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Thanks for giving us a chance to again winnow out the truth


You don't need me to help with that.

Nonetheless, I'm here to help.

“Walz attained the rank of command sergeant major and served in that role."

So, the way I read that statement, it needs no winnowing.

It's either true or false.

It was stated as true,

Is it false?

How could he "serve in that role" if he didn't attain it?

Definition literary
(of the wind) blow:
"the autumn wind winnowing its way through the grass"

I see a common thread. Wink


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I never purported to serve . . . but then again, I have never been critical of the record of someone who did for 24 years. Wink


In the guard.. 39 days a year.
936 days over 24 years.

Vance 4 years, 365 days = 1460...

Vance active duty, went where assigned.

Still.more than I have served.

One LIED repeatedly about rank and about being in war....

The other did his contract and left


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Thanks for giving us a chance to again winnow out the truth


You don't need me to help with that.

Nonetheless, I'm here to help.

“Walz attained the rank of command sergeant major and served in that role."

So, the way I read that statement, it needs no winnowing.

It's either true or false.

It was stated as true,

Is it false?

How could he "serve in that role" if he didn't attain it?


You have nil business experience right? Where "acting" role name means until filled or you earn it. I have been CIO once, and interim/acting twice. I didn't apply for the interim roles

He didn't EARN csm.. it's a blatant falsehood to say otherwise, as he didn't finish his COMMITMENT to the training but was temporarily assigned the rank before promotion. He didn't pass course, didn't pass the board tests, and didn't complete the additional 2 year enlisted commitment required in his COMMITMENT

He act as a CSM, sure enough, known to be a temp rank until earned or separated from the military.

I posted an article from his commanding officer flatly stating he didn't complete even one assignment as csm.

Cute editing to remove the context and gist... 11 year Olds use the same arguement style


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https://x.com/NoVA_Campaigns/s...1415000%2Fframe.html

Here is Timmy claiming CSM FOR YEARS ..and yet didn't happen


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Let's bring it down to relatable terms

Someone ASKS to buy a thing from you, but on payments. You think the guy will hold up his end of the bargain, and give him the thing with a down-payment along with a written. Agreement of schedule of payments, let's say 24 payments

Guy makes a couple payments, decides to stop paying any further payments, sells the thing without talking to you. You are never paid off

Was the thing ever his, or his to sell?


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He didn't EARN csm.. it's a blatant falsehood to say otherwise, as he didn't finish his COMMITMENT to the training but was temporarily assigned the rank before promotion. He didn't pass course, didn't pass the board tests, and didn't complete the additional 2 year enlisted commitment required in his COMMITMENT

He act as a CSM, sure enough, known to be a temp rank until earned or separated from the military.



“Walz attained the rank of command sergeant major and served in that role."

So, you're saying basically the same thing as the Harris campaign, but with vitriol added.

Someone assigned the rank. He didn't assume it.

It's a simple question: Did Walz serve in the role and rank assigned as command sergeant major?

It's a yes or no question. But you can't say it.


https://www.nytimes.com/2024/0...Y1F-O&smid=url-share

Vance Attacks Walz’s Military Record, Accusing Him of Avoiding a Tour in Iraq
Senator JD Vance of Ohio also claimed Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota had exaggerated his service record. Mr. Walz said a decision to retire and run for Congress came months before any notice of deployment.


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What was wrong with Walz just telling the truth about his service? People would have been, Oh, good job, thankyou. Instead he, Blumenthal and others have to exaggerate. To what end does it get them, other than to piss of real combat vets?
 
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He didn't EARN csm.. it's a blatant falsehood to say otherwise, as he didn't finish his COMMITMENT to the training but was temporarily assigned the rank before promotion. He didn't pass course, didn't pass the board tests, and didn't complete the additional 2 year enlisted commitment required in his COMMITMENT

He act as a CSM, sure enough, known to be a temp rank until earned or separated from the military.



“Walz attained the rank of command sergeant major and served in that role."

So, you're saying basically the same thing as the Harris campaign, but with vitriol added.

Someone assigned the rank. He didn't assume it.

It's a simple question: Did Walz serve in the role assigned as command sergeant major?

It's a yes or no question. But you can't say it.


The answer of "attained" is the fulcrum. Attaining rank, enlisted, requires meeting the terms and conditions, he was assigned the rank, with the assumption that he would complete his commitment to earn it. If you need it dumbed down to pondscum mentality, no, he never earned the rank.

If you want to play word games with stolen valor, I am not your huckleberry

Have they (harris campaign) restate his actual rank in press releases? Yes

Did he retire as an e9 csm? Nope

Did he complete the requirements to make e9 csm? Again,, nope

But Timmy could solve this by posting a single picture of his dd214.

He won't


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What was wrong with Walz just telling the truth about his service? People would have been, Oh, good job, thankyou. Instead he, Blumenthal and others have to exaggerate. To what end does it get them, other than to piss of real combat vets?


As with all liars about their accomplishment, it boils down to one word... I hope I can spell it right

Narcissism


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If you want to play word games with stolen valor, I am not your huckleberry


That's exactly what you are doing.

The question is:

Did Walz serve in the role and rank assigned as command sergeant major?

You have already answered the question.

So what's your huff about?

Maybe it's just huff.

If it ain't one thing it will be another. I understand your need to find something in affirmation.


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As with all liars about their accomplishment, it boils down to one word... I hope I can spell it right

Narcissism


lol Irony

There's an old saying: "Takes one to know one."

But it takes "help" as you suggested to know when one is a victim, and know the difference.

"Socrates said it most succinctly in his guiding principle, “Know thyself.” The Tao Te Ching stated, “Knowing others is intelligence, knowing yourself is true wisdom.” And in Hamlet, William Shakespeare wrote, “This above all, to thyne own self be true."


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If you want to play word games with stolen valor, I am not your huckleberry


That's exactly what you are doing.

The question is:

Did Walz serve in the role and rank assigned as command sergeant major?

You have already answered the question.

So what's you huff about?

Maybe it's just huff.

If it ain't one thing it will be another. I understand your need to find something in affirmation.


Do you not understand that given the temp ranknof csm without completing the requirements isn't earning it? Outside of war time, as fat as I know, this is the ONLY enlisted situation where temp rank is assigned before meeting requirements.

Did he earn it? No. And he and the Harris campaign now agree that he didn't.

You utter lack of understanding of the process is causing your blockage. It's literally 100% you


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Bloody hell, this thread is still going...

So Waltz lied. Has he done it once, or more than once? Lets say 50 times... so score 50 for for Wally

Now tell me what Trumps score is ...

I wont vote for anyone who I perceive to be dishonest or lacking in integrity, but it sure is fun to point out the slight variance in the current score board. If we chuck in 50 for Kamala as well that's maybe 100 for those two vs 9,999,999 for Donnie and JD bloke at this point.
 
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He didn't say, nor did the Harris campaign say he "earned" it.

Say that's a fact.

You are playing word games, again.

Oh, you already said it:

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Did he earn it? No. And he and the Harris campaign now agree that he didn't.


The word game is the use of "agree". They never said he earned it in the first place., so, what's to agree about?


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Did doc Johnson earn the rank of admiral and retired at that rank?

Yep

Did he do dumb stuff and get demoted after he resigned?

Yep

Did the left throw a sissy fit over stolen valor, for not updating his official bio

Again yes

Is doc Johnson a retired admiral? No, his revised dd214 shows commander, along with corrected pay and benefits.


Timmy dd214 doesn't say e9 csm. If it did, it would be exhibit a

You can put dd214 in Google, it will help you understand the conversation


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He didn't say, nor did the Harris campaign say he "earned" it.

Say that's a fact.

You are playing word games, again.


Stolen valor, approved by Kevin.


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There ya go again, with the name calling.

Clue = that's acknowledgment that you've already lost the argument.

It's just one of the tricks.

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"Did doc Johnson earn the rank of admiral and retired at that rank?

Yep"

What's that got to do with a discussion re Walz, who never claimed he "earned" it?


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TODAY’S SPECIAL: Thin Gruel All You Can Eat


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TODAY’S SPECIAL: Thin Gruel All You Can Eat


Stolen valor, also endorsed by mike... but only for dems

Got it


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TODAY’S SPECIAL: Thin Gruel All You Can Eat


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There ya go again, with the name calling.

Clue = that's acknowledgment that you've already lost the argument.

It's just one of the tricks.

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"Did doc Johnson earn the rank of admiral and retired at that rank?

Yep"

What's that got to do with a discussion re Walz, who never claimed he "earned" it?


No names called, it's also a sign that I am tried of repeating truths to help you understand and your willful ignorance, nay eager


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What was wrong with Walz just telling the truth about his service? People would have been, Oh, good job, thankyou. Instead he, Blumenthal and others have to exaggerate. To what end does it get them, other than to piss of real combat vets?


As with all liars about their accomplishment, it boils down to one word... I hope I can spell it right

Narcissism


Just vote for trump and be done with it. trump can spell it for you.


-Every damn thing is your own fault if you are any good.

 
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Let's hold hands and after you vote for trump, I will still vote third party


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“Walz attained the rank of command sergeant major and served in that role."

So, the way I read that statement, it needs no winnowing.

It's either true or false.

It was stated as true,

Is it false?

How could he "serve in that role" if he didn't attain it?

M E,
I will try to answer this statement. Yes you can serve with the title (important distinction here) as CSM which Waltz did, before actually being promoted to that rank. This can be very confusing to anyone that has not been in the military.

So to your statement above, Waltz saying he retired a CSM is an outright lie, saying he served as a CSM is true. Now just because the Harris/Waltz campaign has changed Waltz's bio on their website does not change the fact that he has been saying he retired a CSM for years. This may not sound like a big deal, but to those that have served, it can be a huge deal, to others that have served maybe not so much.
Maybe saying Waltz was the "acting" CSM of his battalion may make it a bit more understandable.
 
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Well, that's a very reasonable and understandable explanation, Gundog. Thanks for the respect.

I did serve, BTW, just not is a way that would inform me of the glitch with Walz.

I'm not on your case, playing with words and such.

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"Maybe saying Waltz was the "acting" CSM of his battalion may make it a bit more understandable."

They claimed he "served" as CSM, which apparently is true. That's different in my understanding of the words. "Acting" to me implies pretending. Serving is not pretending.

I do know what you mean, in context, acting is serving in the capacity of the rank claimed.

Anyway, I think making a big deal out of it is being indignant over smoke. 
 


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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

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There ya go again, with the name calling.

Clue = that's acknowledgment that you've already lost the argument.

It's just one of the tricks.


No names called


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Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
He didn't say, nor did the Harris campaign say he "earned" it.

Say that's a fact.

You are playing word games, again.


Stolen valor, approved by Kevin.


Who's Kevin?

Perhaps you mean Karen's brother?


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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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That's different in my understanding of the words. "Acting" to me implies pretending. Serving is not pretending.

 


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You utter lack of understanding of the process is causing your blockage.


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That's different in my understanding of the words. "Acting" to me implies pretending. Serving is not pretending.

 


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You utter lack of understanding of the process is causing your blockage.


For once, we agree. Wink

I utterly don't understand how some NEED affirmation so much that they make a big deal out of misstatements and nothing burgers, and the process of rationalizations in a steady stream, especially when reasonable explanations are presented.

But I can understand and recognize when it happens.

We all misstate stuff sometimes. But that's not what is representative of character.

Something that IS a reflection on character, IMO, is needing and valuing affirmation more than objectivity and reasonableness.


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1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

Per my far-right friend: "reality sucks"

D.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr. Qualifications: flatulence - mental, oral and anal.



 
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What’s good for the goose…. I wrote the word “foible” and then looked at the definition thereof to make sure it was more than a little appropriate. I then, so advised, continued its use, with complete confidence that the mentally competent readers (including Mike and you) would recognize Kamala and Walz have no sword except the weakness of mind they posses and the stupidity of their flock of useful idiot sheep.



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Everyone already knows Trump’s foibles.



"Foible is a noun that means a minor flaw or shortcoming in character or behavior, or the weakest part of a sword."

That's an interesting and revealing word choice.


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That's different in my understanding of the words. "Acting" to me implies pretending. Serving is not pretending.

 


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You utter lack of understanding of the process is causing your blockage.


For once, we agree. Wink

I utterly don't understand how some NEED affirmation so much that they make a big deal out of misstatements and nothing burgers, and the process of rationalizations in a steady stream, especially when reasonable explanations are presented.

But I can understand and recognize when it happens.

We all misstate stuff sometimes. But that's not what is representative of character.

Something that IS a reflection on character, IMO, is needing and valuing affirmation more than objectivity and reasonableness.


Acting in this context refers to an assignment to a position. Gov Walz was assigned the role of CSM. He was given time duties of a CSM. remain in that assigned role he had to go to the academy and complete that training. He did not. Thus, when he retired he retired as a Master Sergeant which was his fully vested pay rank. How long between being assigned the duties of a CSM and retiring? I do not know.

He was not pretending to be anything. Jeff is not saying he was pretending.
 
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What did his unit members say? Are you denying their credibility? I don’t think you or I qualify to do so. Nor of the other Swift Boat capitains’ opinions of “unfit for any command” Kerry.

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That's different in my understanding of the words. "Acting" to me implies pretending. Serving is not pretending.

 


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You utter lack of understanding of the process is causing your blockage.


For once, we agree. Wink

I utterly don't understand how some NEED affirmation so much that they make a big deal out of misstatements and nothing burgers, and the process of rationalizations in a steady stream, especially when reasonable explanations are presented.

But I can understand and recognize when it happens.

We all misstate stuff sometimes. But that's not what is representative of character.

Something that IS a reflection on character, IMO, is needing and valuing affirmation more than objectivity and reasonableness.


Acting in this context refers to an assignment to a position. Gov Walz was assigned the role of CSM. He was given time duties of a CSM. remain in that assigned role he had to go to the academy and complete that training. He did not. Thus, when he retired he retired as a Master Sergeant which was his fully vested pay rank. How long between being assigned the duties of a CSM and retiring? I do not know.

He was not pretending to be anything. Jeff is not saying he was pretending.


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Uh? Not sure what you are saying.

What I stated is the position of the National Guard. How do I know that, they released a statement on the matter up in Minnesota.

It is not disputed he was assigned the temp task of a CSM.
 
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You haven’t seen or heard Walz's unit members trashing him? J D Vance has been downright kind to Walz compared to his peers.

I know the media your rely upon surpresses truths about Socialists and Progressives, but damn. His units members are all over the internet making public statements like “traitor” and that comment was by his unit Chaplain. What a kick in the balls.


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It looks to me like you are really pleased and satisfied with yourself for disparaging and demeaning the military service of a patriot.

It looks to me like you are contradicting yourself. On the one hand you say you support and respect vets and warriors regardless of their foibles, yet because of his political affiliation, righteously disrespect another vet who served honorably.

To really get this into perspective, let's step back a bit and look at the bigger scene as to who you support. It's really the twisted flip side which is the motive for these shameful self-righteous moral rationalizations.

Anyway, here's advice that I'm gonna take:

https://youtu.be/lCukcAeqdRs?s...z9yO_69s4oOPYN&t=892

Fact-Check that fucker

https://youtu.be/Qab007BtkDM?si=Wlm4zB4o_MhJ3d4W

Jesse Ventura calls JD Vance's criticism of Walz's military record ‘despicable’


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Earnest, I wonder what your military brothers think about Trump's comments that the Presidential Medal of Freedom is "better" than the Medal of Honor. You want to talk about despicable. Rush Limbaugh as opposed to Audie Murphy? But we have always known that Trump has little regard for those that served. Why some of them seem to give a shit about Trump is a mystery to me.

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Jesse Ventura is also a stolen valor type.

His service in Vietnam was as a frogman, not a seal. They did the same BUD/S initial training back then, but were different.

His whole thing was he was a SEAL because the Navy changed how they kept specialties after he was out of active duty, but before he formally separated from the service so his DD214 says naval special warfare.

Not too many SEALs think that highly of Ventura from what I’ve heard.

I fully agree the commentary about Walz and his retirement/ service history is rather “thin gruel” as MJines puts it, but factually Walz overstated his military service. He used it to make himself seem more highly qualified than he actually is. His actual service is more than we have had for some time, so is his overreach on claims a bigger deal than not having the experience at all? While I don’t personally think so, it is a sign that the facts are malleable to him.
 
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How many days did Trump serve!

In a war zone??

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New product Trump brand on the market:

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I did not serve in the military.
Saeed how many years did you serve?
How many of the U.S. politicians over 60 served?
How many other politicians had deferments?
 
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