If you can afford one go for it. After you have shot it for a while and taken a deer let us know how you like it and how accurate it is. BTW if you happen to have a crony let us know what the velocity is in your Ultimate Muzzle Loader with 250grs of powder.

i dont know how to post a link but the web site is ultimatefirearms.com 250 grains of powder! starting at 1400.00$ detriot paper had a story on it in todays paper

I think some States will not allow that type of loading, any one else agree or disagree? Sealed Breech again. www.ultimatefirearms.com

I sure hope you are right. It would be the end of muzzleloading seasons here. Which are endangered enough as it is.

Brent

can you explain the sealed breech. thanks mike it looks like it has a bolt. or is it like the old cap and ball where you had to the submerse the hole barrel to clean.

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The action of this gun is a HOWA action. I uses a primed 45lc casing for the ignition. I have 3 buddies with this gun and it is evil!!!! For muledeer and elk out here, it delivers wicked ballistics.

here in mi. the are using this gun with pyrodex, 250GRains

It's impossible to burn that much pyro. or a BP sub in that length of a barrel, let alone achieve that velocity. They are getting their velocity from a ratio instead of a chrono.

I know guys that have tried to burn alot of pellets while checking the velocities and the speed actually started going down after 3 pellets w/ 3 being alittle on edge.

When you put 5 pellets in a MLer, you are simply firing several pellets along w/ the sabot/bullet (Hence the lower velocity because of the added weight).

Not trying to burst your bubble but, that is very false advertising.

Good Luck!

Reloader

"When you put 5 pellets in a MLer, you are simply firing several pellets along w/ the sabot/bullet (Hence the lower velocity because of the added weight)."

Ohhhhh, but they're so purty when shot at night!

I get max velocity in my 26" barrel remington with 120 grains of Pyrodex and 209 primer.