The same could be said about the ARPF

18 August 2025, 15:33

quote:
Mollie Hemingway:
The degree to which our national media seem to actively cheer against the president of the United States in a summit with a foreign power is astounding.

There is nearly no precedent for it apart from Trump’s first term. It is hopeless Trump Derangement Syndrome and an indictment of how broken, corrupt, and literally the enemy of the American people the majority of the national media complex is.

And obviously related, the degree to which our national media seem to actively cheer for more war, death, and destruction is another sign of dangerously sick people who should not be in positions of real power.

https://x.com/mzhemingway/stat...214156991688866?s=46

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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.

18 August 2025, 15:46

Steve Bertram

Ha!

Imagine somebody being against our POTUS doing the work of our enemy

Trump is Putin's stooge, that is why people protest his actions.

Reagan is spinning.....

18 August 2025, 15:58

ledvm

Reagan is spinning alright…for exactly the reasons bolded above.

Putin wreaks havoc under 0bama and Biden. Congress can’t wait to throw money (gasoline) into the war (fire)…to get their industrial military complex kick-backs and donations…and the useful idiots cheer it on.

The fact-of-the-matter is that Trump has not done one thing to help Putin. Meanwhile China and Russia bonds strengthen and even India is enticed join.

18 August 2025, 16:01

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
Reagan is spinning alright…for exactly the reasons bolded above.

Putin wreaks havoc under 0bama and Biden. Congress can’t wait to throw money (gasoline) into the war (fire)…to get their industrial military complex kick-backs and donations…and the useful idiots cheer it on.

The fact-of-the-matter is that Trump has not done one thing to help Putin. Meanwhile China and Russia bonds strengthen and even India is enticed join.

Whatever Putin has ever done, PALES in comparison to all the crimes YOUR government has committed worldwide!

Culminating in you now being used as A PUPPET!

To bomb other countries at the whim of a NAZI!

I wonder how it feels to decent Americans-now??

18 August 2025, 16:04

Steve Bertram

My, my. You are entitled to your own opinion Lane, but facts are facts. It is Trump that is suggesting Ukraine concede to Russia and it is Trump's policies that are pushing India closer to Russia and China. Trump still does not understand who our allies are and who the enemy is....facts. The money spent in Ukraine has been pennies compared to what the BBB added to the deficit.

Russia is the enemy....just like Reagan told us.

18 August 2025, 16:06

Steve Bertram

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
Reagan is spinning alright…for exactly the reasons bolded above.

Putin wreaks havoc under 0bama and Biden. Congress can’t wait to throw money (gasoline) into the war (fire)…to get their industrial military complex kick-backs and donations…and the useful idiots cheer it on.

The fact-of-the-matter is that Trump has not done one thing to help Putin. Meanwhile China and Russia bonds strengthen and even India is enticed join.

Whatever Putin has ever done, PALES in comparison to all the crimes YOUR government has committed worldwide!

Culminating in you now being used as A PUPPET!

To bomb other countries at the whim of a NAZI!

I wonder how it feels to decent Americans-now??

How goes your starving of the Sudanese civilian population? Learn that trick from the Israelis? Somehow your outrage doesn't seem that genuine.

18 August 2025, 18:05

Bill/Oregon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mollie_Hemingway

18 August 2025, 18:19

Mike Mitchell

quote:
Originally posted by ledvm:
Reagan is spinning alright…for exactly the reasons bolded above.

Putin wreaks havoc under 0bama and Biden. Congress can’t wait to throw money (gasoline) into the war (fire)…to get their industrial military complex kick-backs and donations…and the useful idiots cheer it on.

The fact-of-the-matter is that Trump has not done one thing to help Putin. Meanwhile China and Russia bonds strengthen and even India is enticed join.

trump is meeting with Zelensky today to tell him to give part of his country to the Russians you brain-dead nitwit. I'd say that's helping Putin.

18 August 2025, 18:43

Magine Enigam

quote:
Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mollie_Hemingway

IMO, Fox and contributors are very harmful to the country. If you think the ministry of public enlightenment and propaganda is core American, then thank the system for allowing and supporting free thought, belief and speech.

But the messages spewed is not American.

Thanks, Lane, for repeatedly showing us what a True Believer is and does.

We NEED to know, and let it sink in, so we know what we are dealing with.

And we can be thankful for ARPF because it is a venue for expression, and exposure.

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Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

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18 August 2025, 18:57

TomP

I idly wonder if Edmond is still breathing...

18 August 2025, 19:12

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by TomP:
I idly wonder if Edmond is still breathing...

I hope he is and wish him well.

18 August 2025, 19:46

theback40

I know what kabob means
It's not benign, like Maddow telling everyone once they got the shot, they were safe. They couldnt catch covid once vaxed.

18 August 2025, 19:57

ANTELOPEDUNDEE

quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mollie_Hemingway

IMO, Fox and contributors are very harmful to the country. If you think the ministry of public enlightenment and propaganda is core American, then thank the system for allowing and supporting free thought, belief and speech.

But the messages spewed is not American.

Thanks, Lane, for repeatedly showing us what a True Believer is and does.

We NEED to know, and let it sink in, so we know what we are dealing with.

And we can be thankful for ARPF because it is a venue for expression, and exposure.

We offer opinions, we DON'T make policy.

BTW WTF was he doing talking to Putin about our voting system, specifically mail in voting? What does that have to do with the war in Ukraine?

18 August 2025, 20:10

Mike Mitchell

quote:
Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mollie_Hemingway

IMO, Fox and contributors are very harmful to the country. If you think the ministry of public enlightenment and propaganda is core American, then thank the system for allowing and supporting free thought, belief and speech.

But the messages spewed is not American.

Thanks, Lane, for repeatedly showing us what a True Believer is and does.

We NEED to know, and let it sink in, so we know what we are dealing with.

And we can be thankful for ARPF because it is a venue for expression, and exposure.

We offer opinions, we DON'T make policy.

BTW WTF was he doing talking to Putin about our voting system, specifically mail in voting? What does that have to do with the war in Ukraine?

Because Putin tells him he won in 2020 to stroke him. Putin plays him like fiddle.

That's why trump is carrying Putin's water today in his meeting with Zelensky.

18 August 2025, 20:42

ANTELOPEDUNDEE

quote:
Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
quote:
Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
quote:
Originally posted by Bill/Oregon:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mollie_Hemingway

IMO, Fox and contributors are very harmful to the country. If you think the ministry of public enlightenment and propaganda is core American, then thank the system for allowing and supporting free thought, belief and speech.

But the messages spewed is not American.

Thanks, Lane, for repeatedly showing us what a True Believer is and does.

We NEED to know, and let it sink in, so we know what we are dealing with.

And we can be thankful for ARPF because it is a venue for expression, and exposure.

We offer opinions, we DON'T make policy.

BTW WTF was he doing talking to Putin about our voting system, specifically mail in voting? What does that have to do with the war in Ukraine?

Because Putin tells him he won in 2020 to stroke him. Putin plays him like fiddle.

That's why trump is carrying Putin's water today in his meeting with Zelensky.

I'm sorta mixed about wanting him to fail. For one IMO he isn't operting in the best interest/s of Ukraine. If we value their resources we should be behind them 100%.

It was incredibly STUPID of him to brag about being able to end that war in 24 hours. Just a ruse to get votes. Really stupid if you voted for him because of that. Almost as stupid as voting for him because of 34 convictions just to spite the justice system.

18 August 2025, 20:44

JudgeG

I think you’ve got Trump confused with Obama, The Clinton’s, Comey, Garland, et al.

quote:
Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
Ha!

Imagine somebody being against our POTUS doing the work of our enemy

Trump is Putin's stooge, that is why people protest his actions.

Reagan is spinning.....

18 August 2025, 21:29

LongDistanceOperator

quote:
Originally posted by JudgeG:
I think you’ve got Trump confused with Obama, The Clinton’s, Comey, Garland, et al.

quote:
Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
Ha!

Imagine somebody being against our POTUS doing the work of our enemy

Trump is Putin's stooge, that is why people protest his actions.

Reagan is spinning.....

Pull your head out of your ass.

18 August 2025, 21:31

Steve Bertram

quote:
Originally posted by JudgeG:
I think you’ve got Trump confused with Obama, The Clinton’s, Comey, Garland, et al.

quote:
Originally posted by Steve Bertram:
Ha!

Imagine somebody being against our POTUS doing the work of our enemy

Trump is Putin's stooge, that is why people protest his actions.

Reagan is spinning.....

Another Putin apologist Judge? Why am I not surprised?

18 August 2025, 21:34

crbutler

While I agree we should hope that Trump could come up with an equitable solution to end the war, his public statements make one wonder about what he is offering.

If he is serving as just a middle man between the two sides, that’s not all bad.

If he’s trying to end the war by having the aggrieved party capitulate, that’s somewhat antithetical to our country’s long term policy.

While I think Zelensky has plenty of warts, he’s an Abraham Lincoln compared with his counterpart.

Whatever Trump offered Putin, it will come out eventually. We can judge Trump’s efforts by the results. If it’s wholesale giving up land by Ukraine, somehow I doubt the Ukrainians will agree with that.

Traditionally, one of the European allies was the go between in US/NATO vs Russia/USSR/Warsaw Pact negotiations. This time its us.

18 August 2025, 21:44

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by crbutler:
While I agree we should hope that Trump could come up with an equitable solution to end the war, his public statements make one wonder about what he is offering.

If he is serving as just a middle man between the two sides, that’s not all bad.

If he’s trying to end the war by having the aggrieved party capitulate, that’s somewhat antithetical to our country’s long term policy.

While I think Zelensky has plenty of warts, he’s an Abraham Lincoln compared with his counterpart.

Whatever Trump offered Putin, it will come out eventually. We can judge Trump’s efforts by the results. If it’s wholesale giving up land by Ukraine, somehow I doubt the Ukrainians will agree with that.

Traditionally, one of the European allies was the go between in US/NATO vs Russia/USSR/Warsaw Pact negotiations. This time its us.

He cannot serve as a middle man.

He is actively involved in supporting one side!

The incredible lengths the West went to to antagonize Russia is beyond belief!

Imagine if the same is done to America each time it invades other countries!

America under THE MAGA ARSEHOLE has become irrelevant!

Just a PUPPET for NitanHitler!

18 August 2025, 23:04

nute

quote:
Originally posted by TomP:
I idly wonder if Edmond is still breathing...

Yes, he is and he is doing his best to help his adoptive country remain free.

18 August 2025, 23:05

theback40

Trump cant offer what is not his, period!

18 August 2025, 23:08

fulvio

quote:
Trump is meeting with Zelensky today to tell him to give part of his country to the Russians

Maybe the same piece of land that Obama gave to the Ukraine which the Russians want back?

18 August 2025, 23:14

nute

quote:
The incredible lengths the West went to to antagonize Russia is beyond belief!

You are constantly regurgitating the text of a 108 year old letter from the UK government expressing nebulous support for a possible Jewish state ... but you are blind to a 30something year old agreement guaranteeing the security of Ukraine by Russia ... its still the wests fault.
Did the west force Vlad to invade Crimea?
Did the west force Vlad to arm, train and finance separatists in the east of Ukraine?
Did rather west force Vlad to invade three years ago?
Is the west forcing Vlad to take Ukrainian kids from their homes and relocating them to Russian families?

18 August 2025, 23:19

Mike Mitchell

quote:
Originally posted by fulvio:
quote:
Trump is meeting with Zelensky today to tell him to give part of his country to the Russians

Maybe the same piece of land that Obama gave to the Ukraine which the Russians want back?

Yeah, that must be it genius.

18 August 2025, 23:24

Saeed

I love the way things have changed!

Two hour meeting with Putin and the whole sorry warmongering West are shitting themselves!

18 August 2025, 23:39

nute

To address the premise of this thread I will wait and see what it is that is on the table. People are cynical or skeptical of what Tump says because so much of what he says is total rubbish.

19 August 2025, 00:05

Saeed

Can you imagine, so many so called free countries, cannot get their act together.

The UK has a civil war simmering.

People are not even allowed to have the England flag up.

Because it might hurt the feeling some criminal who entered the country illegally!

19 August 2025, 09:42

RolandtheHeadless

quote:
The incredible lengths the West went to to antagonize Russia is beyond belief!

What's incredible is for any intelligent person to say such a thing.

But I'll bite: what are the West's dastardly deeds against Russia?

It's dumb not to see what Russia is after: territory and resources. Otherwise, why would Putin be demanding territory to settle the war?

Get past the Russian propaganda and think for yourself, Saeed.

19 August 2025, 09:56

Saeed

When the Warsaw Pact was disbanded, NATO should have been disbanded too.

Instead, the West kept inviting countries surrounding Russia to join NATO!

Did you think Russia would stand for that?

You almost went to war with Russia during the Cuban missiles episode!

Call a spade a spade!

19 August 2025, 10:03

RolandtheHeadless

Why should Russia care--other than to offer a pretext--what NATO does? Just because the Warsaw Pact falls apart, why should NATO do the same?

NATO has never attacked or invaded anyone, let alone Russia.

NATO did assist the US in Afghanistan because the US was attacked on 9/11. But NATO members would not assist the US (rightly, imho) when Bush invaded Iraq.

19 August 2025, 17:40

nute

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
When the Warsaw Pact was disbanded, NATO should have been disbanded too.

Instead, the West kept inviting countries surrounding Russia to join NATO!

Did you think Russia would stand for that?

You almost went to war with Russia during the Cuban missiles episode!

Call a spade a spade!

What business is it of Russia’s what other countries decide to do ? Ukraine can apply for membership of NATO or the EU if it wants, it’s none of Russias business.

If Russia is so concerned about its neighbours joining NATO it’s their own actions which have caused Sweden and Finland to join. Prior to Russias invasion both were in favour of remaining neutral.

Just because the Warsaw pact has gone it doesn’t mean Russia now has a sudden respect for other countries security. Russian agents were perfectly happy to spray nerve agents around in the UK in an attempt to kill off someone they didn’t like.

19 August 2025, 18:02

Steve Bertram

And how many miles of border did Russia share with NATO in 2021? And today? If Russia's goal is to keep NATO from its border, they are failing miserably.

19 August 2025, 18:56

JudgeG

And the Monroe Doctrine?

quote:
Originally posted by nute:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
When the Warsaw Pact was disbanded, NATO should have been disbanded too.

Instead, the West kept inviting countries surrounding Russia to join NATO!

Did you think Russia would stand for that?

You almost went to war with Russia during the Cuban missiles episode!

Call a spade a spade!

What business is it of Russia’s what other countries decide to do ? Ukraine can apply for membership of NATO or the EU if it wants, it’s none of Russias business.

If Russia is so concerned about its neighbours joining NATO it’s their own actions which have caused Sweden and Finland to join. Prior to Russias invasion both were in favour of remaining neutral.

Just because the Warsaw pact has gone it doesn’t mean Russia now has a sudden respect for other countries security. Russian agents were perfectly happy to spray nerve agents around in the UK in an attempt to kill off someone they didn’t like.

19 August 2025, 19:50

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by nute:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
When the Warsaw Pact was disbanded, NATO should have been disbanded too.

Instead, the West kept inviting countries surrounding Russia to join NATO!

Did you think Russia would stand for that?

You almost went to war with Russia during the Cuban missiles episode!

Call a spade a spade!

What business is it of Russia’s what other countries decide to do ? Ukraine can apply for membership of NATO or the EU if it wants, it’s none of Russias business.

If Russia is so concerned about its neighbours joining NATO it’s their own actions which have caused Sweden and Finland to join. Prior to Russias invasion both were in favour of remaining neutral.

Just because the Warsaw pact has gone it doesn’t mean Russia now has a sudden respect for other countries security. Russian agents were perfectly happy to spray nerve agents around in the UK in an attempt to kill off someone they didn’t like.

What business it is of America to decide what other countries wish to do?

Why invade and destroy others?

19 August 2025, 23:21

nute

In case you missed it Saeed, I've never supported Bush's vanity war.

20 August 2025, 00:17

Saeed

quote:
Originally posted by nute:
In case you missed it Saeed, I've never supported Bush's vanity war.

Your little dickheads ruling Europe didn’t utter a word when THE ORANGE MAGA TURD bombed Iran!

To please his master, NitanHitler!

Your actions are giving both Russia and China brownie points!

20 August 2025, 04:54

TomP

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by nute:
In case you missed it Saeed, I've never supported Bush's vanity war.

Your little dickheads ruling Europe didn’t utter a word when THE ORANGE MAGA TURD bombed Iran!

To please his master, NitanHitler!

Your actions are giving both Russia and China brownie points!

I suspect that there are countries other than Israel who do not want to see a nuclear Iran...

20 August 2025, 05:32

LHeym500

Saudi Arabia, but our foreign policy has seen Saudi Arabia reestablish diplomatic relations w Iran.

20 August 2025, 08:13

TomP

quote:
Originally posted by nute:
quote:
Originally posted by TomP:
I idly wonder if Edmond is still breathing...

Yes, he is and he is doing his best to help his adoptive country remain free.

Would someone ask him what he thinks about Jeffrey Sachs's thoughts on Ukraine?

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...dresses-ron-pauls-dc

I will say that Sachs always seems to know his subject...