https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/21...-analysis/index.html

He's a DINO (Democrat In Name Only), just another "crazie" peddling lies and bullshit.

All those steroids have fried his brain.

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
All those steroids have fried his brain.

It's quite funny how he's another Hunter Biden when it comes to trading off a family's name or using drugs.

Yet, republicans love him.

Twisted sense of values the GOP has now.

One thing that I will say for the democrats, with the way you guys eat your own, there is no way the Democratic Party will allow a trump like rogue to crash the party.

Nader
Sanders
Gabbard
RFK

The Republicans might want to take a page out of your playbook.

But I’m not sure that Gore/HRC/Biden are the quality of candidates that we deserve.

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Originally posted by JBrown:
One thing that I will say for the democrats, with the way you guys eat your own, there is no way the Democratic Party will allow a trump like rogue to crash the party.

Nader
Sanders
Gabbard
RFK

The Republicans might want to take a page out of your playbook.

But I’m not sure that Gore/HRC/Biden are the quality of candidates that we deserve.

Gee whiz, you did not exactly pick four mainstream Democrats with your examples. Nader has never been a traditional Democrat, Sanders is a Democratic Socialist, Both Gabbard and RFK are bat shit crazy.

The GOP does a fine job of eating its own, just sit back and watch the primary develop while those running lose all measure of credibility as they kowtow to the orange buffon. It is happening already as they make their case that he should not be held accountable for J 6th. They will nominate Trump again, is he the quality of candidate America deserves?

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
All those steroids have fried his brain.

You got some proof for that accusation, right?

quote:

Originally posted by skb:

Gee whiz, you did not exactly pick four mainstream Democrats with your examples. Nader has never been a traditional Democrat, Sanders is a Democratic Socialist, Both Gabbard and RFK are bat shit crazy.

The GOP does a fine job of eating its own, just sit back and watch the primary develop while those running lose all measure of credibility as they kowtow to the orange buffon. It is happening already as they make their case that he should not be held accountable for J 6th. They will nominate Trump again, is he the quality of candidate America deserves?

Dang SKB, even when you and I agree, you find reason to be disagreeable!


That was my point: if a non mainstream democrat gets some momentum, the party cuts them down. Case in point: Sanders was poised to defeat Hillary and the party put a “super delegate” stop to it.

And yes, the republican candidates do cannibalize themselves, but the party itself is not nearly as adept. Hell, they don’t even have superdelegates…

Trump gaining the nomination against the party’s wishes in 2016 is proof of that.

*I agree with your assessment of RDK/Sanders/Nadar, but why do you say that Gabbard is “batshit crazy”? As I recall the party smeared her as an “Assad toadie”, but otherwise she seems like solid.

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
All those steroids have fried his brain.

You got some proof for that accusation, right?

Ann,

Isn’t the photo of a jacked 70 year old enough to make you believe that he is on steroids/HGH?

https://twitter.com/ryan__cald...p-workout.html

That’s like asking for proof that Hunter Biden is a drug addict…

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/res...6KKCWYJALEL2ZACY.jpg

MM, thats one of the dumbest things you have ever said.
He looks like a man his age who eats healthy, works out and has decent genetics.
Instead of shitting on him for no reason, more people should take note. People do not have to have all the health issues at any age they do, if you take care of yourself.

quote:

Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

quote:

Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
All those steroids have fried his brain.

You got some proof for that accusation, right?

Since when do you require proof of anything?

quote:

Originally posted by theback40:
MM, thats one of the dumbest things you have ever said.
He looks like a man his age who eats healthy, works out and has decent genetics.
Instead of shitting on him for no reason, more people should take note. People do not have to have all the health issues at any age they do, if you take care of yourself.

And, who uses steroid variants.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/he...-legal-steroids.html

He's a fuckin' nut. And, you may be right. But, I doubt it. Very very very few 70 year olds look like him without some artificial assistance.

And, I'm not shitting on him for no reason. I'm shitting on him because he is crazy and he says crazy harmful things. There is exactly one reason why he is a person of interest in US politics and I'll give you one guess why.


And, that is far from the dumbest thing I've ever said. Go back and review.

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Originally posted by JBrown:
One thing that I will say for the democrats, with the way you guys eat your own, there is no way the Democratic Party will allow a trump like rogue to crash the party.

Nader
Sanders
Gabbard
RFK

The Republicans might want to take a page out of your playbook.

But I’m not sure that Gore/HRC/Biden are the quality of candidates that we deserve.

If it wasn’t for Trump, Biden would never have got in!

If it wasn't for Hillary, trump would never have got in.

This sort of statement is an endless loop.

quote:

Originally posted by JBrown:

quote:

Originally posted by skb:

Gee whiz, you did not exactly pick four mainstream Democrats with your examples. Nader has never been a traditional Democrat, Sanders is a Democratic Socialist, Both Gabbard and RFK are bat shit crazy.

The GOP does a fine job of eating its own, just sit back and watch the primary develop while those running lose all measure of credibility as they kowtow to the orange buffon. It is happening already as they make their case that he should not be held accountable for J 6th. They will nominate Trump again, is he the quality of candidate America deserves?

Dang SKB, even when you and I agree, you find reason to be disagreeable!


That was my point: if a non mainstream democrat gets some momentum, the party cuts them down. Case in point: Sanders was poised to defeat Hillary and the party put a “super delegate” stop to it.

And yes, the republican candidates do cannibalize themselves, but the party itself is not nearly as adept. Hell, they don’t even have superdelegates…

Trump gaining the nomination against the party’s wishes in 2016 is proof of that.

*I agree with your assessment of RDK/Sanders/Nadar, but why do you say that Gabbard is “batshit crazy”? As I recall the party smeared her as an “Assad toadie”, but otherwise she seems like solid.

You do not strike me as the type to surround yourself with "yes men" Jason, just doing my part playing the Devil's advocate Besides, have you ever know an old gray haired gunsmith that was not a curmudgeon? I can't besmirch my whole field by not living up to our standards that took decades if not centuries to establish

Gabbard is now repeating Alex Jones' nutjob conspiracy theories, the definition of bat shit crazy.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/d...ine/?sh=522e4275522d

There are numerous natural supplements that boost testosterone. L-arginine being one.
They are not the same as anabolic steroids that athletes are tested and banned from. Not sure why you want to lump them together.
I dont listen to him, no idea how crazy he is or is not. I dont bash a man or woman for being healthy though.

quote:

Originally posted by theback40:
There are numerous natural supplements that boost testosterone. L-arginine being one.
They are not the same as anabolic steroids that athletes are tested and banned from. Not sure why you want to lump them together.
I dont listen to him, no idea how crazy he is or is not. I dont bash a man or woman for being healthy though.

I don't give a shit if he gobbles steroids like popcorn. He's a fucking nut and that's why I'm bashing him.

quote:

Originally posted by theback40:
There are numerous natural supplements that boost testosterone. L-arginine being one.
They are not the same as anabolic steroids that athletes are tested and banned from. Not sure why you want to lump them together.
I dont listen to him, no idea how crazy he is or is not. I dont bash a man or woman for being healthy though.

He is on record as using TRT.

I lump steroids and TRT together because they are often used for the same purpose.

quote:

Originally posted by skb:
Gabbard is now repeating Alex Jones' nutjob conspiracy theories, the definition of bat shit crazy.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/d...ine/?sh=522e4275522d

SKB,

I believe this is a perfect example of what I was talking about. As far as I can see, Gabbard never mentioned bio “weapons” labs, which was the false part of Alex Jones conspiracy theory.

She mentioned the bio labs that we are funding, and the WHO has warned are a potential target for Russia.

From Newsweek:

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Gabbard's comments came after the the World Health Organization advised Kyiv to destroy high-threat pathogens being stored in their labs to prevent any possibility of a dangerous outbreak if the facilities are attacked by Russia.

Although there are bio labs in Ukraine researching deadly pathogens in order to prevent the production of weapons capable of being used in germ warfare, or studying how to respond to outbreaks such as COVID-19, there is no evidence that they are being used to manufacture biological weapons.

The Department of Defense confirmed earlier this month that the U.S. has invested $200 million in Ukraine since 2005 to support 46 Ukrainian laboratories and their research into disease threats as part of the Biological Threat Reduction Program, which involves former Soviet Union countries.

The BBC’s reporting agreed with this, as did the Forbes article you posted:

quote:

In a two-minute video posted to her Twitter Sunday morning, Gabbard said there are 25 to 30 American-funded biological laboratories in Ukraine and called for an immediate ceasefire at the laboratories as they could spread dangerous pathogens.

Gabbard’s concern about the spread of pathogens is supported by fact—the World Health Organization called for Ukraine to destroy high-threat pathogens this week to prevent the spread of disease if a laboratory is attacked—but there’s no evidence of the U.S. supporting biological labs in Ukraine and the U.S. has consistently denied doing so.

Gabbard’s comments notably give apparent credibility to a particularly dangerous Russian-backed conspiracy theory.

I’m having trouble understanding how her comments “give apparent credibility” to the Russian/Alex Jones conspiracy. I have to wonder why they are being painted that way.

If anything it seems like she is parroting the WHO.

If you listen to her actual twitter post, at the end she goes on to tie it all to the Wu Han lab and gain of function testing claiming that all 300 biolabs that the US funds in the world must be shut down for the safety of the planet.

https://twitter.com/TulsiGabba.../1502960938147729413

Sounds about as exaggerated as the world will end in 7 years due to climate change.

I stand by my earlier assertion that Gabbard is bat shit crazy.

There seems to be support for the theory that Covid originated in the Wuhan lab. This theory is further supported by the fact that the US has ceased funding the lab.

Gabbard parrots the WHO and says that Ukrainian labs should be shut down so that Russia can’t bomb them. Then adds that the other 300 labs worldwide should be shut down.

(Does 300 bio labs sounds like 300 potential origins for the next pandemic to anyone else?)

She may be wrong, but it seems like a reasonable topic for discussion.

I’m missing something, that you aren’t. How is her assertion “batshit crazy”.

quote:

Originally posted by JBrown:
There seems to be support for the theory that Covid originated in the Wuhan lab. This theory is further supported by the fact that the US has ceased funding the lab.

Gabbard parrots the WHO and says that Ukrainian labs should be shut down so that Russia can’t bomb them. Then adds that the other 300 labs worldwide should be shut down.

(Does 300 bio labs sounds like 300 potential origins for the next pandemic to anyone else?)

She may be wrong, but it seems like a reasonable topic for discussion.

I’m missing something, that you aren’t. How is her assertion “batshit crazy”.

Agree it's a reasonable topic for discussion. Disagree that Tulsi Gabbard should be touted as support in relation to having the discussion. She's batshit crazy.

Mike,
I’m not disagreeing with you, but I am interested to hear why you say that she is batshit crazy. I ask because I have heard that a lot, but I’ve never seen anything from her that would support that. She honestly seems more real and down to earth than most of the people we see running for president.

And I’m not talking “Jewish space lasers” crazy, I mean that I haven’t seen anything that makes her seem “off”.

BTW, her record on gun control and gay rights eliminates the possibility that I would back her. I just can’t wrap my head around the blowback that she gets.

quote:

Originally posted by JBrown:
There seems to be support for the theory that Covid originated in the Wuhan lab. This theory is further supported by the fact that the US has ceased funding the lab.

Gabbard parrots the WHO and says that Ukrainian labs should be shut down so that Russia can’t bomb them. Then adds that the other 300 labs worldwide should be shut down.

(Does 300 bio labs sounds like 300 potential origins for the next pandemic to anyone else?)

She may be wrong, but it seems like a reasonable topic for discussion.

I’m missing something, that you aren’t. How is her assertion “batshit crazy”.

Sort of like throwing the baby out with the bath water if you ask me. Countless lives have been saved from the knowledge learned through the research done at biolabs, closing them all seem to have zero basis in science. It sounds much more like a kneejerk reaction that a well thought out plan of action to me.

Here she is doing her very best to parrot Tucker Carlson talking points, Trump is not the problem but it is the fact that he is being held responsible for his actions that is the problem.

Bat Shit Crazy.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-t...rump-instagram-post/

2 Kennedys keep coming up in the news.

Both are IDIOTS!

quote:

Originally posted by theback40:
MM, thats one of the dumbest things you have ever said.
He looks like a man his age who eats healthy, works out and has decent genetics.
Instead of shitting on him for no reason, more people should take note. People do not have to have all the health issues at any age they do, if you take care of yourself.

Just look at the Chicken fried steak thread and thats all the proof you need. Americans, by and large eat like shit.

They drink too much booze, eat far to much in volume, fat, processed and packaged food.

I'm 62, eat right exercise daily (40 year Cyclist) and am 46 years old metabolically. Age does not necessarily mean you cannot look like he does.

When you have time and money and you choose to spend said time on your body, effort equals results.

I've been on tracking hunts (LDE specifically) that we had to march all day on track, almost never stopping. My fitness has always been an asset in my hunting. Specially mountain hunts for sheep/goats etc.

The Democrat party is just afraid of him.

quote:

Originally posted by Steve Ahrenberg:

quote:

Originally posted by theback40:
MM, thats one of the dumbest things you have ever said.
He looks like a man his age who eats healthy, works out and has decent genetics.
Instead of shitting on him for no reason, more people should take note. People do not have to have all the health issues at any age they do, if you take care of yourself.

Just look at the Chicken fried steak thread and thats all the proof you need. Americans, by and large eat like shit.

They drink too much booze, eat far to much in volume, fat, processed and packaged food.

I'm 62, eat right exercise daily (40 year Cyclist) and am 46 years old metabolically. Age does not necessarily mean you cannot look like he does.

When you have time and money and you choose to spend said time on your body, effort equals results.

I've been on tracking hunts (LDE specifically) that we had to march all day on track, almost never stopping. My fitness has always been an asset in my hunting. Specially mountain hunts for sheep/goats etc.

The Democrat party is just afraid of him.

It is not that fact that RFK is fit and healthy that make people think he is bat shit crazy, it is the conspiracy theories.

Bat shit crazy is shutting down biolabs in countries that have the trained workforce and the regulations that make them safe, and moving them to corrupt/centrally controlled countries that don't care about the downside risks if a mistake happens.

I've said before that I think our banning gain of function research was a msitake by our government... but utilizing a chicom biolab to do our banned research is even more so.

So what exactly is batshit crazy here? I tend to agree that her politics are crazy, but just because you are crazy in one area doesn't mean everything you state is.

quote:

Originally posted by skb:

quote:

Originally posted by JBrown:
There seems to be support for the theory that Covid originated in the Wuhan lab. This theory is further supported by the fact that the US has ceased funding the lab.

Gabbard parrots the WHO and says that Ukrainian labs should be shut down so that Russia can’t bomb them. Then adds that the other 300 labs worldwide should be shut down.

(Does 300 bio labs sounds like 300 potential origins for the next pandemic to anyone else?)

She may be wrong, but it seems like a reasonable topic for discussion.

I’m missing something, that you aren’t. How is her assertion “batshit crazy”.

Sort of like throwing the baby out with the bath water if you ask me. Countless lives have been saved from the knowledge learned through the research done at biolabs, closing them all seem to have zero basis in science. It sounds much more like a kneejerk reaction that a well thought out plan of action to me.

Here she is doing her very best to parrot Tucker Carlson talking points, Trump is not the problem but it is the fact that he is being held responsible for his actions that is the problem.

Bat Shit Crazy.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-t...rump-instagram-post/

If he's on record as using TRT and looks like that, he's doing something that is not in the mainstream medically.

Testosterone replacement isn't supposed to give a 60 year old the testosterone levels of a 30-something gym rat.

Most of the heavy exerciser folks I know that are older look fit and in shape, but they sure don't look like a body builder.

Anyone who can spend the amount of time RFK Jr. does in the public limelight and looks like that... well, I doubt its "natural."

Testosterone IS an anabolic steroid.

Aging is normal.

Where do you draw the line of replacement vs. supplement?

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Originally posted by JBrown:

quote:

Originally posted by theback40:
There are numerous natural supplements that boost testosterone. L-arginine being one.
They are not the same as anabolic steroids that athletes are tested and banned from. Not sure why you want to lump them together.
I dont listen to him, no idea how crazy he is or is not. I dont bash a man or woman for being healthy though.

He is on record as using TRT.

I lump steroids and TRT together because they are often used for the same purpose.

I would expect it's both TRT and hGh - he is buit like the geezer from the 80s magazine ads

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Originally posted by crbutler:
If he's on record as using TRT and looks like that, he's doing something that is not in the mainstream medically.

Testosterone replacement isn't supposed to give a 60 year old the testosterone levels of a 30-something gym rat.

Most of the heavy exerciser folks I know that are older look fit and in shape, but they sure don't look like a body builder.

Anyone who can spend the amount of time RFK Jr. does in the public limelight and looks like that... well, I doubt its "natural."

Testosterone IS an anabolic steroid.

Aging is normal.

Where do you draw the line of replacement vs. supplement?

quote:

Originally posted by JBrown:

quote:

Originally posted by theback40:
There are numerous natural supplements that boost testosterone. L-arginine being one.
They are not the same as anabolic steroids that athletes are tested and banned from. Not sure why you want to lump them together.
I dont listen to him, no idea how crazy he is or is not. I dont bash a man or woman for being healthy though.

He is on record as using TRT.

I lump steroids and TRT together because they are often used for the same purpose.

I've known of several men who have taken TRT. Only the ones who work out look like Mr. Kennedy. The rest look the same as they have always looked. So it appears to me that it is not a magic pill that turns you 'buff' just because you are prescribed the substance.

Also, the media seems to be littered with stories of most men being 'low T' in these current times. I have wondered if that is why many of the teen boys and young men I see are chubby, booby, softies following their mommy around the supermarket?

The overall low T thing is a consequence of the aging of the population.

The soft, fat kids are a result of diet, exercise lack, and our electronic entertainment culture more than some mystic loss of testosterone.

As to the six pack appearance- taking high dose testosterone replacement (ie boosting levels to what is seen in the teens) does increase muscle bulk and reduce fat. If a normal 60 year old hits the gym daily and does high weight/low rep exercise he gets some bulk but doesn’t get the bodybuilder type bulk increase and definition. You need both higher testosterone levels and exercise to get that.

Go look at Schwarzenegger now. He’s still working out all the time, but what happened to his bull and level of definition?

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Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
If he's on record as using TRT and looks like that, he's doing something that is not in the mainstream medically.

Testosterone replacement isn't supposed to give a 60 year old the testosterone levels of a 30-something gym rat.

Most of the heavy exerciser folks I know that are older look fit and in shape, but they sure don't look like a body builder.

Anyone who can spend the amount of time RFK Jr. does in the public limelight and looks like that... well, I doubt its "natural."

Testosterone IS an anabolic steroid.

Aging is normal.

Where do you draw the line of replacement vs. supplement?

quote:

Originally posted by JBrown:

quote:

Originally posted by theback40:
There are numerous natural supplements that boost testosterone. L-arginine being one.
They are not the same as anabolic steroids that athletes are tested and banned from. Not sure why you want to lump them together.
I dont listen to him, no idea how crazy he is or is not. I dont bash a man or woman for being healthy though.

He is on record as using TRT.

I lump steroids and TRT together because they are often used for the same purpose.

I've known of several men who have taken TRT. Only the ones who work out look like Mr. Kennedy. The rest look the same as they have always looked. So it appears to me that it is not a magic pill that turns you 'buff' just because you are prescribed the substance.

Also, the media seems to be littered with stories of most men being 'low T' in these current times. I have wondered if that is why many of the teen boys and young men I see are chubby, booby, softies following their mommy around the supermarket?

Genetics is a big factor you are leaving out.

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Originally posted by theback40:
Genetics is a big factor you are leaving out.

Are you implying that the Kennedy jeans explain how a nearly 70yo RFK looks like a 35 yo bodybuilder? He is on record as using TRT.

Yes, genetics do play some role.

Some guys have a higher natural testosterone level (not that it justifies replacement hormones to that point) and some build bulk easier than others… but overall, even for a 20 year old to have the physique shown in those photos he needs to be paying attention to diet and exercising regularly. For a septuagenarian, it requires significant supplementation and work and genetics. How much? The exact numbers involve his genetics. All four elements (exercise level, diet, testosterone supplement, and level of result) are impacted by genetics. Most 70 year olds won’t get that result no matter what exercise they do and what supplements they utilize.

I’m not claiming RFK Jr is having “rhoid rage” to explain his behavior or policies… but his physical appearance along with claimed TRT makes him likely using high levels of supplemental testosterone.

RFK looks nothing like a 35 yr old bodybuilder.
I see an above average gym rat, for his age.
Remember, he was doing a photo shoot. He had pumped before the pictures and most likely dehydrated too.
Even a genetic freak like Ron Coleman didnt look the way he did in competition walking around.
The fellow with the gunshop the next town over is 71. He looks better than RFK. He was an orphan, and the gym nearby was his sanctuary.
He never let it go. He never drank or smoked. His diet is very boring. Cyanide ranks above refined sugar in things he would ingest.
He has a rowing mchine in the backroom and I will stop back to talk while he's doing a little cardio. Even his skin looks good, barely and wrinkles. He has white hair and people think he dies it because they cant believe he is that old. Larry takes some supplements, but nothing doctor prescribed or illegal.
A 68 yr old gym owner who lives nearby looks as good as RFK. He has the wrinkles and sagging skin, but better arm definition than RFK. Again supplements, but diet and everyday workouts being the main part.

The dog barks at what he does not understand.

Theback40, you very well could be right.

I grew up going to Jimmy Payne’s gym in the 1980s. Jimmy had been Mr. America in 1950(Obit)

Anyway, Jimmy was in his mid 60s at the time I met him and he looked as good or better than RFK. He could also do one handed, hand stand push-ups while balancing on an elevated stand. He had never taken steroids. He was one of the last of the natural bodybuilders to be pushed out at the beginning of the steroid era.

So, I agree that it is possible. My initial reaction was prejudiced because I had heard that he has mentioned using TRT.

quote:

Originally posted by crbutler:
Bat shit crazy is shutting down biolabs in countries that have the trained workforce and the regulations that make them safe, and moving them to corrupt/centrally controlled countries that don't care about the downside risks if a mistake happens.

I've said before that I think our banning gain of function research was a msitake by our government... but utilizing a chicom biolab to do our banned research is even more so.

So what exactly is batshit crazy here? I tend to agree that her politics are crazy, but just because you are crazy in one area doesn't mean everything you state is.

quote:

Originally posted by skb:

quote:

Originally posted by JBrown:
There seems to be support for the theory that Covid originated in the Wuhan lab. This theory is further supported by the fact that the US has ceased funding the lab.

Gabbard parrots the WHO and says that Ukrainian labs should be shut down so that Russia can’t bomb them. Then adds that the other 300 labs worldwide should be shut down.

(Does 300 bio labs sounds like 300 potential origins for the next pandemic to anyone else?)

She may be wrong, but it seems like a reasonable topic for discussion.

I’m missing something, that you aren’t. How is her assertion “batshit crazy”.

Sort of like throwing the baby out with the bath water if you ask me. Countless lives have been saved from the knowledge learned through the research done at biolabs, closing them all seem to have zero basis in science. It sounds much more like a kneejerk reaction that a well thought out plan of action to me.

Here she is doing her very best to parrot Tucker Carlson talking points, Trump is not the problem but it is the fact that he is being held responsible for his actions that is the problem.

Bat Shit Crazy.

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-t...rump-instagram-post/

Who in his/her right mind would put a Level 4 pathogen lab in the same labor pool with one that is only a Level 2 (Wuhan)?

Why did we move the Plum Island Level 4 pathogen lab to Manhattan Kansas?

RFK Jr is a black swan, a rebellious Democrat with the name. This could get interesting...

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Originally posted by TomP:

RFK Jr is a black swan, a rebellious Democrat with the name. This could get interesting...

For all the reasons you listed, it should get interesting, but it won’t.

The democratic party has proven to be very adept at burying any democratic candidate who is the least bit rebellious.

The party of the people has “super delegates”, which help them to avoid allowing their voters to nominate those unruly candidates. But they don’t actually need them because a few whispered rumors are enough to taint any candidate enough to kill their campaign, if not their career.

It doesn’t hurt that they seem to have the media backing their decisions and refusing to cover the unruly ones.

https://www.thoughtco.com/what...rienced%20candidates.

quote:

So, the party created superdelegates in 1984 as a way to prevent the future nominations of candidates considered by its elite members to be unelectable. Superdelegates are designed to act as a check on ideologically extreme or inexperienced candidates.

Kinda ironic that the democratic party has a built in safeguard against the democratic process.

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Originally posted by JBrown:

Kinda ironic that the democratic party has a built in safeguard against the democratic process.

Longish interview, left me with the impression that the interviewer was reading questions from a list her boss gave her...

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...rat-party-plantation

Is that a Carhartt shirt...?