As usual I could well be wrong.
Recently here we discussed Trumps deployment of the National Guard in D.C. and it was almost universally condemned.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/17...ew-mexico-deployment

So now that a liberal governor has deployed the National Guard in a liberal state, is it Totalitarian/ Authoritarian or justified?

Mike and Mike, what do you have to say?

Very sad indeed!

This would never have happened if decent laws were applied instead of letting criminals get away with anything!

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Very sad indeed!

This would never have happened if decent laws were applied instead of letting criminals get away with anything!

That's a fact. I appreciate the differences between D.C. and New Mexico, local law enforcement did not ask for military assistance in D.C. but in New Mexico they did.

Regardless, in either case, was Humvees on the streets and soldiers with m4's really necessary or required?

As I mentioned other place, Eisenhower thought the army should be used in Little Rock.

It basically tells you the failure of law and order.

Fire every single politician!

Send them to live in a homemade cabin in Alaska!

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Originally posted by Scott King:

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Very sad indeed!

This would never have happened if decent laws were applied instead of letting criminals get away with anything!

That's a fact. I appreciate the differences between D.C. and New Mexico, local law enforcement did not ask for military assistance in D.C. but in New Mexico they did.

Regardless, in either case, was Humvees on the streets and soldiers with m4's really necessary or required?

As I mentioned other place, Eisenhower thought the army should be used in Little Rock.

You answered your own question. The difference is that the state authorities asked for the help. trump's action on DC (like every other crazy thing he is doing right now) is designed to divert attention from the Epstein scandal.

This is a distinction with a difference.

"Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham’s state of emergency order issued for Rio Arriba County, the city of Española and area pueblos, was made at the request of the local governments, she said."

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Originally posted by Scott King:
As usual I could well be wrong.
Recently here we discussed Trumps deployment of the National Guard in D.C. and it was almost universally condemned.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/17...ew-mexico-deployment

So now that a liberal governor has deployed the National Guard in a liberal state, is it Totalitarian/ Authoritarian or justified?

Mike and Mike, what do you have to say?

National Guards are not the Army.

There is federal law that prevents the regular army from being used for policing.

State governors retain the right in limited circumstances to deploy their states’ National Guards within the state.

National Guards are the modern evolution of the old state militia’s referenced on the 2nd Amendment and a few S. Ct., cases. Historically, before modernization the state militias were exclusively controlled by state governors.

There are fed laws that dictate the federalization of a state’s national guard.

The DC Guard is unique. It was created as a federal entity under control of the President as Commander and Chief. DC is not a state and does not have to protections of a state.

I have provided these laws previously.

Bad policy can be constitutional.

A governor deploying their state’s National Guard is governed by that state’s State Constitution and state law.

The Governor’s action may be legal, but bad policy. The Governor’s action might be in violation of state law. This is unlikely. We would have to go through the state’s controlling law.