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Originally posted by LHeym500:
No, in the legal sense it was not legitimate.
I guess I see your view as revisionist history.

Both used illegal force upon the state to obtain power.
Hitler? Sort of. The beer hall putsch, where he tried to have an insurrection failed horribly. He revised his methodology at that point. Mussolini won election. Tojo won election.

There is no debate. The situation is not equivalent.
Equivelent to what? I would agree that the events on 1/6 were kind of like the Beer hall putsch.

Jan 6 is an example of the same illegal force Hitler and Mussolini used to gain control of the state.
Force? On 1/6? There was some chatter about wanting to use force on 1/6, but to the best of my knowledge, the only (manufactured) weapons used were by the government. The Nazis used rifles and pistols in the failed beer hall putsch.

When you use illegal means under German and Italian law to gain political power. The regimes are illegitimate.
Can you quote the illegal means under German law when Hitler became Chancellor?

There is nothing here to argue.

Hence, you continue to. That makes you a fool.
How about you are making assumptions based on a vague recollection of the timeline of Fascist coming to power?

When you disband civil law by force to rule by fiat; yes.
Exactly. That happened AFTER they attained initial power.

When you purposely burn down the legislature and blame it on a scapegoat to gain power; yes.
Hitler was ALREADY chancellor when the Reichstag burned. He used it to gain further control... he already had the Chancellry.

When you have the Minister of Justice set aside Court rulings to kill political opponents; yes.
That happened after Kristallnacht. Well after Hitler gained power.

Please stop. You are too intelligent to act this stupid.
Thanks for the backwards complement. I think you are making some assumptions.

Nazis never won a majority of elections until political parties were banned.
Germany was a parliamentary system. They were the single largest group in their coalition.

Nazis were a minority party and loosing elections.
The Nazis were not a majority party, but they were gaining, thus all the shenanigans that the more central parties were doing to get them in.

I know Dr. Easter would like to ban opposition parties.

I think that is a pretty big assumption. I would think he is more likely to want the Democrats to return to being the Democrat party of his youth... but he's here. He can tell you if he is for one party rule.

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The Nazi party was a very scary thing, as were the communists at the time. They were gaining power and votes, and once they gained power, they changed the rules to ensure they kept it. To

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Originally posted by JTEX:

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The Nazi party was a very scary thing, as were the communists at the time. They were gaining power and votes, and once they gained power, they changed the rules to ensure they kept it. To

Sounds like what democrats did in 2020 and are doing now....

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Lets be honest....

Trump was trying as well.

Its the nature of political power.