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03 March 2025, 02:56
Mike Mitchell
The real reason for the Trump/Zelensky meltdown
trump wants a Nobel Peace Prize.

Straight from Rubio's mouth.

“The sooner people grow up and realize that, I think the more progress we’re going to be able to make,” Mr. Rubio said. He added that Mr. Trump would be considered for the Nobel Peace Prize for his efforts if he were a Democrat.

It's the Obama thing. Sticks in trump's craw.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/0...y-ukraine-trump.html



03 March 2025, 02:59
jeffeosso
well, obama did get one for his "peace" efforts in the middle east -- right before he used a drone strike on a wedding --

but hey, the sniffer would like a word

https://www.the-independent.co...ry-aid-b2214647.html


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03 March 2025, 03:04
Mike Mitchell
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
well, obama did get one for his "peace" efforts in the middle east -- right before he used a drone strike on a wedding --

but hey, the sniffer would like a word

https://www.the-independent.co...ry-aid-b2214647.html


Not arguing about Obama's eligibility. Questionable at best.

But, this is what trump is after. Even if it leaves Ukraine out in the cold.

It explains the lunacy on trump's part in relation to how he is approaching it. He wants that Peace Prize.



03 March 2025, 03:05
jeffeosso
trump does NOT deserve a peace prize -- it's fricking stupid


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03 March 2025, 03:06
Mike Mitchell
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
trump does NOT deserve a peace prize -- it's fricking stupid


Jeffe.....stop stating the obvious. We're talking about trump and what trump wants.



03 March 2025, 03:09
Jefffive
Trump will never forget that he was impeached for attempting to extort Zelensky to make up dirt on Joe Biden, and since nothing is ever Trump's fault he blames Zelensky for not just rolling over.


"If you’re innocent why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”- Donald Trump
03 March 2025, 03:15
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by Jefffive:
Trump will never forget that he was impeached for attempting to extort Zelensky to make up dirt on Joe Biden, and since nothing is ever Trump's fault he blames Zelensky for not just rolling over.


don't you have a base or firing to lie about, fifi?

oh, wait, and the result of the "impeachment"? exoneration .. silly boi


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03 March 2025, 03:24
Mike Mitchell
Before this careens off into a Jeffe/J5 duel.

The United States has been helping to defend Ukraine against Russian aggression.

Now, we're not?

Somebody explain how any other country can trust the United States on anything if we diametrically change positions every four years?



03 March 2025, 03:28
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Before this careens off into a Jeffe/J5 duel.

The United States has been helping to defend Ukraine against Russian aggression.

Now, we're not?

Somebody explain how any other country can trust the United States on anything if we diametrically change positions every four years?


don't worry -- the kleagle of peckerwood county "has me on ignore" --

idk what to do on ukraine and israel -- giving treasure is one thing, but NO american blood should be spilt -- i am pretty worn out from the US being the world cops


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03 March 2025, 04:03
ANTELOPEDUNDEE
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Jefffive:
Trump will never forget that he was impeached for attempting to extort Zelensky to make up dirt on Joe Biden, and since nothing is ever Trump's fault he blames Zelensky for not just rolling over.


don't you have a base or firing to lie about, fifi?

oh, wait, and the result of the "impeachment"? exoneration .. silly boi


more like a bunch of dick suckers were afraid of him; TWICE and they still are.


Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit.
03 March 2025, 04:09
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Jefffive:
Trump will never forget that he was impeached for attempting to extort Zelensky to make up dirt on Joe Biden, and since nothing is ever Trump's fault he blames Zelensky for not just rolling over.


don't you have a base or firing to lie about, fifi?

oh, wait, and the result of the "impeachment"? exoneration .. silly boi


more like a bunch of d!ck suckers were afraid of him TWICE and they still are.


and yet the legal process was followed, and the results are exactly what they are every time a president has been impeached -- the hysterical "peoples" house votes by slim party line majority, and the senate says "no" ..

you are aware that no US president has been impeached and removed from office, right?

NOT
A
SINGLE
ONE

what did the GOP do with their majority? they didn't bother -

but, seriously, articles of impeachment where drawn up by dem-idiots (these specific ones, not demonizing the whole party) BEFORE trump took office in 2017 ...

do you know how STUPID that looks?


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03 March 2025, 04:12
wymple
"you are aware that no US president has been impeached and removed from office, right?"

And no other president has ever tried to overthrow the gov't either.
03 March 2025, 04:20
jeffeosso
and that renown rocket surgeon, from, sadly, my home town, al green, who can't follow a very dang simple formula says

quote:
Rep. Al Green (D-Texas) said: 'The movement to impeach the president has begun.'

'I rise to announce that I will bring Articles of Impeachment against the president for dastardly deeds proposed and dastardly deeds done,' he added in House floor remarks.


good old al --
failed mayor candidate, former justice of the peace, elected as a rep, the second most corrupt politico from houston behind SJL, never did a THING to improve schools or roads in his district - 99.9% of his constituency is "urban", and an utter SCAB on the face of american politics, from a district that has had ONE gop candidate in it's entire history

and he thinks his shoe polish hair dye goes unnoticed --

"dastardly deeds" ...
is that the Nola version of "dirty deeds" ?? as good old al is from Nola

dang, man, the formula is simple "high crimes and misdemeanors " is the charge ....


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03 March 2025, 04:23
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by wymple:
"you are aware that no US president has been impeached and removed from office, right?"

And no other president has ever tried to overthrow the gov't either.


oh, close enough .. i get it, you TRY to be part of the conversation .. but failure seems to be your normal result --

you STATE he tried to overthrow the government-- and here we are, 4 years later, no conviction nor even a trial ...

would i be SCREAMING a different song, had there been a trial and conviction? oh yeah .. but, honey, harris used the word "fight" 3 times more than trump did in his little speech --- but, of course, you wouldn't recognize an insurrection from an ... no, wait, never mind, that's beneath me

go back to applebee's- the waitress needs your 10% "tip"


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03 March 2025, 07:07
ANTELOPEDUNDEE
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by Jefffive:
Trump will never forget that he was impeached for attempting to extort Zelensky to make up dirt on Joe Biden, and since nothing is ever Trump's fault he blames Zelensky for not just rolling over.


don't you have a base or firing to lie about, fifi?

oh, wait, and the result of the "impeachment"? exoneration .. silly boi


more like a bunch of d!ck suckers were afraid of him TWICE and they still are.


and yet the legal process was followed, and the results are exactly what they are every time a president has been impeached -- the hysterical "peoples" house votes by slim party line majority, and the senate says "no" ..

you are aware that no US president has been impeached and removed from office, right?

NOT
A
SINGLE
ONE

what did the GOP do with their majority? they didn't bother -

but, seriously, articles of impeachment where drawn up by dem-idiots (these specific ones, not demonizing the whole party) BEFORE trump took office in 2017 ...

do you know how STUPID that looks?


Yes I'm aware, but the fact remains that they were afraid of him then and they still are. Also it's a political process, not a legal one. If you can believe the scuttlebutt back then it was said that if they could have voted secretly, he would have been convicted.


Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit.
03 March 2025, 07:11
ANTELOPEDUNDEE
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Before this careens off into a Jeffe/J5 duel.

The United States has been helping to defend Ukraine against Russian aggression.

Now, we're not?

Somebody explain how any other country can trust the United States on anything if we diametrically change positions every four years?


trump's role is to get concessions for Russia and from Ukraine. What could be more clearer.


Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit.
03 March 2025, 07:23
wymple
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by wymple:
"you are aware that no US president has been impeached and removed from office, right?"

And no other president has ever tried to overthrow the gov't either.


oh, close enough .. i get it, you TRY to be part of the conversation .. but failure seems to be your normal result --

you STATE he tried to overthrow the government-- and here we are, 4 years later, no conviction nor even a trial ...

would i be SCREAMING a different song, had there been a trial and conviction? oh yeah .. but, honey, harris used the word "fight" 3 times more than trump did in his little speech --- but, of course, you wouldn't recognize an insurrection from an ... no, wait, never mind, that's beneath me

go back to applebee's- the waitress needs your 10% "tip"


Harris never got a violent mob to stop the transfer of power, or came close to suggesting it. I know your head is stuck up trump's ass as if Jan 6th never happened. Preach to your choir.
03 March 2025, 07:30
shankspony
quote:
Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
Before this careens off into a Jeffe/J5 duel.

The United States has been helping to defend Ukraine against Russian aggression.

Now, we're not?

Somebody explain how any other country can trust the United States on anything if we diametrically change positions every four years?


Really you can't just blame the states. Ukraine has been drip fed and limited in what its been allowed to do all the way through, by all its "Allies" They should have been let off the leash from the start, and this would probably be over by now.
Its disappointing what's happened with the US, but criticism can be held wider.
03 March 2025, 14:42
Saeed
Trump already has a Noble Prize!

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03 March 2025, 17:59
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by wymple:
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by wymple:
"you are aware that no US president has been impeached and removed from office, right?"

And no other president has ever tried to overthrow the gov't either.


oh, close enough .. i get it, you TRY to be part of the conversation .. but failure seems to be your normal result --

you STATE he tried to overthrow the government-- and here we are, 4 years later, no conviction nor even a trial ...

would i be SCREAMING a different song, had there been a trial and conviction? oh yeah .. but, honey, harris used the word "fight" 3 times more than trump did in his little speech --- but, of course, you wouldn't recognize an insurrection from an ... no, wait, never mind, that's beneath me

go back to applebee's- the waitress needs your 10% "tip"


Harris never got a violent mob to stop the transfer of power, or came close to suggesting it. I know your head is stuck up trump's a$$ as if Jan 6th never happened. Preach to your choir.


except the word "fight" so offended congress that it was used in article i of 2nd impeachment

here's the exact text
quote:
He also willfully made statements that, in context, encouraged—and foreseeably resulted in—lawless action at the Capitol, such as: “ if you don’t fight like hell you’re not going to have a country anymore


here's the full text
https://www.congress.gov/bill/...e-resolution/24/text


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03 March 2025, 18:02
jeffeosso
quote:
Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:


Yes I'm aware, but the fact remains that they were afraid of him then and they still are. Also it's a political process, not a legal one. If you can believe the scuttlebutt back then it was said that if they could have voted secretly, he would have been convicted.

yes, people frequently do things different in secret rather than in public, but there's that pesky constitution, calling for public, named roll call votes, which was meant to control lots of nasty little secret things, oh like the star chamber, from happening


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476AR,
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03 March 2025, 19:33
ANTELOPEDUNDEE
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
quote:
Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:


Yes I'm aware, but the fact remains that they were afraid of him then and they still are. Also it's a political process, not a legal one. If you can believe the scuttlebutt back then it was said that if they could have voted secretly, he would have been convicted.

yes, people frequently do things different in secret rather than in public, but there's that pesky constitution, calling for public, named roll call votes, which was meant to control lots of nasty little secret things, oh like the star chamber, from happening


And I bet that their votes were pre-determined before the Senate even held a trial. And you think that trump cares about the Constitution? Only if it serves his purpose.


Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit.
03 March 2025, 19:51
Tumbleweed
quote:
Originally posted by jeffeosso:
well, obama did get one for his "peace" efforts in the middle east -- right before he used a drone strike on a wedding --

but hey, the sniffer would like a word

https://www.the-independent.co...ry-aid-b2214647.html

Obama’s Nobel prize came from sheer relief and celebration that Cheney & his Chimp were no longer causing turmoil.

Little did they know what the future held; now they have a weird version of Dubya on psychedelics.