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Ukraine (again)
Ukraine (again)
Trump seems to pull figures out of the air on the amount of US support so far provided to Ukraine. A few days ago he said $300 billion, yesterday it was $350 billion ...
The Kiel Institute puts the number at $119 billion and the US defence Dept puts it at $182 billion when the cost of US military training in Europe and the cost of replenishing US arms stocks are added in.
So has anyone got any idea where this $350 billion comes from, or is it just a figment of Trumps imagination and a good hefty chunk of money which will galvanise his support base?
17 March 2025, 21:08
SaeedWhat difference does it make?
Putin is kicking NATO arse!
17 March 2025, 21:09
MJinesI think Trump has brain farts, unfortunately the farts come out of his mouth. It is hard to ascertain whether they are lies, misstatements, or make believe.
Mike
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Originally posted by Saeed:
What difference does it make?
Putin is kicking NATO arse!
Actually his 3 day war in Ukraine has claimed 1 million casualties on his side. Russia got it's ass kicked in Afghanistan and now again in Ukraine.
What NATO lost is the US now that a russian agent has taken over the White House.
17 March 2025, 21:54
Magine EnigamJapan to help UK deter Putin with peacekeeping force in Ukraine
Story by Jane Merrick • 23h • 4 min read
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...c0816372d80cec&ei=16Russia Responds To Plan for Peacekeepers in Ukraine
Story by Isabel van Brugen • 4h • 3 min read
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...c0816372d80cec&ei=51A quick Western win over Putin is there for the taking, if we dare
Story by Ivana Stradner • 1h • 3 min read
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https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news...UBC?ocid=socialsharePutin's 'secret plan' revealed as he has 'no intention of saying yes to peace deal'
Story by Dan Grennan • 4d • 2 min read
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17 March 2025, 23:07
shanksponyIt might be interesting for some to see how it's being reported over here. Especially the focus on the US "absence"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhLcwEGW6ZYIt must be worrying the Russians as twitter is suddenly full of accounts linked Nz by name or reference with tweets like-
"Luxon dosnt speak for New Zealanders"
and
"Who gave Luxon permission to allow New Zealand to conscript its sons to die in Ukraine."
Setting them straight just leads too references to Banderas.
This is big when Japan talks about taking a military role outside of its borders.
18 March 2025, 00:56
medvedyes the world need to stands up but who cares about twitter ...
Interesting, thx for posting.
Id have no problems with putting UK troops in as peacekeeping. Putin might object but he doesn't get to dictate - his troops are there illegally.
18 March 2025, 03:42
jdollarquote:
Originally posted by DRG:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
What difference does it make?
Putin is kicking NATO arse!
Actually his 3 day war in Ukraine has claimed 1 million casualties on his side. Russia got it's ass kicked in Afghanistan and now again in Ukraine.
What NATO lost is the US now that a russian agent has taken over the White House.
THIS^^^^^ Russia can’t kick Ukraine’s ass, much less NATO. He has been trying for 3 years with little to show for it. Sort of reminds me of the UAE failure to stop the Houthis- although they’ve done a fine job of buying them off….
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Id have no problems with putting UK troops in as peacekeeping.
Sign up! I'm sure they'd be happy to send you!
18 March 2025, 08:26
Saeedquote:
Originally posted by JTEX:
quote:
Id have no problems with putting UK troops in as peacekeeping.
Sign up! I'm sure they'd be happy to send you!
Did THE MAGA ARSEHOLE serve his country?
Oh, I forgot.
CADET BONE SPURS wimped out!
And got rewarded by being appointed CnC of the armed forces!
So no one has anything on which Trump might be basing his claims of $350 billion?
Obviously he must have access to as much briefing on the subject as he wants, so either he’s just lying, or he isn’t clever enough to remember what he’s been told.
18 March 2025, 17:25
Saeedquote:
Originally posted by nute:
So no one has anything on which Trump might be basing his claims of $350 billion?
Obviously he must have access to as much briefing on the subject as he wants, so either he’s just lying, or he isn’t clever enough to remember what he’s been told.
THE MAGA ARSEHOLE never to;dither truth.
EVER.
Well, may be when he was with Epstein
Trump seems to think that the survivors of the first holomodor will go with whatever he and Putin decide.
I idly wonder about this...
TomP
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Originally posted by TomP:
Trump seems to think that the survivors of the first holomodor will go with whatever he and Putin decide.
I idly wonder about this...
Trump is doing his level best to force them to do wha5 he says by taking away or shutting off the functionality of the tools Ukraine needs to defend itself.
19 March 2025, 13:21
shanksponyMeanwhile Putin publicly jokes about keeping Trump waiting, and then the outcome is a nothing burger of delay.
No cease fire or other path to peace was possible whilst Ukraine held a chunk of Russian ground in Kursk.
Trump has hamstrung Ukraine sufficiently for Putin to be able to evict Ukraine from its territory. Vlad needed enough time to accomplish that so he is in no hurry.