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WTB/WTT: .30 Adolph case and NA.CO cases.

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23 January 2010, 14:32
Lakelander
WTB/WTT: .30 Adolph case and NA.CO cases.
I'm looking for a .30 Adolph case.

Buying or trading.

Possible trades: .25 Newton Special, made from a Peters .405 case, Speer .270 Newton, .270-4000 Niedner, made from a Western .30 Newton, .276 Newton, made from a 9.3x64 Brenneke case.


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07 March 2010, 22:45
Lakelander
Still looking for a .30 Adolph case.


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08 March 2010, 07:56
cal30 1906
Lakelander


Is that not the exact same as a 30 Newton?

Kinda like a .275 Rigby and a 7x57 Mauser,

Correct me if I am wrong, I like correct headstamps myself.


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10 May 2010, 01:13
Lakelander
It's the same as the .30 Newton, but it would be nice to have the .30 Adolph headstamp...

Possible trades are .270 Newton, .25 Newton Special (.405 WCF case), .280 Newton (9.3x64 case), .276 Ackley Newton (.30 Newton case).


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28 June 2010, 09:46
capoward
Actually the 30 Adolph and the 30 Newton cartridge cases are not interchangeable ; the Adolph came in either a rebated rim (30-06 size bolt face size) or in a rim form (basically 404 Jeffery bolt face size) while the Newton came in a single rimless bolt face size comparable to a present day magnum bolt face. However, the cartridge bodies were identical and the Adolph rebated and Newton cases could be dropped fully into either chamber but Adolph bolt would not accommodate the Newton rim diameter and obviously the Adolph rim would not be retained by the Newton bolt face.

Lakelander,
Have you seen the www.newtonarmscompany.com website? I received an email from Larry Wales and checked out the website. Unfortunately they’re basing their Newton cartridge information solely from the traditionally undersize Western cartridge case dimensions...definately not a smart thing to do.


Jim coffee
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01 July 2010, 00:15
Lakelander
Jim,

There are different versions of the .30 Adolph, rimmed, semi-rimmed and rimless. The version with the NA.Co headstamp is a rimless version.

Here is a picture of some Adolph cartridges:




The version with the NA.Co headstamp:



I have seen the website you mention, unfortunately there are quite a few errors.


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01 July 2010, 05:49
capoward
I know Newton produced the 30 Adolph under the N.A.C.O. headstamp but was unaware that it was rimless...figured it was either rimmed or rebated. Thanks...good info.


Jim coffee
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26 July 2010, 13:40
Lakelander
Still looking for a .30 Adolph case, as well as a NA.Co .35 Newton and a NA.Co .30 USG. Also looking doe a .40 Newton case fired in a .40 Newton rifle.

Have trades:

.25 Newton Special
.270 Newton
.270-4000 Niedner
.276 Ackley Newton
.280 Newton.


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12 October 2010, 18:42
Lakelander
Still looking.


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13 February 2011, 22:35
atomiclab
interesting stuff.

I love the Newtons.

I am looking to add to my cartridge collection too.

I don't have the cartridge you are looking for, but I would like to BUY that 280 Newton cartridge if it is available.



and I hope this isn't a dead thread. Im good at finding dead threads.