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17 December 2012, 00:21
SBT
Are there other Wilbur Smith's Out There?
I've read all of the Wilbur Smith Books and am looking for similar books available on Kindle. Especially like the Courtney series.


"There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark
17 December 2012, 07:17
Norman Conquest
Don't know about kindle but you might check out Bartle Bull's trilogy of "The White Rhino Hotel", "Cafe on the Nile",+ "The Devil's Oasis."
18 December 2012, 00:40
BNagel
No, Wilbur Smith is the only one of his kind.


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18 December 2012, 05:32
billrquimby
quote:
No, Wilbur Smith is the only one of his kind.


I agree!

Bill Quimby
20 December 2012, 08:38
Norman Conquest
So as not to be misunderstood;I do not classify Bartle Bull as a Wilbur Smith contemporary/wannabe,etc. Only that if you appreciate the works of Wilbur Smith then you will probably like the writings of Bartle Bull.Best seasonal greetings to all + HAPPY READING.
20 December 2012, 23:04
SBT
Thanks Norman. Cafe on The Nile was available in a Kindle adition so I bought it.


"There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark
20 December 2012, 23:25
billrquimby
You also make like James Michener's "Covenent." I took it on my first trip to Africa. Not knowing that it was among the books banned by the South African government at the time, I read it openly in Jan Smuts airport and elsewhere. .

Bill Quimby
21 December 2012, 02:57
JBrown
quote:
Originally posted by SBT:
Thanks Norman. Cafe on The Nile was available in a Kindle adition so I bought it.


Hey! Those three are a series and I really think you should read the first one first(White Rhino Hotel, IIRC).

BTW, Bartle Bull and Wilbur Smith are very different writers, but I agree that if you like one you will like the other. I find Bull to be a bit more "deep", while Smith is a bit more "light".

I know there is good analogy to compare the two, but I will have to think on it.


Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________

Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
21 December 2012, 04:48
SBT
I would love to read White Rhino Hotel first, but it is not available in Kindle and the cost on Amazon was rediculous.


"There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark
21 December 2012, 07:45
Norman Conquest
You might check with Edward Hamilton Booksellers in Ct.Be good to get on their sale list anyway. Last ditch attempt you can always try the library.My ex once told me "I'll bet your idea of heaven is a harem of librarians."...What could I say,she was right.
21 December 2012, 09:07
waterrat
Thanks Norman Conquest,,I am looking forward Bull's books as well.


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21 December 2012, 12:42
JBrown
quote:
Originally posted by SBT:
I would love to read White Rhino Hotel first, but it is not available in Kindle and the cost on Amazon was rediculous.


Just let me look, I should have a copy to loan you.

(I would hate to see you ruin a truly great trilogy)


Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________

Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
21 December 2012, 21:18
SBT
The library was a great idea. Sometimes we overlook the obvious. My local library didn't have it, but they ordered it from a neighboring county and will call when it arrives.

Thanks Jason.


"There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark
22 December 2012, 04:14
JBrown
I did find my copy and I will loan it if needed. I also found that Amazon has the paperback version in the "used book" listings for $4 including shipping.


Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________

Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
28 December 2012, 23:47
swaincreek
Guys thanks for the tips. i really enjoy classic hunting books.
29 December 2012, 07:40
Norman Conquest
If you enjoy Bull's trilogy then you might want to check out his other duo series,Shanghai Station + China Star.Story of white Cossacks escaping the Bolshevics in 1917 + setting up in Shanghai.Not really hunting related but good action novels.
29 December 2012, 19:39
Saeed
The last book I read of Wilbur Smith was "Assegai".

And I was very disappointed with it.

It started off well, then it turned into a B-rated love story.

His earlier books were much better.

I take my Kindle with me everywhere, but I have very few fiction books on it.

I enjoy reading books on real life adventure, such African explorarors and exploration, Arctic journeys, Polar journeys, search for the North Wesrt passage. Climbing Everest, K2. Sailing around the world etc.

One can find an endless selection on the Amazon Kindle store.


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30 December 2012, 21:15
SDR
I went to the Amazon site to buy the Bartle Bull series and read a negative report on White Rhino Hotel.
it states:
"If a story featuring gruesome descriptions of African parasites, a white hunter cavorting with young teen prostitutes, and kinky dwarf sex is your cup of tea, then go for it."

I thought hell yeah and bought the whole series.
Thanks for the recommendation.
31 December 2012, 00:55
SBT
yuck


"There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark
31 December 2012, 08:12
Norman Conquest
Just trying to help.
04 January 2013, 06:56
lavaca
I'm in the middle of "West with the Night" by Beryl Markham at the moment. This is an amazing book. I like Wilbur Smith, but frankly, some of his books are a bit too graphic for my tastes.

Beryl was a much better writer. Her book is not nearly as salacious as anything Smith has written, but it is extremely well-written and simply captivating.

If you are inteterested in East Africa during the colonial period -- and frankly even if you are not -- you will love this book. It should be part of the curriculum in 20th Century literature courses (which my children are currently taking).
04 January 2013, 11:10
Norman Conquest
I totally agree. If you are a fan of Beryl Markham,try her second book "The splendid Outcast".Or if new in the genre try the biography,"Straight on till Morning" by Mary S. Lovell .All are' pure 'reading.Personal opinion here,Beryl did the work + Amelia got recognition.I may stand corrected but I doubt it, as she was the first aviatrix to fly the 'pond'.She had to do an emergency landing on one of the islands just before landing stateside.,so her Kudos were off as to record.
09 January 2013, 09:23
lavaca
I have the biography, but haven't started it yet. I've got a case in Milwaukee currently and there is a great used bookstore in the Milwaukee airport -- Renaissance Books. I bought the biography and the proprietor -- who knows me well by now -- suggested I read "West with the Night" first, so I took his advice.
10 January 2013, 04:56
billrquimby
Lavaca and Norman:

You are in good company. Ernest Hemingway agreed with you about Beryl Markham's literary talent. However, as you probably know, there also are those who believe her stuff was written by two of her many lovers.

I've only read her "West With The Night." It was interesting but not something I'd read again. Frankly, I wish she would have included some insights into her flings with famous people.

Bill Quimby
11 January 2013, 08:28
Norman Conquest
Well we know she was doing Blixen..+ who else.By her own admission she enjoyed a tumble w/ the local black lads as a child. I do get your point Bill,as she was a truly beautiful woman with a heart of fire + lived life to the fullest.So yes the celebrities would be an interesting tale indeed.Pity everyone is dead.Hmmm. perhaps it's now the time to write the book. Just kidding.
13 January 2013, 01:42
lavaca
Hadn't heard she did Blix (but then it wouldn't be a surprise -- he pretty much did everybody). Rumour has it she had an affair with Finch-Hatton (and she was Karen's good friend). Sleeping with your best friend's husband and lover just doesn't seem cricket, even in that era Nairobi. I believe the character "Felicity" in the movie "Out of Africa" was intended to depict Beryl.

Had not heard anyone wrote for her. While I don't take her stories at face value (I don't think Dinka morani would take a little girl hunting and I doubt even the most delinquent father would allow it), but the writing is still excellent, whoever penned the words.
15 January 2013, 01:39
SBT
Just finished White Rhino Hotel and I did in fact enjoy it. It was a bit slow to start, but the characters were well developed. However, I could have easily done without the dwarf's sexual escapades.


"There are worse memorials to a life well-lived than a pair of elephant tusks." Robert Ruark
15 January 2013, 10:12
JBrown
I'm glad you enjoyed it. I agree that the dwarf's escapades added little to the story.

quote:
Originally posted by SBT:
However, I could have easily done without the dwarf's sexual escapades.



Jason

"You're not hard-core, unless you live hard-core."
_______________________

Hunting in Africa is an adventure. The number of variables involved preclude the possibility of a perfect hunt. Some problems will arise. How you decide to handle them will determine how much you enjoy your hunt.

Just tell yourself, "it's all part of the adventure." Remember, if Robert Ruark had gotten upset every time problems with Harry
Selby's flat bed truck delayed the safari, Horn of the Hunter would have read like an indictment of Selby. But Ruark rolled with the punches, poured some gin, and enjoyed the adventure.

-Jason Brown
16 May 2013, 01:40
swaincreek
Hey guys, not to bump an old thread , but I bought White Rhino Hotel recently based on reading this forum. Really like the book so far, about 80 pages in to the book. He develops his characters well.

Will probably purchase the other books two in the series.

Thanks for sharing on this forum.
16 May 2013, 02:43
MJines
Are there other Wilbur Smith's out there? Tony Park is pretty darn close. Just finished my third book by Tony. Very entertaining.


Mike
16 May 2013, 03:44
Singleshot03
I have started reading books by Stuart Cloete. I especially enjoyed "The Curve and the Tusk."

I think most of his books where published from the late 30's to early 70's

Cloete
16 May 2013, 08:37
NormanConquest
As I have mentioned before,check out Bartle Bull.


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28 May 2013, 00:58
Hunting For Adventure
Tony Parks and to a lesser extent Deon Meyer. Both good reading about Africa that are close to Wilbur.



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12 June 2013, 13:50
NormanConquest
If you are not totally tied to the African subject matter then I would recommend Bernard Cornwell's "Sharpe's" series.Napoleonic wars/Peninsular campaign,etc. If you ever read one you will be hooked.Check out Amazon. I recommend starting with "Sharpe's Tiger",India 1799 + then follow the tale in sequence but all the books are good.If you start this series you will never look back.


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15 June 2013, 10:38
lavaca
Cornwell's Sharpe series is quite good.
16 June 2013, 21:44
poprivit
I've got both African Dawn and Silent Predator by Tony Park in softcover. I'll let the both go for $15 plus shipping.
07 March 2014, 20:23
swaincreek
Guys, just a note to say thanks for all the recommendations.

I am about 40% thru Wilbur Smith's Monsoon, am really enjoying his writing.

Also read Bartel Bull's White Rhino Hotel and Cafe on the Nile as a result of his forum.

Keep the tips coming.
07 March 2014, 22:09
MJines
Just stick to Smith's older books, his new books are crap.


Mike
08 March 2014, 04:11
juanpozzi
I believe nothing is better than Ruarks UHURU and SOMETHING OF VALUE............


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08 March 2014, 09:50
NormanConquest
Just finished rereading Uhuru 2 days ago. Also just like "Something Of Value",it stopped too soon. I was so ready for the next chapter.As to Wilbur Smith's current works 'crap',I beg to agree + disagree. I really loved the Courtney saga in the early 70's + on. Some of the new stuff does'nt set that well with me but I did like "Assegia". I might also repeat that the trilogy by Bartle Bull; "The White Rhino Hotel, Cafe On The Nile, + The Devils Oasis" are damned fine reading.


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