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17 July 2021, 03:11
Gojoe
Stumbled on an 1895 win
Out and about I stumbled on a modern 1895 Winchester in 405. The rifle is 99.9 percent, not a mark and I believe unfire. This is the case hardened version. The former owner is going to look for the box and papers.
Finally I scored a deal, now the quest for ammo begins.


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17 July 2021, 08:36
dpcd
The Miroku 95s are strong and well made rifles. I just wish they had copied the original 405 barrel contour.
17 July 2021, 09:15
crshelton
Congrats on your find.
Once you get the components, the 1895 .405 is easy to load for. Mine has become one of my favorite rifles for big game.



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17 July 2021, 14:52
Gojoe
I do not understand why it was not drilled for a receiver sight?


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17 July 2021, 16:38
arkypete
quote:
Originally posted by Gojoe:
I do not understand why it was not drilled for a receiver sight?

Can't agree more. My 405 95 is at the gun smith getting drilled and tapped for Redfield receiver sight. I went through half a dozen local shops, I called, didn't go in. It seems that having the ability to screw on new grips on a 1911, and/or install a telescopic sight on a pre-drilled receiver qualifies one for the title of 'Gun Smith". Did you know that drilling and tapping a rifle requires and different license then replacing a barrel in a 1911? The 'parts awappers' get real testy when asked what they do that is actually gun smithing.


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22 July 2021, 05:24
whisk(e)y hunter
Nice! Miwall has some ammo in stock - https://miwallcorp.com/hornady...nds-w-free-ammo-can/
22 July 2021, 19:33
dpcd
Not drilled because the originals were not drilled. The ones that were factory drilled took the long Climbin Lyman.
24 July 2021, 05:17
Gojoe
[QUOTE]Originally posted by whisk(e)y hunter:
Nice! Miwall has some ammo in stock - https://miwallcorp.com/hornady...nds-w-free-ammo-can/[/QUOTE

At $159 for a box of 20. They can hold on to it for a while longer. Even gunbroker is cheaper, ouch.


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25 July 2021, 01:20
whisk(e)y hunter
It’s $159 for a case of 2 20 rd boxes, 40 rds total if you read the ad

I’m not affiliated with Miwall, just a customer of theirs. Have found them to have ammo in stock through the shortage and have bought a few boxes of harder to find ammo from them with good service and fast shipping

Prices are what they are for all ammo right now, best of luck in your search
25 July 2021, 06:00
Gojoe
My bad.
And Thank you


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25 July 2021, 06:04
Gojoe
I see where Midway USA has Winchester 1895 rifles in 405 win in their coming soon list. They project August. I'll bet that ammo will soon follow.


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31 July 2021, 06:54
viperidae
quote:
Originally posted by arkypete:
quote:
Originally posted by Gojoe:
I do not understand why it was not drilled for a receiver sight?

Can't agree more. My 405 95 is at the gun smith getting drilled and tapped for Redfield receiver sight. I went through half a dozen local shops, I called, didn't go in. It seems that having the ability to screw on new grips on a 1911, and/or install a telescopic sight on a pre-drilled receiver qualifies one for the title of 'Gun Smith". Did you know that drilling and tapping a rifle requires and different license then replacing a barrel in a 1911? The 'parts awappers' get real testy when asked what they do that is actually gun smithing.


I have also found a severe lack of “old head” creative smiths out there...sad.
02 August 2021, 22:03
Gojoe
I called Hornady this morning to ask about the availability of 405 win brass and cartridges. They said that they are not selling brass to the public as it is needed for production. And they do not plan to manufacture 405 win for at least the next 120 days.


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02 August 2021, 22:30
crshelton
Thank you for the information on Hornadys plans for .405 ammo.


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03 August 2021, 16:15
arkypete
I lucked out when I bought my first mod. 95 a number of years ago. I found 405 Winchester on Ebay, once fired. and some Bertam, new. Designed and ordered a 350 grain GC'd mold from Mountain Molds.
The once fired brass came from proofing / testing the rifles, is my guess. My grandsons will have plenty of brass for their lives once I've departed.


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05 August 2021, 04:33
Gojoe
Woodley 412 300 grain bullets are in at Midway.


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07 August 2021, 02:20
Gojoe
I know what I bought. But what did I buy?
Winchester 1895 in 405 WCF. The serial # is ######TEX95, the receiver is case hardened. The trigger is gold, the rest is a deep blue. And the stock's are checkered. The butt plate is blued steel and there is every reason believe it's unfired. The gun was purchase from an FFL who is liquidating an estate locally. He stated that there are other treasures to be had.
I not unfamiliar with firearms, but I've never purchase any to just be a collects item.
I paid $923, I know it was a bargain for an 1895 blued, but is the case hardened version anything special?
Thanks


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07 August 2021, 06:16
crshelton
I gave my best answer on this question on your post on another forum.


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07 August 2021, 07:30
Gojoe
And I thank you for that.

My digging , if true , there was a fun of 800 rifles in 2004.


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07 August 2021, 12:13
Use Enough Gun
Nice find! I have a Miroku made 1895 in 405 Winchester. tu2
09 September 2021, 21:23
jkingrph
quote:
Originally posted by arkypete:
quote:
Originally posted by Gojoe:
I do not understand why it was not drilled for a receiver sight?

Can't agree more. My 405 95 is at the gun smith getting drilled and tapped for Redfield receiver sight. I went through half a dozen local shops, I called, didn't go in. It seems that having the ability to screw on new grips on a 1911, and/or install a telescopic sight on a pre-drilled receiver qualifies one for the title of 'Gun Smith". Did you know that drilling and tapping a rifle requires and different license then replacing a barrel in a 1911? The 'parts awappers' get real testy when asked what they do that is actually gun smithing.


I had a reproduction Lyman 21 from Providence tool installed on mine. Local gunsmith did a fantastic job on the d/t job, He also fixed a couple of scope bases on a Mexican Mauser sporter I had bought at a gun show, where the holes for a rear base were offset out of line with the front. He actually milled the bases a bit so that they aligned up allowing me to zero the rifle, where I had run out of windeage adjustment. I had thought to weld the holes shut, then drilll and tap new holes, but he wanted to try this first, not a simple parts changer, but thinks things through. Most of his work is now on AR types, and suppressors, but some special projects like this, and he does not take forever.


JJK