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10 August 2025, 20:29
Saeed
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Originally posted by Bobster:
Then how are you supposed to handle terrorists that surround themselves with human shields?

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Originally posted by Saeed:
Denying the genocide against the Palestinians is no different than denying the genocide against the Jews in Germany!


You nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki!

Didn’t give much thought to civilians!


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10 August 2025, 20:32
Bobster
Spain is a US ally and are quite aware of our interests. They are not about to slip out of hte protective NATO umbrella. If they want to buy another jet so what? It's happened before. You ever thought it might just be a negotiating tactic?
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Originally posted by medved:
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Originally posted by LHeym500:
It matters because it makes countries less cognizant of U.S. interests and allows nation states we isolate to rejoin global integration.


explain that to bobster lol ...

10 August 2025, 21:36
medved
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Who gives a shit? Since when has Spain played a pivotal role in anything? It would be a waste of exceptional aircraft anyway. Let them play with Eurofighters.


i might add if you have a chance to look on a geographical chart you will see how spain is located and the access it is giving you to the mediterranean sea lol ... and you are right your allies do not have any pivotal role in anything lol
10 August 2025, 23:18
Mike Mitchell
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Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by Bobster:
Then how are you supposed to handle terrorists that surround themselves with human shields?

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Denying the genocide against the Palestinians is no different than denying the genocide against the Jews in Germany!


You nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki!

Didn’t give much thought to civilians!


Civilian casualties would have been exponentially higher if the US had chose a ground invasion instead of using the bombs. That is not an arguable fact. Most estimates for Japanese civilian casualties in the event of a ground invasion of the Japanese home islands were over a million, some considerably so. In addition to several hundred thousand Americans.

We gave them every chance to avoid the bombings. Warned them repeatedly. Even after both bombs were dropped and Hiroshima and Nagasaki were basically leveled, there were many Japanese who wanted to continue the fight. The Emperor had to step in and make the decision for them to surrender.

In any event. They started it. We ended it.



10 August 2025, 23:31
ledvm
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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:
quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
quote:
Originally posted by Bobster:
Then how are you supposed to handle terrorists that surround themselves with human shields?

quote:
Originally posted by Saeed:
Denying the genocide against the Palestinians is no different than denying the genocide against the Jews in Germany!


You nuked Hiroshima and Nagasaki!

Didn’t give much thought to civilians!


Civilian casualties would have been exponentially higher if the US had chose a ground invasion instead of using the bombs. That is not an arguable fact. Most estimates for Japanese civilian casualties in the event of a ground invasion of the Japanese home islands were over a million, some considerably so. In addition to several hundred thousand Americans.

We gave them every chance to avoid the bombings. Warned them repeatedly. Even after both bombs were dropped and Hiroshima and Nagasaki were basically leveled, there were many Japanese who wanted to continue the fight. The Emperor had to step in and make the decision for them to surrender.

In any event. They started it. We ended it.


Credit where credit is due. Exactly^^^right.


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