I bought a 12 ga and a 20 ga model 24 Winchester.They have really gone up.I love the 20 ga I can hit better with it than any other shotgun I have ever had.I sold the 12 ga should not have it was NIB so I knew I didnt want to beat it up.I gotta find a good used one though.I might just get another 20 ga so I have a pair of them.Its the shickest little 20 ga ever made.I bet the 16 ga is awesome bacause its on the 20 ga frame.But I dont want onother ga to get mixed upwith.I already have 10,12s and 20s.And 20s are by far my favorite.