Once again, he's embarrassed us Americans.

Good. Let him use his dumbass weapon. Give Canada another reason to phase out the United States from their trade. We have the dumbest leader ever. What a fucking moron.

That son of a bitch has been a murderous war criminal since at least 1982, and very possibly earlier.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...and_Shatila_massacre

. . . the more the Trump monkey dances on the end of the Netanyahu organ grinder's chain, the more I wonder just what Mossad has based on Trump's relationship with Epstein.

I'm a little torn on this. On one hand, I am reluctant to agree with anything Mark Carney does or says. On the other, the recognition of Palestine is probably the right thing to do. Israel has, for the sixty years I've been paying any attention at all, been awfully willing to employ Nazi-inspired tactics against the Palestinians. While the Israeli response to the Hamas attacks was both understandable and acceptable, they have gone well beyond that now. Bill

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I'm a little torn on this. On one hand, I am reluctant to agree with anything Mark Carney does or says. On the other, the recognition of Palestine is probably the right thing to do. Israel has, for the sixty years I've been paying any attention at all, been awfully willing to employ Nazi-inspired tactics against the Palestinians. While the Israeli response to the Hamas attacks was both understandable and acceptable, they have gone well beyond that now. Bill

We should be asking WHY did Hamas do what they did?

I don’t like violence in any shape or form.

It the Nazis occupying Palestine have been at it from day one.

Very sad to see THE IRANGE TURN being a puppet to NitanHitler!

Nothing justifies what Hamas did. Hamas discuss they did to attack and destroy Israel and its people. Probably, at the behest of Iran.

What Hamas did does not justify what Israel is doing now.

I have no issue w nation-states moving to recognize Palestine as a consequence of Israel’s actions.

If I were a President or high state department official, my position would be to provide Hamas w a certain set of presenters publicly, a charter of you will. When those presenters were met, the charter would call for the recognition of statehood. The charter would also recombine the boundaries of that state.

I hope Carney tells the orange shit-gibbon to shove it up his ass.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing justifies what Hamas did. Hamas discuss they did to attack and destroy Israel and its people. Probably, at the behest of Iran.

What Hamas did does not justify what Israel is doing now.

I have no issue w nation-states moving to recognize Palestine as a consequence of Israel’s actions.

If I were a President or high state department official, my position would be to provide Hamas w a certain set of presenters publicly, a charter of you will. When those presenters were met, the charter would call for the recognition of statehood. The charter would also recombine the boundaries of that state.

Why did you fight Nazi Germany??

Would you just bend over and say thank you to illegal invaders being brought into the country to take over your homes?

Killing hundreds of thousands of your people in the process??

The 22 member Arab League, including Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Egypt have called on Hamas to disarm and relinquish power in Gaza.

I think this should tell you that most thinking folks believe the solution to this problem starts with getting rid of Hamas.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/30...mas-gaza-israel-intl

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing justifies what Hamas did. Hamas discuss they did to attack and destroy Israel and its people. Probably, at the behest of Iran.

What Hamas did does not justify what Israel is doing now.

I have no issue w nation-states moving to recognize Palestine as a consequence of Israel’s actions.

If I were a President or high state department official, my position would be to provide Hamas w a certain set of presenters publicly, a charter of you will. When those presenters were met, the charter would call for the recognition of statehood. The charter would also recombine the boundaries of that state.

Why did you fight Nazi Germany??

Would you just bend over and say thank you to illegal invaders being brought into the country to take over your homes?

Killing hundreds of thousands of your people in the process??

Since, that was addressed to me, I’ll respond.

What makes a nation, state. International recognition. Israel has that snd has won it on the battlefield multiple times.

The U.S. fought Nazis Germany to redress the destruction of the balance of power in Europe.

It did not help Germany, the Nazis regime declared war on the U.S. first.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing justifies what Hamas did. Hamas discuss they did to attack and destroy Israel and its people. Probably, at the behest of Iran.

What Hamas did does not justify what Israel is doing now.

I have no issue w nation-states moving to recognize Palestine as a consequence of Israel’s actions.

If I were a President or high state department official, my position would be to provide Hamas w a certain set of presenters publicly, a charter of you will. When those presenters were met, the charter would call for the recognition of statehood. The charter would also recombine the boundaries of that state.

Why did you fight Nazi Germany??

Would you just bend over and say thank you to illegal invaders being brought into the country to take over your homes?

Killing hundreds of thousands of your people in the process??

Since, that was addressed to me, I’ll respond.

What makes a nation, state. International recognition. Israel has that snd has won it on the battlefield multiple times.

The U.S. fought Nazis Germany to redress the destruction of the balance of power in Europe.

It did not help Germany, the Nazis regime declared war on the U.S. first.

You mean if Hitler did not declare war on you, you would have stood by and left him to eliminate the Jews??

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing justifies what Hamas did. Hamas discuss they did to attack and destroy Israel and its people. Probably, at the behest of Iran.

What Hamas did does not justify what Israel is doing now.

I have no issue w nation-states moving to recognize Palestine as a consequence of Israel’s actions.

If I were a President or high state department official, my position would be to provide Hamas w a certain set of presenters publicly, a charter of you will. When those presenters were met, the charter would call for the recognition of statehood. The charter would also recombine the boundaries of that state.

Why did you fight Nazi Germany??

Would you just bend over and say thank you to illegal invaders being brought into the country to take over your homes?

Killing hundreds of thousands of your people in the process??

Since, that was addressed to me, I’ll respond.

What makes a nation, state. International recognition. Israel has that snd has won it on the battlefield multiple times.

The U.S. fought Nazis Germany to redress the destruction of the balance of power in Europe.

It did not help Germany, the Nazis regime declared war on the U.S. first.

You mean if Hitler did not declare war on you, you would have stood by and left him to eliminate the Jews??

The US was aware that Hitler was engaged in the genocide of the Jews before we entered WW2. And, we didn't enter WW2 because Hitler declared war on us. We entered WW2 because the Japanese attacked us.

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Originally posted by LHeym500:

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Originally posted by Saeed:

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Originally posted by LHeym500:
Nothing justifies what Hamas did. Hamas discuss they did to attack and destroy Israel and its people. Probably, at the behest of Iran.

What Hamas did does not justify what Israel is doing now.

I have no issue w nation-states moving to recognize Palestine as a consequence of Israel’s actions.

If I were a President or high state department official, my position would be to provide Hamas w a certain set of presenters publicly, a charter of you will. When those presenters were met, the charter would call for the recognition of statehood. The charter would also recombine the boundaries of that state.

Why did you fight Nazi Germany??

Would you just bend over and say thank you to illegal invaders being brought into the country to take over your homes?

Killing hundreds of thousands of your people in the process??

Since, that was addressed to me, I’ll respond.

What makes a nation, state. International recognition. Israel has that snd has won it on the battlefield multiple times.

The U.S. fought Nazis Germany to redress the destruction of the balance of power in Europe.

It did not help Germany, the Nazis regime declared war on the U.S. first.

You mean if Hitler did not declare war on you, you would have stood by and left him to eliminate the Jews??

well look up the number of jews accepted from europe in usa: 21 000 during wwii ... so the interests of usa in the day was not the jews question of europe ...

Most likely, barring some horrible event in the North Sea.

There was a major peace movement in the US.


Japan by attacking the U.S. sealed their death warrant. Nazis Germany was already dying when war on the U.S. was declared. The U.S. entry blunted Russia expansion west.

Just like Israel’s actions have made them more internationally isolated, less secure, and less safe.

I support Israel’s right to exist.

I support Israel’s right to defend themselves.

I do not support Israel’s expansion.

I do not support Israel’s current Regime.

I do not support Israel’s current war conduct.

I do not support From the Sea for either entity.

I do lot support the removal of Palestinians as a group from Gaza.

I do not support the destruction of the Israeli nation, state.

I do support Palestine having a U.S. recognized state upon Palestine achieving certain marks, and Israel being forced, incentivized to accept that.

I would probably vote to end arms to Israel given the current situation.

The U.S. did not and would not have went to war to stop the Holocaust. Thst was a very good secondary event.

and he did +35% on products that are not part of the products that the legal supreme negotiated in the last term ...

needless to say those costs will be passed on the final buyers in usa ...

but it will be still a win for usa and maga ... cant wait to follow the news of recession that will affect of course canada but mostly usa ...