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30 September 2025, 19:47

Mike Mitchell

Hegseth berates top brass at meeting

Channeling that "warrior ethos" of his....I wonder if that includes not getting falling down drunk? Or being unfaithful to your wife?

trump spoke too. I just bet all those career military folks were happy to hear from Cadet Bone-spurs about what their obligations are as professional military officers.

https://www.reuters.com/world/...virginia-2025-09-30/

30 September 2025, 20:10

TomP

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Channeling that "warrior ethos" of his....I wonder if that includes not getting falling down drunk? Or being unfaithful to your wife?

trump spoke too. I just bet all those career military folks were happy to hear from Cadet Bone-spurs about what their obligations are as professional military officers.

https://www.reuters.com/world/...virginia-2025-09-30/

A cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do...

TomP

Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right.

Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906)

30 September 2025, 22:13

LongDistanceOperator

Can someone show us the video of someone spitting in an American soldier’s face and the soldier not reacting?

30 September 2025, 23:46

crbutler

While I don’t think Hegseth is the man for the job, I have no issue with the military getting back to its role being killing people and breaking things once the government has decided war is our only option.

A return to a force based on that principle is warranted. A military should not be a social experiment.

Of course, if we went fully that way, Hegseth would not fit as he’s more political than combat oriented himself. Yes, he’s a bit of a hypocrite.

Of course, while you might find an exception occasionally, the vast majority of the political folks are hypocrites.

01 October 2025, 01:37

LHeym500

I watched it.

Vulgar, fake Christianity, rife with hypocrisy, and equality is not an experiment.

The hypocrisy was the use of vulgarity and Christianity to make other US citizens others and less than.

01 October 2025, 02:32

MLindsay

I did not watch the entire speech, however the return to high fitness levels is great.

01 October 2025, 02:33

Magine Enigam

quote:
Originally posted by crbutler:
While I don’t think Hegseth is the man for the job, I have no issue with the military getting back to its role being killing people and breaking things once the government has decided war is our only option.

A return to a force based on that principle is warranted. A military should not be a social experiment.

Of course, if we went fully that way, Hegseth would not fit as he’s more political than combat oriented himself. Yes, he’s a bit of a hypocrite.

Hegseth is the perfect man for the job that Trump envisions.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...KVb?ocid=socialshare

Trump tells a roomful of silent generals to join a ‘war from within’
Story by Emily Davies, Matt Viser • 5h • 4 min read

President Donald Trump delivered a meandering address to an unprecedented gathering of the country’s top military leaders, railing against his predecessor, celebrating tariffs and floating the idea of using American cities as a training ground for the military as he painted a picture of the U.S. under attack “from within.”

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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus

01 October 2025, 03:09

ledvm

I ate lunch in Plano today with my lawyer buddy and his client/friend who is a retired Marine colonel who owns a shooting facility in East Texas.

The retired colonel’s words on Hegseth’s speech were: “It was a master-class speech…about f***ing time.”

I really didn’t listen to it all.

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J. Lane Easter, DVM

A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.

01 October 2025, 03:31

LHeym500

Don’t care.

The only thing it is about and part due is for those men not to hold office.

01 October 2025, 03:43

ledvm

quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
Don’t care.

The only thing it is about and part due is for those men not to hold office.

I agree…you don’t care.

01 October 2025, 03:55

LHeym500

A) Your sources are questionable.

You lie and manipulate all the time on here.

2) Whst your retired colonel friend who shares your prejudices says matters not.

01 October 2025, 04:02

ledvm

Nah…I call it like it is. You are no part of a conservative. And like you say…you don’t care…about anything of importance.

01 October 2025, 04:49

Mike Mitchell

quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
Nah…I call it like it is. You are no part of a conservative. And like you say…you don’t care…about anything of importance.

You're so full of shit your breath stinks. You know this guy and you know that guy and you have all the inside info. It's always the same story with you. Bull fucking shit.

Can you even imagine what all those general officers thought while listening to our alcoholic womanizing sec def lectured them about war-fighting? The guy that had to be carried out of more than one party because he was too drunk to walk? The guy who was so drunk at a strip club he had to be stopped from getting on the stage with the strippers? The guy who his fellow FOX news employees were worried he'd be too drunk to do his monkey-show on FOX?

I'd be willing to bet virtually every single one of them was a junior officer during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and were probably actively involved in combat operations. And, they have to listen to some alcoholic womanizer who frosts his hair and cheats on his wife tell them that they can't carry a little extra weight or grow a beard. Right after listening to Cadet Bone-Spur who dodged the draft lecture them about their military obligations to our country. Or, more likely, to him.

Obscene. Ridiculous. Par for the course for the trump administration. A joke.

01 October 2025, 05:03

Tumbleweed

What I heard was a de facto ‘night of the long knives’. If you won’t kiss the ring, resign - and I think many will in coming weeks.

Then they’ll be replaced by men who swear fealty to Trump instead of to the Constitution; an influx of politically affiliated SchutzStaffel.

Between Hegseth and Trump (the alcoholic and the draft dodger) they were so insulting and denigrating that a lot of these fine and accomplished men will not stoop to serving under them.

01 October 2025, 06:02

Mike Mitchell

quote:
Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
What I heard was a de facto ‘night of the long knives’. If you won’t kiss the ring, resign - and I think many will in coming weeks.

Then they’ll be replaced by men who swear fealty to Trump instead of to the Constitution; an influx of politically affiliated SchutzStaffel.

Between Hegseth and Trump (the alcoholic and the draft dodger) they were so insulting and denigrating that a lot of these fine and accomplished men will not stoop to serving under them.

It's the only explanation that makes any sense assuming there is any sense to be made of it. Getting rid of everybody that is not a trump ass-licker.

01 October 2025, 06:23

Tumbleweed

"I'm going to meet with generals, admirals, and leaders. And if I don't like someone, I'll fire them on the spot," he said. - Trump said.

Quite a mouthful from a philandering, felonious fraud perpetrating draft dodger. He’s about as qualified to judge or fire men of that caliber as Bozo the Clown would be.

I think he really intended to insult them to the point of inducing the departure of those who aren’t brain washed ass kissers. That’s how an autocrat consolidates power.

01 October 2025, 06:49

Mike Mitchell

quote:
Originally posted by Tumbleweed:
"I'm going to meet with generals, admirals, and leaders. And if I don't like someone, I'll fire them on the spot," he said. - Trump said.

Quite a mouthful from a philandering, felonious fraud perpetrating draft dodger. He’s about as qualified to judge or fire men of that caliber as Bozo the Clown would be.

I think he really intended to insult them to the point of inducing the departure of those who aren’t brain washed ass kissers. That’s how an autocrat consolidates power.

Again....it's the only explanation that makes any sense. The entire world wondered what possible explanation there could be to call every US general officer to a meeting. You've identified it. I'm surprised our drunk idiot sec def didn't require an oath of loyalty to trump during the lecture.

01 October 2025, 06:59

LHeym500

Sec of Defense Hegseth declared the military was for “war fighting.”

President Trump declares the military is to be used upon “enemies within.”

Never mind that is illegal under Federal law.

The legal justification for our Revolution.

01 October 2025, 06:59

TomP

What exactly did Secretary Hegseth do during his deployments?

TomP

Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right.

Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906)

01 October 2025, 07:07

Mike Mitchell

quote:
Originally posted by TomP:
What exactly did Secretary Hegseth do during his deployments?

Got his hair frosted and some weird-ass looking nazi tattoos...between drinking bouts.

https://radaronline.com/p/dona...on-slams-nomination/

01 October 2025, 07:10

Mike Mitchell

quote:
Originally posted by LHeym500:
Sec of Defense Hegseth declared the military was for “war fighting.”

President Trump declares the military is to be used upon “enemies within.”

Never mind that is illegal under Federal law.

The legal justification for our Revolution.

We're beyond posse comitatus. Law means nothing to trump. We'll see what excuse the SCOTUS comes up with the allow him to side-skirt it...and they will. They're complicit.

"The Posse Comitatus Act is a federal law that restricts the use of the U.S. military for domestic law enforcement purposes. Enacted in 1878, it prohibits federal military personnel from acting as a posse comitatus (the power of the county) to enforce civilian laws unless expressly authorized by the Constitution or an act of Congress."

01 October 2025, 07:47

Magine Enigam

Why did Hegseth and Trump call together so many generals and admirals?

Because they could.

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by crbutler:
While I don’t think Hegseth is the man for the job, I have no issue with the military getting back to its role being killing people and breaking things once the government has decided war is our only option.

A return to a force based on that principle is warranted. A military should not be a social experiment.

Of course, if we went fully that way, Hegseth would not fit as he’s more political than combat oriented himself. Yes, he’s a bit of a hypocrite.

Hegseth is the perfect man for the job that Trump envisions.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...KVb?ocid=socialshare

Trump tells a roomful of silent generals to join a ‘war from within’
Story by Emily Davies, Matt Viser • 5h • 4 min read

President Donald Trump delivered a meandering address to an unprecedented gathering of the country’s top military leaders, railing against his predecessor, celebrating tariffs and floating the idea of using American cities as a training ground for the military as he painted a picture of the U.S. under attack “from within.”

Doc, I am disappointed, for lack of a better word, that you don't get it.

What is it going to take, if this doesn't?

It's really happening right in plain sight.

https://youtu.be/uWcuadF229g?si=0JcNGtcfGkwRyVdz

At gathering of military leaders, Trump hints at deployment in U.S. cities

01 October 2025, 08:30

medved

well it cannot be that bad if the supreme leader is doing some healthy training ... but i do not understand why we are talking about defense while the new name is war ... way different ....

01 October 2025, 08:56

LHeym500

Because I refuse to give this lawless regime that inch.

01 October 2025, 08:58

LHeym500

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
Why did Hegseth and Trump call together so many generals and admirals?

Because they could.

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by crbutler:
While I don’t think Hegseth is the man for the job, I have no issue with the military getting back to its role being killing people and breaking things once the government has decided war is our only option.

A return to a force based on that principle is warranted. A military should not be a social experiment.

Of course, if we went fully that way, Hegseth would not fit as he’s more political than combat oriented himself. Yes, he’s a bit of a hypocrite.

Hegseth is the perfect man for the job that Trump envisions.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...KVb?ocid=socialshare

Trump tells a roomful of silent generals to join a ‘war from within’
Story by Emily Davies, Matt Viser • 5h • 4 min read

President Donald Trump delivered a meandering address to an unprecedented gathering of the country’s top military leaders, railing against his predecessor, celebrating tariffs and floating the idea of using American cities as a training ground for the military as he painted a picture of the U.S. under attack “from within.”

Doc, I am disappointed, for lack of a better word, that you don't get it.

What is it going to take, if this doesn't?

It's really happening right in plain sight.

https://youtu.be/uWcuadF229g?si=0JcNGtcfGkwRyVdz

At gathering of military leaders, Trump hints at deployment in U.S. cities

He has a Bunch of Fighting Generals last time Mathis, who my Judge a former Msrine Colonel in combat loved. They all resigned unable to teach the Dr. Easter’s greatest president anything, or go along with his idiocy that was making us all unsafe.

01 October 2025, 09:29

M.Shy

Excellent speech and about time
Generals have been politicized much too long

Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two

01 October 2025, 10:54

Scott King

I'm of a different opinion of our General Staff than some of what's mentioned above.

I'm inclined to think officers like Mattis, Kelly and Milley serve and feel duty bound to their nation and less so to the current popular opinion seated in the Oval Office.

"Duty, Honor, Country" doesn't include revenge partisan politics.

I don't expect mass resignations from our leadership. I expect a continuation of dedication to the service they have chosen and solid commitment to America.

Shrodinger mentioned the other day that he worked for a couple of the people he most vehemently disagrees with. I expect our fighting men and women to do the same thru the next few years.

01 October 2025, 16:08

M.Shy

I bet house our fighting men and women hated Biden admin…that’s a fact

Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two

01 October 2025, 17:25

LHeym500

I bet which is an assumption and the word fact are not the same.

The is a fact.

01 October 2025, 18:51

Magine Enigam

quote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
I bet house our fighting men and women hated Biden admin…that’s a fact

It's a fact that you think that's true.

01 October 2025, 19:12

Magine Enigam

quote:
Originally posted by Scott King:
I'm of a different opinion of our General Staff than some of what's mentioned above.

I'm inclined to think officers like Mattis, Kelly and Milley serve and feel duty bound to their nation and less so to the current popular opinion seated in the Oval Office.

"Duty, Honor, Country" doesn't include revenge partisan politics.

I don't expect mass resignations from our leadership. I expect a continuation of dedication to the service they have chosen and solid commitment to America.

Shrodinger mentioned the other day that he worked for a couple of the people he most vehemently disagrees with. I expect our fighting men and women to do the same thru the next few years.

I agree with what you said mostly. I think Hegseth and Trump doubled teamed on them as a farce show of strength. The real strength is in the audience, and they all know it. Hegseth and Trump were trying a big/little preemptive bluff knowing the inbred resistance to a fascist running amuck with the constitution. The gene pool of those officers has been selective breed for many years. The dogs of war know what Trump and Hegseth are and I figure that they loathe them as much as or more than Mattis, Kelly and Milley and more did.

I think it's gonna be just like Kimmel's ratings soared after Trump's stunt.

About the only thing you said that I don't agree with is you use of the words "partisan politics". What Trump is doing could be diminished with that term because it is in the political arena and it is partisan. However, the idea of deploying military to blue cities and training there, with instruction from the top to use lethal force, is in another realm.

We all know from history and logic EXACTLY how this is essential fascist playbook. The top brass know this is an existential crisis and they know who is causing it.

If you and I and others are correct, this isn't going to work out as Trump plans.

The one group who has the power to steer it one way or another is the military, but only if deployed with Trump's mission. They could resist or comply or march out-of-step.

Let's look at the scenario (short story)

One way or another Trump is going to stir mass protests, maybe riots. That's also playbook.

Then he will use that for crackdown, if he hasn't already, causing the situation to escalate.

He wants to and will declare martial law, nationally, and we all know the next steps in the playbook

Cities will burn, people will be killed, and he will rejoice in his power bubble.

Until it stops.

And how's an election going to happen in that National Erection?

What Trump has envisioned isn't just deployment of the military on citizens, but what he wants is an event or events that make the Kent State Massacre look like a picnic gone bad.

And he will claim he didn't see it coming, or that he tried to stop it, and blame the Left, and MAGA will believe him.

01 October 2025, 20:07

M.Shy

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
I bet house our fighting men and women hated Biden admin…that’s a fact

It's a fact that you think that's true.

And it is true

Never been lost, just confused here and there for month or two

01 October 2025, 20:12

Magine Enigam

You quoted that wrong. I don't know if you did it intentionally or not.

But I corrected it.

Yes, it's a fact that you think what you claim is true, the same as all your posts.

quote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
I bet house our fighting men and women hated Biden admin…that’s a fact

It's a fact that you think that's true.

And it is true

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Regarding my long post, responding to Scott King, I've had second thoughts.

The source of all disappointment is expectations.

I expected the majority of the nation had sense and morals enough to not vote Trump in power again. I was disappointed.

Expecting Trump to fail with his fascist playbook could result in another big disappointment.

Now I remember Michael Flynn. There could be more monsters like him in the military, and serve two purposes. One, obviously carry out Trump's plans with some creative enhancements, God's will of course. Two, serve as a watchdog for purging within the ranks those deemed not sufficiently loyal to Trump/God.

02 October 2025, 09:37

medved

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
You quoted that wrong. I don't know if you did it intentionally or not.

But I corrected it.

Yes, it's a fact that you think what you claim is true, the same as all your posts.

quote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by M.Shy:
I bet house our fighting men and women hated Biden admin…that’s a fact

It's a fact that you think that's true.

And it is true

=====================================================

Regarding my long post, responding to Scott King, I've had second thoughts.

The source of all disappointment is expectations.

I expected the majority of the nation had sense and morals enough to not vote Trump in power again. I was disappointed.

Expecting Trump to fail with his fascist playbook could result in another big disappointment.

Now I remember Michael Flynn. There could be more monsters like him in the military, and serve two purposes. One, obviously carry out Trump's plans with some creative enhancements, God's will of course. Two, serve as a watchdog for purging within the ranks those deemed not sufficiently loyal to Trump/God.

do not be dissapointed too soon you have not seen the worst: will it be from the supreme leader or the supporters of the cult of the supreme leader ...

03 October 2025, 08:40

Tumbleweed

https://www.facebook.com/reel/...0824152855?fs=e&fs=e

And not one iota of applause as their lard ass felonious New York real estate developer ‘Commander in Chief’ leaves the stage. Men of substance know a draft dodging phoney when they see one.

https://www.facebook.com/jamie...584899784/?fs=e&fs=e

Oh hell, why stop now…
https://www.facebook.com/reel/...6088848855?fs=e&fs=e