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Trump became angry. “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a fucking Mexican!” He turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: “Don’t pay it!” Later that day, he was still agitated. “Can you believe it?” he said, according to a witness. “Fucking people, trying to rip me off.”

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Retired General Barry McCaffrey, a decorated Vietnam veteran, told me that Trump does not comprehend such traditional military virtues as honor and self-sacrifice. “The military is a foreign country to him. He doesn’t understand the customs or codes,” McCaffrey said. “It doesn’t penetrate. It starts with the fact that he thinks it’s foolish to do anything that doesn’t directly benefit himself.”

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“Vietnam would have been a waste of time for me. Only suckers went to Vietnam.”

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This week, I asked Kelly about their exchange. He told me that when Trump raised the subject of “German generals,” Kelly responded by asking, “‘Do you mean Bismarck’s generals?’” He went on: “I mean, I knew he didn’t know who Bismarck was, or about the Franco-Prussian War. I said, ‘Do you mean the kaiser’s generals? Surely you can’t mean Hitler’s generals? And he said, ‘Yeah, yeah, Hitler’s generals.’ I explained to him that Rommel had to commit suicide after taking part in a plot against Hitler.” Kelly told me Trump was not acquainted with Rommel.

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Trump’s frustration with American military leaders led him to disparage them regularly. In their book A Very Stable Genius, Carol Leonnig and Philip Rucker, both of The Washington Post, reported that in 2017, during a meeting at the Pentagon, Trump screamed at a group of generals: “I wouldn’t go to war with you people. You’re a bunch of dopes and babies.” And in his book Rage, Bob Woodward reported that Trump complained that “my fucking generals are a bunch of pussies. They care more about their alliances than they do about trade deals.”

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Trump, those who have worked for him say, is unable to understand the military norm that one does not leave fellow soldiers behind on the battlefield. As president, Trump told senior advisers that he didn’t understand why the U.S. government placed such value on finding soldiers missing in action. To him, they could be left behind, because they had performed poorly by getting captured.

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I’ve also previously reported on Trump’s 2017 Memorial Day visit to Arlington National Cemetery. Kelly, who was then the secretary of homeland security, accompanied him. The two men visited Section 60, the 14-acre section that is the burial ground for those killed in America’s most recent wars (and the site of Trump’s Arlington controversy earlier this year). Kelly’s son Robert, a Marine officer killed in 2010 in Afghanistan, is buried in Section 60. Trump, while standing by Robert Kelly’s grave, turned to his father and said, “I don’t get it. What was in it for them?” At first, Kelly believed that Trump was making a reference to the selflessness of America’s all-volunteer force. But later he came to realize that Trump simply does not understand nontransactional life choices. I quoted one of Kelly’s friends, a fellow retired four-star general, who said of Trump, “He can’t fathom the idea of doing something for someone other than himself. He just thinks that anyone who does anything when there’s no direct personal gain to be had is a sucker.”

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Trump called Gallagher a hero and said he didn’t understand why he was being punished.

“Because he slit the throat of a wounded prisoner,” Milley said.

“The guy was going to die anyway,” Trump said.

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One day, in the first year of Trump’s presidency, I had lunch with Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law, in his White House office. I turned the discussion, as soon as I could, to the subject of his father-in-law’s character. I mentioned one of Trump’s recent outbursts and told Kushner that, in my opinion, the president’s behavior was damaging to the country. I cited, as I tend to do, what is in my view Trump’s original sin: his mockery of John McCain’s heroism.

This is where our conversation got strange, and noteworthy. Kushner answered in a way that made it seem as though he agreed with me. “No one can go as low as the president,” he said. “You shouldn’t even try.”

I found this baffling for a moment. But then I understood: Kushner wasn’t insulting his father-in-law. He was paying him a compliment. In Trump’s mind, traditional values—values including those embraced by the armed forces of the United States having to do with honor, self-sacrifice, and integrity—have no merit, no relevance, and no meaning.

These are just excerpts, the entire article should be crammed down MAGAts' throats to show them what a piece of shit they support.

Link

I've come to the conclusion they just don't care what he says. Who and what do they think he is?

It dumfounds me.

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Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
I've come to the conclusion they just don't care what he says. Who and what do they think he is?

It dumfounds me.

Their Putin, which they are stupid enough to think is a good thing.

He “could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and they’d still vote for me!”

That’s really all you need, to comprehend these irrevocably surrendered minds. Honestly, it’s a complete waste of bandwidth try to illustrate their madness to them. They are enthralled by a madman, and are willing to sacrifice the entirety of the western democracies simply to appease him.

Otherwise intelligent people once committed mass murder for Adolf Hitler, others did the same for Pol Pot, some tore infants from their mothers for Nicolai Ceausescu. Others send their money, and even sign over their estates to blatantly obvious charlatans like Kenneth Copeland and other TV evangelists. A large portion of our species is prone to surrendering their reason to a forceful, demanding leader. We’re seeing it in this Trump mania phenomenon.

May God have mercy on our future.

All hearsay. Certainly, you actual or would be lawyers know better. Any videos or transcripts you'd like to enter into evidence?

Has I have said before it is a cult. The interesting thing about cults is that the followers are not usually dumb. Followers come in all shapes, sizes and intellects, from blue collar workers to highly educated professionals. Intelligence does not necessary have anything to do with it. Once a follower truly believes in the leader nothing will change their minds! If you have any interest in studying human behavior, it is fascinating to watch this play out in this election cycle.

Well, there are only about 23 exceptions to Hearsay. In addition, the rule against hearsay does not apply to this situation.

Also, video and audio out of court would still be headset requiring an exception to be met when hearsay applies.

Most court proceedings actually allow hearsay so an exception.

If you were a lawyer, you would know the above.

These out of court statements are not bring offers for truth of the matter asserted in an adverse mail adjudication, hearsay is a red flag.

Likewise, had these been recorded statements, they still would be hearsay when offered as truth of the matter asserted in an adversarial adjudication. Again, since any such recording, like the grab women by the genitalia, would still be hearsay when offering court as tithing the matter asserted to a tribunal setting in adversarial adjudication.

Parole and probation hearing, disposition hearings, allow hearsay as a matter of law.

The above statements actually satisfy at least 2 exceptions to hearsay to be considered by the fact finder if we were at trial. This being 803(1) and 803(2).

Thus, if we were at trial the statements are admissible testimony for purpose of fact finding by a jury or judge setting as fact finder.

Only people to simple to understand political dynamics in America and traditional Americanism throw around the cult term as it applies to conservatives who fight against democrats in executive control.

Along with the just plain nutters and Karens.

When a man calls for suspension of the Constitution. You advocate for that man, you are a cult member.

Mommy, Mommy, Jimmy ate the cookies. As Katie wiped the crumbs from her blouse.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Only people to simple to understand political dynamics in America and traditional Americanism throw around the cult term as it applies to conservatives who fight against democrats in executive control.

Along with the just plain nutters and Karens.

Only cult members vote for seditionist cult leaders.

But not one MAGAt has tried to say that saying any of those things would be "out of character" for the man we all heard say he could "grab 'em by the pussy" because he was famous.

“Seditionist” another favored word of nuts! Thanks for reminding me Mike. And keep carrying the nutter flag!

Nutter vocabulary:
1) fascist
2) seditionist
3) cult

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Originally posted by ledvm:
“Seditionist” another favored word of nuts! Thanks for reminding me Mike. And keep carrying the nutter flag!

It's hardly my fault that you are either too stupid to understand what happened after the last election or that you just don't care.

You're the nut, Lane....and it becomes more and more obvious every day.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Nutter vocabulary:
1) fascist
2) seditionist
3) cult

You meant to say "Vocabulary that describes trump and his supporters"....

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
Nutter vocabulary:
1) fascist
2) seditionist
3) cult

You meant to say "Vocabulary that describes trump and his supporters"....

Two things can be true at the same time

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
“Seditionist” another favored word of nuts! Thanks for reminding me Mike. And keep carrying the nutter flag!

It's hardly my fault that you are either too stupid to understand what happened after the last election or that you just don't care.

You're the nut, Lane....and it becomes more and more obvious every day.

No sir. I am the fabric of America/Texas. You are a liberal nut. I come from a family that settled Texas while you think and vote contraire to the majority of Texans. No sir…I am comfortable in my community who will vote 80% GOP across the board and you chastise them. I am normal…you are the nut.

It is not nuts she. Jan 6 actors are convicted of seditious conspiracy trying to keep Trump in power.

You are not a nut. You know better than the stupidity you advocate. You are just a hack and a lier.

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Originally posted by Bobster:
Mommy, Mommy, Jimmy ate the cookies. As Katie wiped the crumbs from her blouse.

A duly defeated president at the ballot advocating for the Constitution to be suspended and he restored to political power is a mortal sin.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
It is not nuts she. Jan 6 actors are convicted of seditious conspiracy trying to keep Trump in power.

You are not a nut. You know better than the stupidity you advocate. You are just a hack and a lier.

Hmm, what percentage of jan6 people were convicted of Seditious conspiracy? I think it was about 0.5%, is that about right?
Majority of charges were glorified trespassing, right? And only 5 ? 6? People of Seditious conspiracy.. right?

The idiots that rioted at the Capitol get what they get. They are just that — idiots. No seditious conspiracy charges are filed against President Trump.

All people of good common sense see he is the better choice for the USA and certainly the better choice for the state of Texas. All may not like the man. But common sense dictates his policies as superior.

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Originally posted by jeffeosso:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
It is not nuts she. Jan 6 actors are convicted of seditious conspiracy trying to keep Trump in power.

You are not a nut. You know better than the stupidity you advocate. You are just a hack and a lier.

Hmm, what percentage of jan6 people were convicted of Seditious conspiracy? I think it was about 0.5%, is that about right?
Majority of charges were glorified trespassing, right? And only 5 ? 6? People of Seditious conspiracy.. right?

Because they pled to lesser charges in order to avoid trial.

But, you're right. It was just a day of love.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
The idiots that rioted at the Capitol get what they get. They are just that — idiots. No seditious conspiracy charges are filed against President Trump.

All people of good common sense see he is the better choice for the USA and certainly the better choice for the state of Texas. All may not like the man. But common sense dictates his policies as superior.

Seditionists nutjobs like you think he is a better choice.

Yes or no Dr. Easter, the undisputed, adjudicated fact some have been committed of planing and taking affirmative action to engage in sedition on Jan 6?

That is what seditious conspiracy means.

Yes or no, Dr. Easter all were there to disrupt the certification of the EC preventing Trump from losing power?

Yes or no, those people were there because Trump refused to confide the due, fair, and legal election that he lost?

And you are not going to answer the questions again.

I think Americans have just become selfish. They vote for what they perceive will get them more stuff, the hell with other Americans. Trump promises stuff. The rich will get tax breaks, so if you are wealthy and don't give a shit for people that aren't, you will probably vote for Trump.

If you have brought in all the people / family that you want, like Trump brought in Melania and her family, then being selfish, you are ready to slam the door on immigration and Trump says he'll give you that. So you probably will vote for Trump.

You're an old white guy and probably will never personally need an abortion, and have the money to fly your granddaughter or girlfriend to somewhere where she can get help and your friends won't find out about your "problem". So you can appear to be "pro life" and probably vote for Trump and no one will know how you really live your life. MAGA followers are basically born again a-holes.

What is good for America doesn't enter MAGA thinking. That is what they preach of course but everything they claim to be is just a charade. "Christian"? You've got to be kidding.

Donald Trump doesn't care whether America falls apart after he's through stealing, as long as he and his family can steal enough before he goes. That's someone else's problem to clean up his mess. He just want's to be King. Greed and selfishness; MAGA's mantra.

No big deal. Just a little trespassing.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-d...jan-6-attack-capitol

Criminal charges:

Approximately 350 defendants have been charged with assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers or employees, including approximately 110 individuals who have been charged with using a deadly or dangerous weapon or causing serious bodily injury to an officer.
Approximately 140 police officers were assaulted Jan. 6 at the Capitol, including about 80 from the U.S. Capitol Police and about 60 from the Metropolitan Police Department.
Approximately 11 individuals have been arrested on a series of charges that relate to assaulting a member of the media, or destroying their equipment, on Jan. 6.
Approximately 935 defendants have been charged with entering or remaining in a restricted federal building or grounds. Of those, 103 defendants have been charged with entering a restricted area with a dangerous or deadly weapon.
Approximately 61 defendants have been charged with destruction of government property, and approximately 49 defendants have been charged with theft of government property.
More than 310 defendants have been charged with corruptly obstructing, influencing, or impeding an official proceeding, or attempting to do so.
Approximately 55 defendants have been charged with conspiracy, either: (a) conspiracy to obstruct a congressional proceeding, (b) conspiracy to obstruct law enforcement during a civil disorder, (c) conspiracy to injure an officer, or (d) some combination of the three.


Pleas:

Approximately 594 individuals have pleaded guilty to a variety of federal charges, many of whom faced or will face incarceration at sentencing.
Approximately 160 have pleaded guilty to felonies. Another 434 have pleaded guilty to misdemeanors.
A total of 68 of those who have pleaded guilty to felonies have pleaded to federal charges of assaulting law enforcement officers. Approximately 36 additional defendants have pleaded guilty to feloniously obstructing, impeding, or interfering with a law enforcement officer during a civil disorder. Of these 104 defendants, 76 have now been sentenced to prison terms of up to 150 months.
Four of those who have pleaded guilty to felonies have pleaded guilty to the federal charge of seditious conspiracy.
Trials:

98 individuals have been found guilty at contested trials, including 3 who were found guilty in the Superior Court of the District of Columbia. Another 24 individuals have been convicted following an agreed-upon set of facts. 51 of these 122 defendants were found guilty of assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers and/or obstructing officers during a civil disorder, which are felony offenses, including one who has been sentenced to more than 14 years in prison.
Sentencings:

Approximately 561 federal defendants have had their cases adjudicated and received sentences for their criminal activity on Jan. 6. Approximately 335 have been sentenced to periods of incarceration. Approximately 119 defendants have been sentenced to a period of home detention, including approximately 19 who also were sentenced to a period of incarceration.

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Originally posted by ledvm:
The idiots that rioted at the Capitol get what they get. They are just that — idiots. No seditious conspiracy charges are filed against President Trump.

All people of good common sense see he is the better choice for the USA and certainly the better choice for the state of Texas. All may not like the man. But common sense dictates his policies as superior.

The level of hypocrisy is just astonishing. These are your people that support your candidate who did what your candidate asked them to do: try to overturn the result of a general election.

You're on Pluto. Total whackadoodle.

Nope, you’re the party of tampons in boys restrooms.

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Originally posted by tomahawker:
Nope, you’re the party of tampons in boys restrooms.

And, you're the party that supports a seditionist who refuses to accept the result of a presidential election.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by ledvm:
The idiots that rioted at the Capitol get what they get. They are just that — idiots. No seditious conspiracy charges are filed against President Trump.

All people of good common sense see he is the better choice for the USA and certainly the better choice for the state of Texas. All may not like the man. But common sense dictates his policies as superior.

The level of hypocrisy is just astonishing. These are your people that support your candidate who did what your candidate asked them to do: try to overturn the result of a general election.

You're on Pluto. Total whackadoodle.

Who Trump says he will Pardon.

"Christian"? You've got to be kidding.

I've been saying this forever. The ultimate hypocrisy is to call yourself a Christian while supporting trump. It doesn't work.