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Difference between Beretta 686 and 687 ???

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08 March 2003, 00:44
Jiri
Difference between Beretta 686 and 687 ???
Difference between Beretta 686 and 687 ???

What is your opinion on Onyx or Silver Pigeon S with 31/2" chambers ? Just curious. Are there any other good 3 1/2" chambered o/u out there ?

Jiri
08 March 2003, 06:04
Bob257
The 687 has nicer wood. I have a 686 Siver Perdez for sporting clays. Great gun!

Bob257
09 March 2003, 09:06
<zasgar>
The 686 is the entry level gun from Beretta. The next level up ( around $2500 ) is the 687 and 682. The 687 and 682 are virtually identical, with the differency that the 687 is aimed at the hunter and the 682 at the clay shooter.

I have the 682 Gold E for clay shooting and I am very happy with it.

MK
12 March 2003, 04:54
RandyWakeman
686's and 687's share the identical action . . . period. It is all in configuration.

Same with a Browning Citori. There are dozens and dozens of models- same action. Just a matter of what they add to it.
15 March 2003, 00:50
Jiri
Thank you very much all for explanation . . .

My second question is about 3 1/2" chambered over/under . Will 3 1/2" o/u (or any other) shot the same 2 3/4" sheels as 2 3/4" chambered identical one ? I mean "freebore" effect etc. What do you think about this ?
15 March 2003, 04:02
RandyWakeman
Yes, but what is "freebore effect"?
15 March 2003, 05:07
Deerdogs
I have a 687. It is a fantastic gun. I am not sure if freebore has any effect on a shotgun - after all , there is no rifling!
18 March 2003, 00:09
Jiri
I asked about this "possible" freebore effect because I don't understand why most of shotguns is not made with 3 1/2" chambers. So if problem with pressure is not the key (same actions for 2 3/4" chambered and 3 1/2"), what is the key ?

Jiri
25 March 2003, 07:31
<Gunnerdog>
In general, most shotguns are not chambered in 3 1/2 due to the extra length requirement it puts on the action. Although this does not impact an o/u, it does all moving action guns.

It also plays a role in barrel length and in back boring of the barrel and the forcing cone ahead of the choke constriction.

Also, there are a few differences in the 687 and the 686. The 687 has nicer wood and offers the opportunity to have side plates. Also, I believe the 687 action comes in a true 28 gauge receiver, versus a 20 gauge receiver for a 686. However, I am not certain of this...
25 March 2003, 12:38
RandyWakeman
quote:
Originally posted by Jiri:
I asked about this "possible" freebore effect because I don't understand why most of shotguns is not made with 3 1/2" chambers. So if problem with pressure is not the key (same actions for 2 3/4" chambered and 3 1/2"), what is the key ?

Jiri

The "pros" have long felt that the best patterns from a 2-3/4" shell are via a 2-3/4" chamber.

It is rare to see a dedicated trap or skeet gun with anything but.

Perhaps you have read up on forcing cone length / angle? What good could an extra 3/4" of "nothing" do to your shot column?