quote:

Originally posted by Hasher:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
Jeffe,
Would care to comment on your "facts" being more like "Alternative Facts" rather than actual facts? Maybe you could acknowledge that the right took part in political violence during the Floyd riots as well as the left? I posted several links documenting right wing violence, yet you seem unwilling or unable to respond.

And through the looking glass we go.

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
100% of American adults should be voting against Trump for Jan 6 insurrection crimes.

I don't really have nothing on that - if a court finds him guilty on 6th crimes, he deserves to be punished

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by Hasher:

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
Jeffe,
Would care to comment on your "facts" being more like "Alternative Facts" rather than actual facts? Maybe you could acknowledge that the right took part in political violence during the Floyd riots as well as the left? I posted several links documenting right wing violence, yet you seem unwilling or unable to respond.

And through the looking glass we go.

What, huh? Oh, sorry Stevie, you are usually on my ignore list.

Did righty fringe groups committ violence sometime into the past? Sure man, in so e limited, had to be sleuthed out, during the lefty riots there are reports of righty violence. That make you feel better?

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

quote:

oh, you mean like the republican concept of if you do the crime you do the crime?

Except when it comes to their Great Leader, who alas is a victim of "lawfare."

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

quote:

oh, you mean like the republican concept of if you do the crime you do the crime?

Except when it comes to their Great Leader, who alas is a victim of "lawfare."

Yes, there are zealots, on both sides, that don't want their "dear leaders" to pay the price

quote:

Originally posted by Hasher:
jeffe


The last time I saw someone dissected that thoroughly it involved a surgeon.


But fear not, as no learning will occur.

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

quote:

oh, you mean like the republican concept of if you do the crime you do the crime?

Except when it comes to their Great Leader, who alas is a victim of "lawfare."

Yes, there are zealots, on both sides, that don't want their "dear leaders" to pay the price

I do not see anyone calling Sen. Menendez’s conviction weaponizing the DOJ, lawfare, America being an expletive hole country, judge and jury rigged.

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Oh, sorry Stevie, you are usually on my ignore list.

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by LHeym500:

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:

quote:

oh, you mean like the republican concept of if you do the crime you do the crime?

Except when it comes to their Great Leader, who alas is a victim of "lawfare."

Yes, there are zealots, on both sides, that don't want their "dear leaders" to pay the price

I do not see anyone calling Sen. Menendez’s conviction weaponizing the DOJ, lawfare, America being an expletive hole country, judge and jury rigged.

and all that Jamaal Bowman "got" was a censure - even though he knowingly (come on, he was a school principal, he knows what a fire alarm is) pulled a firearm, disrupting official government proceedings, which was the damning charge for the j6 idiots, but hasn't been charged with the same -

Joshua, you, in your own practice, know that politics plays a large part in the "protected" peoples journey through the legal system

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Naki,
What is it about Americans that you HATE, and I mean irrationally hate, roughly 1/2 of the population? I mean, i might could see it if you spent years here, researching and verifying your facts, and either published for peer review* or turned over to a prosecutor - *you are about to be peered reviewed below - I mean, you straight out HATE ~1/2 of americans, so is that an emotive response? who hurt you?

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE.

1. Republicans have one major ideology - "Win at all costs, principles be damned." Major ideologies such as conservatism, evangelicals, White nationalists, Rural culturalists (like our Lane who is also an evangelical conservative and a white nationalist), anti abortion (evangelicals) are the core.

well, buckle up - 1 your said ONE major ideology and then said "major ideologies" and the irony of you mixing ONE and SEVERAL in the first part of your sentence is, well, pretty darn funny - THEN you list stuff, without sources, and I know you aren't living in the states, talking to people, so YOUR made-up facts are just that.. yours, and, you are combining several different ideologies (YOUR WORDS) in a single front. THEN you use the word "evangelicals" as if they are the majority here - they aren't - the majority is protestant, but evangelical has a specific meaning, and you have ZERO way of knowing who's what religion and then what sect of that religion - you are right, a majority of republicans are prolife, but you'd likely lump me into one of these groups, and I am most certainly not "evangelical" and I am FIRMLY pro-choice. Lane isn't, which is cool, and as neither of us i like to become pregnant, no matter what progressives say, it's not really relevant. that later phrase could be repeated several to many times in this post. Lastly, you seem to think that only and all evangelicals are GOP - nothing could be further from the truth -

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

2. The Republicans also have a cultural identity that unites them.

ah, nope, in fact, you, yourself, listed several items. Elon Musk, for a far example, has, other than basic biology, nothing in common with a working stiff catholic in the deep NE. When I id'd as a republican, we didn't have little get togethers, spreading the words of Lincoln

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

They hate liberals, LGBT, blacks and minorities,

Odd you say that -- Who voted OVERWHELMINGLY for the civil rights act of 1964? Who had to be dragging, kicking and screaming, for it? Who pushed through the women's suffrage act, who DIED to protect unknown-to-them minorities in the the 60s? Who voted FOR the equal rights amendment, at the time? the answer is firmly republicans

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Idolising history of the Southern confederacy,

nah, bruh, that's a rural south thing, regardless of party

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Rural culturalists as mentioned above

hmm, weird, it's almost like you made this up - 83% of americans like in urban areas .. the "fly over" states aren't all rural and rural counties are sparsely populated - and those do vote mixed bag - you might actually try this word of for size "RESEARCH"

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

3. The Republicans also have a blind belief without any rational foundation on "individual freedom"

literally in the constitution - like literally -- you know, talking about a 3rd party country from your own experience might not be your game.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
that has no reference to personal responsibility

oh, you mean like the republican concept of if you do the crime you do the crime?

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
to the country and every single citizen

in america, the average citizen has ZERO duty to "every single citizen", again, see my comment about 3rd county - i certainly have ZERO duty to a county jail prisoner in another state, and i have ERO duty to support anyone outside of whom i decide to support -- perhaps you have us confused with.. well, i don't know where every citizen has a duty to every citizen.. I guess in naki-landia

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
. Tribalism is the heart and soul of the Republicans

WEIRD< dude, it's like you keep making stuff up, and then self contradict in the next breath - Is it late there? do you need some tea to clear your head? republicans don't brag about appointing a person based on physical or family conditions, they brag about hiring the best.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

4. The Republicans have been pushing hard to the right for a very long time.

hmm, not so much - the left has moved so far left that it APPEARS that respecting the life of an unborn or being proud to be an american looks "far right" .. but you aren't an american, in any way, now, are you?

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
KKK members were prominent

founded by dems, ran by dems, and had millions of members when dems --

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter: (under the Democratic label - before the parties swapped ideologies)

the parties NEVER swapped ideologies - and if you affirm that to be truth, give me a DATE when it happened.. heck, even a year when it was done-- even the professor that came up with this concept REFUSED to give me a date that it was done, or largely done, and blocked me when i asked "what date was that largely done within" - and, since we are on the KKK, it went from MILLIONS of members under dem control, to a few pathetic remnants when it allegedly (i use David Duke as the line) became "republican" and even FURTHER, when you come up with your "date" of the great party switch, then your are then asserting that every president prior to that date was actually the other party -- was it grant? one of the Roosevelts, kennedy? reagan? Obama? pick a date and own the consequences

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
. In more recent times, since Carl Rove,

oh, how cute, carl rove is your boogeyman --

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
they have really been pushing to the far Right

but you just said they have been pushing right for a very long time, in line item 4 above.. please stick with a single narrative, sir, it will make you seem like you know what you are talking about

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
and normalising the views and behaviour of people such as Bannon, Proud Boys and similar groups,

uhm, old son, you understand these people aren't NORMALIZED, but the left sure seems to be having a field day, with riots, Antifa, and BLM .. but, sure, do continue, let's not let logic and facts get in the way of your story

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
MGT, Bobert, Matt Getz, Jordan, ted Cruz and many more.

oh, you are confusing tea party response with the majority of republicans.. i guess it's easy to get lost in the blur for 7,000 miles away

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
5. The biggest and new ideology is TRUMPISM and the MAGA cult

i know a few people, left and right, and only a very few "embrace" trump, and fewer still will hold that thought when pressed on details. The are called reluctant republicans, who can't, by their morals, vote for the current dems. My mother in law, for example, has ALWAYS voted dem, until it became progressive, then she refused to vote until she died. I am concerned that she's now voting straight dem ticket from the graveyard district

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:


If loyalty to the constitution was the criterion,

most americans are only passingly aware of the details of the constitution, and fewer are voting based on those lofty concepts, they are voting for what they see as their future-- oh, i am certain that there are some zealots that wind up making a forced choice as to which candidate violates the voters concept of the constitution, but those are pretty vanishingly small .. see 2 party system. VERY few 3rd party candidates, since 1960, have earned enough votes, even in the polls, to participate in presidential debates, and only one even had a material impact on the outcome - h ross perot.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
100% of American adults should be voting against Trump for Jan 6 insurrection crimes.

I don't really have nothing on that - if a court finds him guilty on 6th crimes, he deserves to be punished

whew, that took longer than i really wanted to invest in that -- i think i'll go make dinner for my family

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Well, Let me respond as politely as possible to this childish and immature diatribe.

First of all, I do not believe in hate. I have strong views that are non-negotiable and fundamentally based on my EVANGELICAL values and scripture. I also have strong views based on cultural and historical experiences derived from my Indian heritage.

While I do not believe in HATE, I do detest, despise, dislike, abhor, despise, loathe, abominate, execrate, reject, repudiate the fundamental principles of Right wing ideology and politics. Let explain further as you obviously not been reading or understanding what I have posted for over a decade here in this forum.

I am repulsed by colonialism, post colonialism and all its vestiges that continue to be perpetrated by Right wing ideology. This includes the criminal oligarchy of the Right and in particular the US, the institutional racism practiced and preached by the GOP and its supporters, the anti democratic anti-freedom ideology enshrined in Right wing ideology and the basic disregard of human rights and the principle that all humans GLOBALLY are equal and have equal unalienable rights. BTW, All these repulsive traits are contrary the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Most of the so called Evangelicals are cultural Christians and not spiritual practitioners of the teachings of Jesus. I include people like Lane in this category. 95% of evangelicals are GOP supporters. This is part of US stats.

The real problem is NOT the 50% that you refer to. It is the top 0.1% criminal oligarchs and probably a fringe 5% alt right extremists. I also denounce the far left which actually does not exist in the US. I am referring to the global context and not to the myopic rural village in West Texas & Oklahoma. The remaining 44% are just sheep who follow blindly because they are indoctrinated by Culture.

Ok smart ass, just let me replace the first "Major" with "Primary". Are you going to pick every punctuation and spelling? That explains why you cannot understand the basic principles and the ethics that I debate on for over a decade.

You are so one eyed. You are referring to the 60s but not to the Dixi Democrats and how the civil Rights movement. The Democratic party "Lost the South for 50 years". You conveniently forget that Lincoln's Republicans were the Liberals and not the pro slavery conservatives. You conveniently disregard or deny that the two parties switched platforms.

Do republicans really believe that "if you do the crime then you do the time"? I do not see a single Republican apply this principle to Trump and his many crimes or to Bannon or Matt Gatz etc.

Again KKK was founded by the OLD Democrats and then the parties switched platforms. How convenient that you ignore this historical fact. Which party's supporter fly the Confederate flag in the last 50 years? Which party still kept building monuments for the confederates right through the 60s into the early 2000s? Do you think people are stupid to fall for your lies and deflections?

I have been to the US more than once and had the right to live and work there. Now I doubt that you have seen much of the great world with 8 Billion people. Most Americans irrespective of party have a very myopic world view. American jingoism and ignorance is well documented. Every "World series" or similar title is restricted to minuscule number of people.

Your understanding of the "Left" is laughable. Obama, Biden, Harris etc are far Right compared to Rishi Sunak, Macron, Angela Merkel etc. Bernie Sanders and the Squad might fit in with the Liberal Democrats of Europe. That is very moderate.

Fundamental human rights should never be trampled upon. The US has a long history of doing that and the GOP is its leader in that crime. Trump is its face right now.

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:
Naki,
What is it about Americans that you HATE, and I mean irrationally hate, roughly 1/2 of the population? I mean, i might could see it if you spent years here, researching and verifying your facts, and either published for peer review* or turned over to a prosecutor - *you are about to be peered reviewed below - I mean, you straight out HATE ~1/2 of americans, so is that an emotive response? who hurt you?

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY UNTRUE.

1. Republicans have one major ideology - "Win at all costs, principles be damned." Major ideologies such as conservatism, evangelicals, White nationalists, Rural culturalists (like our Lane who is also an evangelical conservative and a white nationalist), anti abortion (evangelicals) are the core.

well, buckle up - 1 your said ONE major ideology and then said "major ideologies" and the irony of you mixing ONE and SEVERAL in the first part of your sentence is, well, pretty darn funny - THEN you list stuff, without sources, and I know you aren't living in the states, talking to people, so YOUR made-up facts are just that.. yours, and, you are combining several different ideologies (YOUR WORDS) in a single front. THEN you use the word "evangelicals" as if they are the majority here - they aren't - the majority is protestant, but evangelical has a specific meaning, and you have ZERO way of knowing who's what religion and then what sect of that religion - you are right, a majority of republicans are prolife, but you'd likely lump me into one of these groups, and I am most certainly not "evangelical" and I am FIRMLY pro-choice. Lane isn't, which is cool, and as neither of us i like to become pregnant, no matter what progressives say, it's not really relevant. that later phrase could be repeated several to many times in this post. Lastly, you seem to think that only and all evangelicals are GOP - nothing could be further from the truth -

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

2. The Republicans also have a cultural identity that unites them.

ah, nope, in fact, you, yourself, listed several items. Elon Musk, for a far example, has, other than basic biology, nothing in common with a working stiff catholic in the deep NE. When I id'd as a republican, we didn't have little get togethers, spreading the words of Lincoln

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

They hate liberals, LGBT, blacks and minorities,

Odd you say that -- Who voted OVERWHELMINGLY for the civil rights act of 1964? Who had to be dragging, kicking and screaming, for it? Who pushed through the women's suffrage act, who DIED to protect unknown-to-them minorities in the the 60s? Who voted FOR the equal rights amendment, at the time? the answer is firmly republicans

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Idolising history of the Southern confederacy,

nah, bruh, that's a rural south thing, regardless of party

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Rural culturalists as mentioned above

hmm, weird, it's almost like you made this up - 83% of americans like in urban areas .. the "fly over" states aren't all rural and rural counties are sparsely populated - and those do vote mixed bag - you might actually try this word of for size "RESEARCH"

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

3. The Republicans also have a blind belief without any rational foundation on "individual freedom"

literally in the constitution - like literally -- you know, talking about a 3rd party country from your own experience might not be your game.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
that has no reference to personal responsibility

oh, you mean like the republican concept of if you do the crime you do the crime?

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
to the country and every single citizen

in america, the average citizen has ZERO duty to "every single citizen", again, see my comment about 3rd county - i certainly have ZERO duty to a county jail prisoner in another state, and i have ERO duty to support anyone outside of whom i decide to support -- perhaps you have us confused with.. well, i don't know where every citizen has a duty to every citizen.. I guess in naki-landia

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
. Tribalism is the heart and soul of the Republicans

WEIRD< dude, it's like you keep making stuff up, and then self contradict in the next breath - Is it late there? do you need some tea to clear your head? republicans don't brag about appointing a person based on physical or family conditions, they brag about hiring the best.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

4. The Republicans have been pushing hard to the right for a very long time.

hmm, not so much - the left has moved so far left that it APPEARS that respecting the life of an unborn or being proud to be an american looks "far right" .. but you aren't an american, in any way, now, are you?

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
KKK members were prominent

founded by dems, ran by dems, and had millions of members when dems --

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter: (under the Democratic label - before the parties swapped ideologies)

the parties NEVER swapped ideologies - and if you affirm that to be truth, give me a DATE when it happened.. heck, even a year when it was done-- even the professor that came up with this concept REFUSED to give me a date that it was done, or largely done, and blocked me when i asked "what date was that largely done within" - and, since we are on the KKK, it went from MILLIONS of members under dem control, to a few pathetic remnants when it allegedly (i use David Duke as the line) became "republican" and even FURTHER, when you come up with your "date" of the great party switch, then your are then asserting that every president prior to that date was actually the other party -- was it grant? one of the Roosevelts, kennedy? reagan? Obama? pick a date and own the consequences

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
. In more recent times, since Carl Rove,

oh, how cute, carl rove is your boogeyman --

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
they have really been pushing to the far Right

but you just said they have been pushing right for a very long time, in line item 4 above.. please stick with a single narrative, sir, it will make you seem like you know what you are talking about

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
and normalising the views and behaviour of people such as Bannon, Proud Boys and similar groups,

uhm, old son, you understand these people aren't NORMALIZED, but the left sure seems to be having a field day, with riots, Antifa, and BLM .. but, sure, do continue, let's not let logic and facts get in the way of your story

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
MGT, Bobert, Matt Getz, Jordan, ted Cruz and many more.

oh, you are confusing tea party response with the majority of republicans.. i guess it's easy to get lost in the blur for 7,000 miles away

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
5. The biggest and new ideology is TRUMPISM and the MAGA cult

i know a few people, left and right, and only a very few "embrace" trump, and fewer still will hold that thought when pressed on details. The are called reluctant republicans, who can't, by their morals, vote for the current dems. My mother in law, for example, has ALWAYS voted dem, until it became progressive, then she refused to vote until she died. I am concerned that she's now voting straight dem ticket from the graveyard district

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:


If loyalty to the constitution was the criterion,

most americans are only passingly aware of the details of the constitution, and fewer are voting based on those lofty concepts, they are voting for what they see as their future-- oh, i am certain that there are some zealots that wind up making a forced choice as to which candidate violates the voters concept of the constitution, but those are pretty vanishingly small .. see 2 party system. VERY few 3rd party candidates, since 1960, have earned enough votes, even in the polls, to participate in presidential debates, and only one even had a material impact on the outcome - h ross perot.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
100% of American adults should be voting against Trump for Jan 6 insurrection crimes.

I don't really have nothing on that - if a court finds him guilty on 6th crimes, he deserves to be punished

whew, that took longer than i really wanted to invest in that -- i think i'll go make dinner for my family

quote:

Originally posted by RolandtheHeadless:
You guys need to quit the long postings. I have trouble finding time to read them.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Well, Let me respond as politely as possible to this childish and immature diatribe.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

First of all, I do not believe in hate.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I have strong views tat are non-negotiable and fundamentally based on my EVANGELICAL values and scripture.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I also have strong views based on cultural and historical experiences derived from my Indian heritage.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

While I do not believe in HATE,

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I do detest, despise, dislike, abhor, despise, loathe, abominate, execrate, reject,

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:repudiate the fundamental principles of Right wing ideology and politics.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Let explain further as you obviously not been reading or understanding what I have posted for over a decade here in this forum.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

I am repulsed by colonialism, post colonialism and all its vestiges that continue to be perpetrated by Right wing ideology.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

This includes the criminal oligarchy of the Right

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

and in particular the US, the institutional racism practiced and preached by the GOP

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
and its supporters, the anti democratic anti-freedom ideology

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
enshrined in Right wing ideology

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
and the basic disregard of human rights

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
and the principle that all humans GLOBALLY

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
are equal and have equal unalienable rights.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
BTW, All these repulsive traits are contrary the teachings of Jesus Christ.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Most of the so called Evangelicals are cultural Christians and not spiritual practitioners of the teachings of Jesus.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I include people like Lane in this category. 95% of evangelicals are GOP supporters. This is part of US stats.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

The real problem is NOT the 50% that you refer to. It is the top 0.1% criminal oligarchs and probably a fringe 5% alt right extremists. I also denounce the far left which actually does not exist in the US.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I am referring to the global context and not to the myopic rural village in West Texas & Oklahoma.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

The remaining 44% are just sheep who follow blindly because they are indoctrinated by Culture.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Ok smart a$$, just let me replace the first "Major" with "Primary". Are you going to pick every punctuation and spelling?

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
That explains why you cannot understand the basic principles and the ethics that I debate on for over a decade.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

You are so one eyed.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
You are referring to the 60s but not to the Dixi Democrats and how the civil Rights movement.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
The Democratic party "Lost the South for 50 years".

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
You conveniently forget that Lincoln's Republicans were the Liberals and not the pro slavery conservatives.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter
:You conveniently disregard or deny that the two parties switched platforms.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Do republicans really believe that "if you do the crime then you do the time"?

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I do not see a single Republican apply this principle to Trump and his many crimes or to Bannon or Matt Gatz etc.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Again KKK was founded by the OLD Democrats

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
and then the parties switched platforms.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
How convenient that you ignore this historical fact.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Which party's supporter fly the Confederate flag in the last 50 years?

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Which party still kept building monuments for the confederates right through the 60s into the early 2000s?

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Do you think people are stupid to fall for your lies and deflections?

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

I have been to the US more than once and had the right to live and work there. Now I doubt that you have seen much of the great world with 8 Billion people.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Most Americans irrespective of party have a very myopic world view.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

American jingoism and ignorance is well documented. Every "World series" or similar title is restricted to minuscule number of people.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Your understanding of the "Left" is laughable. Obama, Biden, Harris etc are far Right compared to Rishi Sunak, Macron, Angela Merkel etc. Bernie Sanders and the Squad might fit in with the Liberal Democrats of Europe. That is very moderate.

Fundamental human rights should never be trampled upon.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
The US has a long history of doing that and the GOP is its leader in that crime. Trump is its face right now.

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

quote:

Originally posted by jeffeosso:
well, naki does go on and on, but sure, i have time, i am not tired yet -- but it's rather amusing that he never addresses his failing or defends them, just goes off on a ranting tangent about other stuff.. DUDE , IDK what your religion or sexual preference is . that's YOUR business. this will be a distraction from a long week

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Well, Let me respond as politely as possible to this childish and immature diatribe.

uh, huh... tell us more about how you can't accept feedback after bloviation .. i mean, its obvious, but do, friend, go on

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

First of all, I do not believe in hate.

"believe" i am not going to bother to post the definition of the word hate, bute, regardless of one's tenuous grip on reality, it's real-- belief isn't required, you might grow out of your "specific" word view and accept the world and word as it is

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I have strong views tat are non-negotiable and fundamentally based on my EVANGELICAL values and scripture.

i assume you meant THAT not tat - moving on, nice that you have religious views, i don't care

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I also have strong views based on cultural and historical experiences derived from my Indian heritage.

side topic, your handle, NAKI is a Marathi word, rather than "pan Indian" - so, are you from Bombay, the ghat mountains, or Puna .. did you move before or after L&T built NH4? oh, a little surprised? Yeah, man, i've been in your inferred region, A LOT, and built 3 "captive development centers" in Puna - I've walked up Parvarti Hill, opened licenses tech offices, blah blah blah

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:

While I do not believe in HATE,

see above, hate is real, your belief isn't required

quote:

Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I do detest, despise, dislike, abhor, despise, loathe, abominate, execrate, reject,

hmm, have you heard of a thesaurus? these as synonyms of hate - if synonyms is an unfamliar words, you can PM jefffifi for Gladys's email, she might explain it to your

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:repudiate the fundamental principles of Right wing ideology and politics.

so, to be clear, ANYONE to the right of YOU and your unpublished and undefined "rules" you "dislike"? Got it.. so Both Kennedy and Obama are too right for you? i might could say thanks for clearing that up" but the syntactic content is zero, so, hard pass

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Let explain further as you obviously not been reading or understanding what I have posted for over a decade here in this forum.

Nice, so, in your mind, a SINGLE decade of posting gives you gravitas .. is that only relevant to YOU, or does DOUBLE your ET mean it has DOUBLE weight, or do you just ignore it .. i mean, i wouldn't call your narcissistic in this, but i mean, if you are claiming "time served on a free website as important, how do you measure DOUBL?

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

I am repulsed by colonialism, post colonialism and all its vestiges that continue to be perpetrated by Right wing ideology.

aww, so, you are willing to to IGNORE your own home country's history of the same, but dislike it in others? Are you settled that than Marathi being a colonizer, and all the Arab/Indian/Arab/Indian empires that racked "India" for roughly 1,000 years doesn't count? Oh, your poor sod, you didn't realize that I have a History degree and have been to India MANY times, have spent most of that time in your homeland, AND Have read the Mahabharata ... opps, an American that reads.. boooooo, how scary

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

This includes the criminal oligarchy of the Right

oligarchy - rule of a small ruling class... explain to me, again the rulership of Marathi ? Doesn't seem like a democracy .. and then, of course, if your "hate" oligarchy, well, WOW, Trump is YOUR candidate.. he's never been part of the system, and his first foray into politics was winning the white house.. I would never have thought you to be a trumpter.. amazing

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

and in particular the US, the institutional racism practiced and preached by the GOP

quote and citation from a per reviewed source required. The GOP NEVER assumes that "all" the minorities will vote for them, "if you don't know if you will vote for me or for trump, then you ain't black" has never been said by the GOP, and "racism" .. dude, you are just to FOS, as the GOP actually is the protector of rights.. RESARECH not sound bits.. you can do better, man

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
and its supporters, the anti democratic anti-freedom ideology

1 - the US is NOT a democracy - and if you have believed that in the past, here's a time to correct your past sins. The US is a representative republic -- words have meaning.

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
enshrined in Right wing ideology

Lincoln .. you make me tired (that's a southern saying) The "right wing" believes in personal freedom and protection of minorities, i refer you to, oh, HISTORY to so you

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
and the basic disregard of human rights

like the civil rights at of 1964, freeing the slaves, ensuring only americans vote, and trying to control human trafficing at the border? are you SURE you want to have this discussion

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
and the principle that all humans GLOBALLY

Uhmm, Aerica isn't the "world police" .. news flash, there isn't a world police.. but if you like, we could drag out and compare the Indian casta system -- you wanna play that?

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
are equal and have equal unalienable rights.

uhmm, like literally, the biggrst depature from reality i have seen on AR .. there isn't th equal to even the 1st amendment in 200+ countries, no need to drag this out, but WOW, guy, you delusions are almost palpable.

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
BTW, All these repulsive traits are contrary the teachings of Jesus Christ.

religion is personal, AND prohibited from creating law in the US. I am agnostic, so all i hear is blah blah blah, my imaginary friend tells me so

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Most of the so called Evangelicals are cultural Christians and not spiritual practitioners of the teachings of Jesus.

see above.. I am happy if your are happy with your imaginary friend

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I include people like Lane in this category. 95% of evangelicals are GOP supporters. This is part of US stats.

citation REQUIRED - you don't get to make these sweeping statements without proof - You can leave Lane out of the conversation, as to actual "big thinker" a sample set of 1 is meaningless. FURTHER, there is zero published data stating a percentage o protestants that are evangelicals .. why don't you leave religion OUT of a conversation about the US, as not only are you less than a tyro in the matter, there is also ZERO peer reviewed data on 95% of anyone guessing who supports what. But, from this, I will assume that math and statistics and scientific method aren't your strong suits. got it

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

The real problem is NOT the 50% that you refer to. It is the top 0.1% criminal oligarchs and probably a fringe 5% alt right extremists. I also denounce the far left which actually does not exist in the US.

0.1 % has zero net effect in predicting or selecting an election, 5% is also pretty irrelevant - in fact, the parties are set, the very very very middle, the independents change votes. your phrasing of "criminal oligarchs" is rejected as a fancy rebranding of "deep state" grow up

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I am referring to the global context and not to the myopic rural village in West Texas & Oklahoma.

"rural village" I spit y tea out over that.. YOUR live in NZ - I ( and Lane, and Mitchell) live in the DFW metroplex, and I also live in the Houston metroplex -- both the these metros have nearly DOUBLE the population of the entire country of NZ - but, what's worse, is that the Texas of Texas has TEN TIMES the GDp of NZ -- you might want to retract that whole "rural village" thing.. darn the maths, Texas has FIVE cities that average larger than all the top cities in NZ< Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Fort Worth, and Austin ,, "rural", as you are using it in a pejorative, is laughable from your "position of authority" that you are attempting to establish

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

The remaining 44% are just sheep who follow blindly because they are indoctrinated by Culture.

so, your either have peer reviewed research o r have talked to them? please post either -

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Ok smart a$$, just let me replace the first "Major" with "Primary". Are you going to pick every punctuation and spelling?

uhm, words have meaning.. ONE, SOME, MANY, and all have very different meanings - while I may snark at your misspellings, when you are logically inconsistent, especially in a expressing a single thought, yeah, i'll point it out - but THAT's your "defense" that your think straight up being logically inconsistent in a single sentence should be ignored? well, it's late on a friday, but thanks for the laugh

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
That explains why you cannot understand the basic principles and the ethics that I debate on for over a decade.

"decade" see comments above-- "ethics", but you prattle on about moral compass, frankly, i express outstanding ethics, you, well, can't even say opps, i was wrong. Your problem is that i DO understand not only the "basic: principals, but I am actually schooled and degreed in the advanced .. get over yourself, Naki .. gawd, when will his rant ever end? I am getting tired

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

You are so one eyed.

nah, i have 2, but wear readers, so called 4 eyed .. oh, perhaps that is a colloquialism, if so, its been entirely missed

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
You are referring to the 60s but not to the Dixi Democrats and how the civil Rights movement.

uhm, did you have a thought you wanted to express? Dems certainly tried to block the civil rights act of 1964, where the GOP overwhelmingly voted for? this isn't supporting your yarn

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
The Democratic party "Lost the South for 50 years".

that's weird, as that wasn't even close to what jphnson said .. again, if this is your basis, perhaps a little research would correct your ill-informed views

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
You conveniently forget that Lincoln's Republicans were the Liberals and not the pro slavery conservatives.

your words, your strawman, YOU make it walk - REPUBLICANS took the Slaves away from DEMOCRATS, and you failed.. oh, wait, next point

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Originally posted by Nakihunter
:You conveniently disregard or deny that the two parties switched platforms.

Still sticking with that? Give a DATE IT HAPPENED, and accept consequences - one crazed prof said this happened, and has NEVER published his paper and has never been peer reviewed. but, WOW, some crazy far leftists buy into it -- give me a date, and we'll discuss.. keep blathering, and you get what your content deserves

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Do republicans really believe that "if you do the crime then you do the time"?

yes

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
I do not see a single Republican apply this principle to Trump and his many crimes or to Bannon or Matt Gatz etc.

Show me the court ruling, but i am NOT a "conventional" republican by your standards- Bannon got his sentence, and served it.. Gaetz (lack of spelling says something) hasn't even been charged, so just noise, and trump, once appeals have been done, should serve a sentence if applicable .. but, this comment is just a distractor

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Again KKK was founded by the OLD Democrats

yes, had millions of people when it was a dem org

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
and then the parties switched platforms.

other comments, never hapended

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
How convenient that you ignore this historical fact.

uhm, that's inverted .. your petard, your own hoisting

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Which party's supporter fly the Confederate flag in the last 50 years?

IDK, I don't ask, i ignore it.. why are you fascinated by it

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Which party still kept building monuments for the confederates right through the 60s into the early 2000s?

dems.. literally, documented, by dems .. no joke, no snark .. heck even wikipedia let's your see it

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
Do you think people are stupid to fall for your lies and deflections?

i don't expect a single person to be swayed by me - not even my wife.. i have ZERO control of another human .. not even my wife .. i have no desire to control what another adult does .. why is that important to you?

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

I have been to the US more than once and had the right to live and work there. Now I doubt that you have seen much of the great world with 8 Billion people.

awwww.. how cute.. you think you know america for a couple trips? While I won't get into a DMC with you, I've been to 36 countries, with ~3 months total time in India, a bit more in South Korea, less in others - but, who's surprised that you assumed incorrectly

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Most Americans irrespective of party have a very myopic world view.

yep

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

American jingoism and ignorance is well documented. Every "World series" or similar title is restricted to minuscule number of people.

ohh, after a huge diatribe on a minuscule country and their obscure parties, you then try to minimize it? dude.. this is irrational and inconsistent

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Your understanding of the "Left" is laughable. Obama, Biden, Harris etc are far Right compared to Rishi Sunak, Macron, Angela Merkel etc. Bernie Sanders and the Squad might fit in with the Liberal Democrats of Europe. That is very moderate.

Fundamental human rights should never be trampled upon.

undefined term - but I assume it means something you made up

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:
The US has a long history of doing that and the GOP is its leader in that crime. Trump is its face right now.

WOW -- let's check the record - WWI - democrat, WWII - democrat, Korean War - democrat, Vietnam war - Democrat, Liberation of Kuwait - GOP, Desert Storm - GOP - Continuation of Desert Storm/ war on ISIS/WeGot Osama - Democrat -- wars started under Trump - NONE -- Russia invading Ukraine? Obama and Biden -- your data is wrong

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Originally posted by Nakihunter:

Well, it took awhile to work through this dog's breakfast, but here we are. Naki irrationally hates America and is more than willing to make up lies to support that, and he's from a country smaller than a couple cities in Texas, but he's "been to america" so he knows everything about america, religion, and polices, and we should listen to him, as he's some sort of elder..

yeah .. back to youtube.. i want to shower, as i feel dirty.. and a glass of wine.. i think i deserve a glass of wine, even if that disturbs Naki's religion