front on in the chest at around 25 meters. It stopped near the rear end and had shed all the petals . The pig was very dead. Load data for both cases is all with ADI powders.


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15 January 2005, 08:02
RangerBob
Of the two, which do you prefer? The 300 or the 350?

I'm leaning toward the 350. Is there a good reason to go light? Does the 300 reach out better due to high potential velocities? Does it suffer in penetration?

Or is it a toss up on deer sized game? Elk?
15 January 2005, 14:53
papaschmud
The 350 has a BC of .402 while the 300 has a BC of .340. Given the difference in speeds you can achieve, I would take the 350 every time.

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16 January 2005, 22:11
MARK H. YOUNG
Bob,

When I lived in Alaska I used the 350X in 458 WM for both moose and caribou with great results. A max 350 gr. load of IMR 4198 straight from the Hornady manual gave me 3 bullets in an inch at 2550 chronographed fps. Recoil was considerably reduced from the 500 gr. load and the versatility of the rifle greatly increased. Trajectory is essentially the same as the 375 H&H with the 300 gr. bullet over any reasonable range.

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Mark


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17 January 2005, 00:23
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I agree with Mr. Young. The 350 X is the best choice for a light .458. It gives about 2500fps with most top loadings, gives decent trajectory (for a .458) and holds together very well.
17 January 2005, 05:54
BiggestGun
I shot four-hundred 350 X's in my 458 Lott at 2600 fps. I had exceptional accurracy (1/4") groups when I could hold it and as long as the barrel was decoppered. After 100 rds groups opened up to 1.5". On wild hogs they make an impressive hole completely through no matter what angle, even end to end in 350 lb hog. Once the skin was off you could look through the hole and there would be no bloodshot except near any bones that got in the way. The interesting thing was the lack of shock. Six pigs and none dropped on the spot. They didn't go far but each ended up with a second or third hole in it before giving up. All shots through the boiler room though second and third shots originating from the rear. Great practice for getting ready for a Buffalo hunt. Also the 350 gr bullets will give you much less recoil than 500 grs and shoot pretty flat. They are plenty for anything in North America. I would definitely use 500's for Africa and would only take one bullet weight there. Having both and trying to change out the mag from plains game loads to Buff loads cost me a 44" bull.


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