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Yes, some on the right are unhappy with the newly elected Pope Leo XIV, particularly because of his perceived progressive stances on issues like immigration and his potential to challenge the current administration. Some prominent figures, like Steve Bannon, have expressed concerns that Pope Leo may not align with an "America First" ideology and that he will be a source of friction with the current president.

Here's a more detailed look at the reasons for the unhappiness:

Concerns about immigration:
Some on the right are concerned that Pope Leo's views on immigration may not align with the current administration's policies. The Guardian reported that Pope Leo's brother mentioned the pope's concerns about US immigration policy.

Perception of a challenge to the administration:
Some on the right see Pope Leo as a potential challenge to the current administration's policies and values, particularly regarding immigration and other social issues.

Criticism of past statements:
Some on the right have pointed to past statements made by Pope Leo, particularly those criticizing specific politicians, as evidence that he may be anti-Trump and anti-MAGA.

Comparison to Pope Francis:
Some on the right have compared Pope Leo to Pope Francis, who is also seen as progressive on certain issues, and expressed concerns that Pope Leo may follow a similar path, The Guardian reported.

Another similar AI overview:

Yes, many on the right are unhappy with the newly elected Pope Leo XIV (formerly Cardinal Robert Prevost) due to his perceived ideological alignment with Pope Francis and his past statements on immigration and other issues. Some, particularly Trump supporters, express concerns that Pope Leo will not align with their "America First" agenda and may pose a challenge to the president's policies.

Here's a more detailed look:

Ideological Alignment:
Pope Leo's brother, John Prevost, has stated that Pope Leo is close to Pope Francis ideologically, suggesting a progressive approach similar to his predecessor.

Immigration Concerns:
The Guardian reports that Pope Leo, like Pope Francis, is concerned about immigration and is not expected to remain silent on the issue.

Criticism from the Right:
Some prominent figures on the right, including Steve Bannon and Laura Loomer, have criticized Pope Leo's election, viewing him as anti-Trump, anti-MAGA, and potentially a challenge to the president's policies, reports the BBC and a NYT article.

Trump's Initial Response:
While Trump initially expressed pride in having the first American Pope, his most ardent supporters have been more critical of the election.

Concerns about "America First":
Some on the right fear that Pope Leo's perceived progressive stance will undermine the "America First" agenda, especially on immigration

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2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

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WOKE and Pope rhyme.

What a coincidence! Wink

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...037e63507e046c&ei=69

Is Pope Leo XIV a 'WOKE MARXIST POPE'? He is if you're a Trump supporter. | Opinion
Opinion by Rex Huppke, USA TODAY • 11h • 4 min read


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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saw something that said he voted, in the past, in GOP primaries ---

but, frankly, i don't care -- he's a world leader, and a religious leader, and will be judged by his actions -- the last pope was pretty cool - this guy seems more conservative, for a pope, but not like a radical either way --

doesn't really affect me in any meaningful way, one way or the other --

cut the guy some slack


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cut the guy some slack



You're right.

The Pope ain't the problem.


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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Another leader of a superstitious cult irrelevant to most of us. Big Grin


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I don't think you can categorize somebody viewed as the religious leader of 1.4 billion people as being irrelevant.

And, yes to the OP....I think the selection was a straight-up "screw you" to trump and MAGA from the Catholic leadership.



 
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And, yes to the OP....I think the selection was a straight-up "screw you" to trump and MAGA from the Catholic leadership.


I had to think about that a little while. I figured it was coincidental, not intentional.

But I think you are correct. And others agree with you.

https://youtu.be/gqjZnOHhEu0?si=p7aKlNpF4hSfpt8h

Brooks and Capehart on Pope Leo XIV's potential impact on U.S. culture and politics

The Public Broadcasting Service (PBS)


https://youtu.be/QyBhuzM2js8?s...N19ERgrhZCLCk0&t=123

I skipped past the intro

Trump And The New Pope Are On A Collision Course. Here's Why...

The new Pope has directly challenged senior members of the Trump administration before and in this video I explain why and also why it's almost certain to happen again, but now with a lot more impact.


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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The difference between this pope and previous popes is, this one is expected to kiss POTUS ring instead of the other way around.
 
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If they aren't yet, they will be...


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Is the Pope in favor of abortion on demand?

Is the Pope in favor of the alphabet agenda, gay marriage, chemical and physical castration of children, state control of intra-family relationships and education, etc.

Those issues, if he doesn’t embrace the entire woke agenda, could quickly cause his removal from being the new darling of the Democrats and make him a just another homophobic racist.


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Is the Pope in favor of abortion on demand?

Is the Pope in favor of the alphabet agenda, gay marriage, chemical and physical castration of children, state control of intra-family relationships and education, etc.

Those issues, if he doesn’t embrace the entire woke agenda, could quickly cause his removal from being the new darling of the Democrats and make him a just another homophobic racist.


Pretty sure the Pope's views on all those issues, both real and those existing only in your fevered imagination, are well-known. Try something else.



 
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"Airf Force One"is the ID of the aircraft the president happens to be flying. It could be ANY aircraft. My concern is if the subject aircraft has all the bells, whistles and defense capabilities of the current plane(s) used for presidential travel
 
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Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
"Airf Force One"is the ID of the aircraft the president happens to be flying. It could be ANY aircraft. My concern is if the subject aircraft has all the bells, whistles and defense capabilities of the current plane(s) used for presidential travel


Way to go, dumbass.
 
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If they think the pope is a "woke" liberal, wait till they find about Jesus.
 
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Is the Pope in favor of the alphabet agenda, gay marriage, chemical and physical castration of children, state control of intra-family relationships and education, etc.



Pure rhetoric, Judge. I don't know what you mean by the "alphabet agenda," but the Pope's position on gay marriage--and yours--are irrelevant in the US in view of the Supreme Court's ruling that gay marriage is a Constitutional right.

Children are not being castrated. Please cite a source for this; provide a "receipt" as Steve A. says (incorrectly) he always provides. Should be easy--Fox News and its ilk would trumpet such an event.

As for state control of intra-family relationships, are you talking about cases of abuse? Divorce? The states have long controlled both.
 
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How could anyone be stupid enough to think that the head of the Catholic Church, whose doctrine is about as far from MAGA as it could get, would be a Trump ally?
 
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Lord God, help us to remember those who tonight will go to sleep unfed and unwelcome,
strangers in foreign lands, people who have fled for their lives and are far from their homes.

We lift up to you those who are escaping persecution and conflict, having fled death, torture or ruthless exploitation.

So many carry wounds, mental and physical. So many have suffered greatly.

Lord Jesus, give us more of your compassion for their plight, soften our hearts to their situation,
and help us follow your lead in seeking justice and mercy on their behalf.

We pray for an end to the wars, poverty and human rights abuses that drive desperate people to become refugees in the first place.

We give thanks for people working in troubled countries and ask for more of
your blessing so we can bring life, dignity and hope to those that remain.

We thank you that you are Lord of all the earth and all its people are loved by you.

We pray these things in the name of your Son who was himself born into the troubled life of a refugee.

- Catholic prayer. https://www.xavier.edu/jesuitr...0the%20first%20place.
 
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If they think the pope is a "woke" liberal, wait till they find about Jesus.


Okay, that was funny.
 
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Originally posted by wymple:
If they think the pope is a "woke" liberal, wait till they find about Jesus.


Okay, that was funny.


And ironic


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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Doubly ironic, since the few here it applies to won't get it.
 
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There is much in scripture....words of Jesus.....you don't work, you dont eat!Jesus was NOT a socialist! How could he be! He was perfect!
 
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Originally posted by Duane Wiebe (CG&R):
"Airf Force One"is the ID of the aircraft the president happens to be flying. It could be ANY aircraft. My concern is if the subject aircraft has all the bells, whistles and defense capabilities of the current plane(s) used for presidential travel


 
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There is much in scripture....words of Jesus.....you don't work, you dont eat!Jesus was NOT a socialist! How could he be! He was perfect!


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“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

“When the rich rob the poor, it's called business ... When the poor fight back, it's called violence.” - Mark Twain

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


 
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