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03 April 2025, 19:33
MJines
Trump . . . doing what he does best
. . . destroying things. Like a robust and growing economy. Dow, SP and NASDAQ all down almost 4-5% . . . today. That's like almost $2 trillion dollars . . . overnight. Well done Orange Messiah. We worship at your feet.


Mike
03 April 2025, 19:38
Bill Leeper
You're just trying to make Trump look bad. It's probably due to the lingering after-effects of Obama's mismanagement in 2009. Regards, Bill.
03 April 2025, 19:50
MJines
. . . or mysteriously linked to Hunter Biden's laptop. Dear God, the MAGAts are a dumb lot.


Mike
03 April 2025, 19:59
ANTELOPEDUNDEE
quote:
Originally posted by Bill Leeper:
You're just trying to make Trump look bad. It's probably due to the lingering after-effects of Obama's mismanagement in 2009. Regards, Bill.


trump is trying to make trump look bad.


Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit.
03 April 2025, 20:07
Saeed
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
. . . destroying things. Like a robust and growing economy. Dow, SP and NASDAQ all down almost 4-5% . . . today. That's like almost $2 trillion dollars . . . overnight. Well done Orange Messiah. We worship at your feet.


Not Orange Messiah.

THE MAGA ARSEHOLE! rotflmo


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03 April 2025, 20:28
HerrBerg
So much winning!

Now have a look at EVERYTHING YOU OWN around you that has been created in low-salary countries. The smartphone/computer. The keyboard you write on. The clothes you're wearing. Your eyeglasses. Your phone charger. Your camera on the shelf. The shelf. The wallpaper behind the shelf. The pencil on your desk. The chair you sit on.

Jack up that price for each item with maybe 50% (if tariffs are 25%). Jack them up with 300% in case low salary production moves into the US.

Any idea how this would NOT create inflation? Poverty? Recession?

Happy liberation day


Write hard and clear about what hurts
-E. Hemingway
03 April 2025, 21:44
TomP
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
. . . destroying things. Like a robust and growing economy. Dow, SP and NASDAQ all down almost 4-5% . . . today. That's like almost $2 trillion dollars . . . overnight. Well done Orange Messiah. We worship at your feet.


Most of the stock market was priced too high to begin with, given the cost of capital. If we were wondering where inflation went, we need look no further than the cost of a retirement income funded with dividends. It needed a quick rinse anyway, but all-at-once might be a little much.


TomP

Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right.

Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906)
03 April 2025, 21:56
medved
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
. . . destroying things. Like a robust and growing economy. Dow, SP and NASDAQ all down almost 4-5% . . . today. That's like almost $2 trillion dollars . . . overnight. Well done Orange Messiah. We worship at your feet.


capitalism is not speculatism lol but seems again your country did not learnt from history ...
03 April 2025, 22:12
Tumbleweed
In 2012 Trump tweeted that if the Dow dropped a thousand points over two days, the POTUS must be impeached immediately.

Waiting…. Whistling
03 April 2025, 23:32
wymple
quote:
Most of the stock market was priced too high to begin with, given the cost of capital



This argument always comes out immediately when trump tanks it, but never a peep when it goes down under a democratic pres. This market is NOT what trump promised.
04 April 2025, 00:40
TomP
quote:
Originally posted by wymple:
quote:
Most of the stock market was priced too high to begin with, given the cost of capital



This argument always comes out immediately when trump tanks it, but never a peep when it goes down under a democratic pres. This market is NOT what trump promised.


I've said so during the Biden administration as well, although the cost of capital was artificially low at the time.


TomP

Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right.

Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906)
04 April 2025, 02:09
theback40
I have not found much in my searching...
Why are tariffs so one sided against the US in most cases?
I know the ag industry with Canada. I talked about it. Look up roadblocks to US ag in the dept of Ag. Even where quotas have not been reached Canada puts up blockades. To be fair, even neighboring provinces are told to bend over and spread them. They treat each other that way too.
But if a global economy is to work, why shouldnt tariffs be equitable? Just for the companies to make a larger profit from oversea labor? So much stuff we get now is shit, compared to what we used to get. LaCross boots, made in the USA. Made in China now. Walked outside in a brand new pair at -30, 10 min later they split. Got another pair when I took them back, same thing at only -20. Power tools are shit. I buy German made now. I would be happy to pay more for quality. Are global tariffs going to help with quality? Or just pay more for foreign crap? I care more about what I am getting for my money, than the price itself.
04 April 2025, 02:35
LHeym500
Another statement from King Charles I, “ No law exists under which a king can be charged with a crime!”

Sounds a lot like President Trump.
04 April 2025, 02:35
medved
quote:
Originally posted by theback40:
I have not found much in my searching...
Why are tariffs so one sided against the US in most cases?
I know the ag industry with Canada. I talked about it. Look up roadblocks to US ag in the dept of Ag. Even where quotas have not been reached Canada puts up blockades. To be fair, even neighboring provinces are told to bend over and spread them. They treat each other that way too.
But if a global economy is to work, why shouldnt tariffs be equitable? Just for the companies to make a larger profit from oversea labor? So much stuff we get now is shit, compared to what we used to get. LaCross boots, made in the USA. Made in China now. Walked outside in a brand new pair at -30, 10 min later they split. Got another pair when I took them back, same thing at only -20. Power tools are shit. I buy German made now. I would be happy to pay more for quality. Are global tariffs going to help with quality? Or just pay more for foreign crap? I care more about what I am getting for my money, than the price itself.


agreements like alena or trump 1.0 were negotiated by the same person now that is willing to charge despite agreements he negotiated and signed ... now you are in the situation that nobody believes you for signature who won now ...
04 April 2025, 04:23
wymple
Dow dropped 1675 today, Russel 2000 went into a bear market, S&P down about 5%, Nasdaq down 6% Only 2 1/2 months in......
04 April 2025, 09:28
ANTELOPEDUNDEE
I wonder how much of the robotic equipment on the assembly lines in Tesla's Austin factory is domestically produced.


Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit.
04 April 2025, 09:37
medved
quote:
Originally posted by ANTELOPEDUNDEE:
I wonder how much of the robotic equipment on the assembly lines in Tesla's Austin factory is domestically produced.


there will be some exemptions and hypocrisy has no limits nor border lol and you cant tax that ...
04 April 2025, 10:41
shankspony
quote:
Originally posted by theback40:
I have not found much in my searching...
Why are tariffs so one sided against the US in most cases?
I know the ag industry with Canada. I talked about it. Look up roadblocks to US ag in the dept of Ag. Even where quotas have not been reached Canada puts up blockades. To be fair, even neighboring provinces are told to bend over and spread them. They treat each other that way too.
But if a global economy is to work, why shouldnt tariffs be equitable? Just for the companies to make a larger profit from oversea labor? So much stuff we get now is shit, compared to what we used to get. LaCross boots, made in the USA. Made in China now. Walked outside in a brand new pair at -30, 10 min later they split. Got another pair when I took them back, same thing at only -20. Power tools are shit. I buy German made now. I would be happy to pay more for quality. Are global tariffs going to help with quality? Or just pay more for foreign crap? I care more about what I am getting for my money, than the price itself.


Some of the quoted tariffs are incorrect.

We have an average of 1.6% that could realistically be called a tariff. We have been credited with having 20%. None of us know how the trump admin came too that figure except that they are Including our GST/VAT as a tariff. But given that we pay that on home produced goods too, Its clearly not.
04 April 2025, 11:15
Tumbleweed
Doing what he does best is right.

Fires, floods, tornadoes all across the nation - and he’s off for another $3 million dollar golf weekend. It appears he’s pissed away about $30 million taxpayers dollars golfing so far this term.

What was that stuff about Elon cutting waste? Roll Eyes

None the less, it’s still interesting watching one of history’s greatest narcissists bring the world’s greatest economy to its knees with what he perceives as grand gestures. Only a true megalomaniac could have conceived this ‘United States vs Planet Earth’ scenario and imagined a good outcome.
04 April 2025, 14:37
Magine Enigam
https://youtube.com/shorts/oWw...?si=z7hQw2rmXvlVvmCm

Why Trump’s Approval Rating Is Still So High Despite Many Being Furious With What He’s Doing

https://apnews.com/article/us-...8935fe760aacf494c96b


*************
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


04 April 2025, 18:29
JTEX
quote:
Why are tariffs so one sided against the US in most cases?
I know the ag industry with Canada. I talked about it. Look up roadblocks to US ag in the dept of Ag. Even where quotas have not been reached Canada puts up blockades. To be fair, even neighboring provinces are told to bend over and spread them. They treat each other that way too.
But if a global economy is to work, why shouldnt tariffs be equitable? Just for the companies to make a larger profit from oversea labor


Because the other countries have their domestic markets protected. Why shouldn't we???

What is wrong with fair trade????

Can ANY of you leftists tell me what is wrong with a level playing field?????


.
04 April 2025, 19:04
Kensco
On CNBC yesterday there was a chart put up showing the tariffs the various countries had in place, based on Trump's claims, and the actually tariffs found after fact-checking his numbers, and the way they were calculated. In some cases the White House was claiming 40+% tariffs on US goods, and the actual tariffs were found to be single digit. With Trump's habit of lying why do you trust his numbers?

Also on CNBC this interview took place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjGnASdALk8 The interviewers were asking the Trump supporter the time frame for Trump to declare "Victory". In other words, when would the "front-end pain" be over. (at about the 4:00 minute mark.) The MAGA representative from Texas immediately started rambling and never answered the question.

That has always been the trouble with MAGA. They tear everything down to show how rough-tough they are, with no real idea of where they are going or what they are trying to accomplish, and no real leadership to get them there. This poor MAGA fool sounds intelligent, but admits, by ducking the question, that he doesn't know where the goalposts are.

Maybe he needs to talk to Laura Loomer to get the answer.
04 April 2025, 20:32
HerrBerg
quote:
Originally posted by Kensco:
That has always been the trouble with MAGA. They tear everything down to show how rough-tough they are, with no real idea of where they are going or what they are trying to accomplish, and no real leadership to get them there.


They follow the three-step program for demagogue propaganda:

1: We're here now. We don't like this. Let's destroy it.
2: We will make something happen, no idea what or how... but we'll figure something out.
3: Paradise.


Write hard and clear about what hurts
-E. Hemingway
04 April 2025, 20:39
Magine Enigam
I read something yesterday about Trump's answer to a question about how long before US infrastructure is ready to resume domestic production that's migrated overseas.

Again Trump didn't provide a direct answer but the best deciphering is about 2 years. He didn't say the starting time. And somehow the tariff revenue is supposed to help. I suspect that "help" will be doled out depending on a loyalty test or oligarch test.

IOW, Peter Navarro BS.

But the tariffs were supposed to supplement the tax relief on the wealthy? How's that gonna work?

And I read that Trump did another EO targeting unions. So, the labor in his 'plan' is cheap., no benefit - health, retirement, etc.

Reagan's trickle-down economy flipped to trickle up.


*************
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


04 April 2025, 20:43
medved
quote:
Originally posted by Kensco:
On CNBC yesterday there was a chart put up showing the tariffs the various countries had in place, based on Trump's claims, and the actually tariffs found after fact-checking his numbers, and the way they were calculated. In some cases the White House was claiming 40+% tariffs on US goods, and the actual tariffs were found to be single digit. With Trump's habit of lying why do you trust his numbers?

Also on CNBC this interview took place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjGnASdALk8 The interviewers were asking the Trump supporter the time frame for Trump to declare "Victory". In other words, when would the "front-end pain" be over. (at about the 4:00 minute mark.) The MAGA representative from Texas immediately started rambling and never answered the question.

That has always been the trouble with MAGA. They tear everything down to show how rough-tough they are, with no real idea of where they are going or what they are trying to accomplish, and no real leadership to get them there. This poor MAGA fool sounds intelligent, but admits, by ducking the question, that he doesn't know where the goalposts are.

Maybe he needs to talk to Laura Loomer to get the answer.


do not watch leftist medias they are lying lol ...
04 April 2025, 20:47
Magine Enigam
And Laura Loomer is a national treasure.


*************
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


04 April 2025, 20:50
TomP
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
And Laura Loomer is a national treasure.


Classic Trump. Image over substance.


TomP

Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when wrong to be put right.

Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906)
04 April 2025, 20:51
Magine Enigam
The bigger the lips, the better the image. Wink


*************
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


04 April 2025, 20:55
ANTELOPEDUNDEE
quote:
Originally posted by Magine Enigam:
The bigger the lips, the better the image. Wink


Both sets?


Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit.
04 April 2025, 21:12
Magine Enigam
Well, they say, but I haven't affirmed, big feet and big hands means big dick.

Big facial lips per cosmetic surgery doesn't work the same way, again I haven't affirmed that.

Note, Trump has little bone spur feet and little hands, little lips, false teeth and surgically enhanced hair. Hummm

The things that Trump has that are big is ass and ego and fantasy.


*************
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


04 April 2025, 21:23
Magine Enigam
Fox News doing what it does best - spinning.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...2440b0e692e9d0&ei=12

Auto Workers for Trump leader says tariffs have already had a ‘positive effect’


*************
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus


05 April 2025, 04:12
jdollar
Trump promised to bring down inflation. Instead he tanked the stock market and increased the upward climb of inflation. Jerome Powell today unequivocally today that the tariffs will almost certainly increase the inflation rate before year end. So much winning I can’t stand it…


Vote Trump- Putin’s best friend…
To quote a former AND CURRENT Trumpiteer - DUMP TRUMP
05 April 2025, 04:42
ANTELOPEDUNDEE
When will it hit bottom?


Give me a home where the buffalo roam and I'll show you a house full of buffalo shit.
05 April 2025, 04:51
medved
quote:
Originally posted by MJines:
. . . destroying things. Like a robust and growing economy. Dow, SP and NASDAQ all down almost 4-5% . . . today. That's like almost $2 trillion dollars . . . overnight. Well done Orange Messiah. We worship at your feet.


strong economy with the deficit you had ... maybe we do not undertstand economy the same way ... market is different certainly as well.
05 April 2025, 05:06
Magine Enigam
https://youtube.com/shorts/BLC...?si=k3j5abK0QpjzHFm4

The problem with being stupid? You’re too stupid to know it.

Trump says he knows more about everything than anybody:

https://www.youtube.com/result...rything+than+anybody


*************
“Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.” George Orwell, 1984
https://www.google.com/search?...sclient=gws-wiz-serp

Degenerate 1:1
1 Then Trump said, "Let Us re-make a Nation in MY Image, after My likeness, to rule over everything in the Nation, and over all the earth itself and every creature that crawls upon it".

Degenerate 1:2
2 Then Trump said, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay on your behalf."

Degenerate 1:3
3 "My Kingdom come, My will be done."

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross." - Sinclair Lewis

O.J. Trump aka Trumpism's Founding Farter, aka Farter Martyr.

"Be careful. When a democracy is sick, fascism comes to its bedside, but it is not to inquire about its health." - Albert Camus