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Originally posted by sjr:
By the sounds of it Rep. George Santos would make a great Democrats fit right in with AOC and IIhan Omar

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Originally posted by crbutler:
I assume that the voters will toss the guy in the next election.

I hope so.

That is our current system for dealing with politicians who deceive the voters to get elected.

The voters have no other recourse in most states.

Politicians lie. It’s up there with death and taxes.

Yes, I agree this guy is sleaze.

What are you thinking should be done with him?

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by crbutler:
I assume that the voters will toss the guy in the next election.

I hope so.

That is our current system for dealing with politicians who deceive the voters to get elected.

The voters have no other recourse in most states.

Politicians lie. It’s up there with death and taxes.

Yes, I agree this guy is sleaze.

What are you thinking should be done with him?

It would be nice if there was universal condemnation from the GOP regarding his lying along with forceful demands that he resign. Instead, as noted in the OP, you've got a very few principled republicans willing to condemn the guy. The vast majority are silent. After all, he represents another vote for them....and that's all that matters.

Hard to believe you'd need somebody to explain that to you.

Of course, trump has made it normal and acceptable to be a lying sack of shit in the republican party.

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Originally posted by sjr:
By the sounds of it Rep. George Santos would make a great Democrats fit right in with AOC and IIhan Omar

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by sjr:
By the sounds of it Rep. George Santos would make a great Democrats fit right in with AOC and IIhan Omar

Brilliant response. Except for the fact that he is, as noted, a republican.

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Originally posted by Mike Mitchell:

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Originally posted by crbutler:
I assume that the voters will toss the guy in the next election.

I hope so.

That is our current system for dealing with politicians who deceive the voters to get elected.

The voters have no other recourse in most states.

Politicians lie. It’s up there with death and taxes.

Yes, I agree this guy is sleaze.

What are you thinking should be done with him?

It would be nice if there was universal condemnation from the GOP regarding his lying along with forceful demands that he resign. Instead, as noted in the OP, you've got a very few principled republicans willing to condemn the guy. The vast majority are silent. After all, he represents another vote for them....and that's all that matters.

Hard to believe you'd need somebody to explain that to you.

Of course, trump has made it normal and acceptable to be a lying sack of shit in the republican party.

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Originally posted by P. Jilek:
Maybe Santos is just laying the groundwork to run for president someday. Maybe Biden is his mentor in regards to making up stories about his life. I have no problem with the criticism of Santos, but the consequences should be the same for both sides. Here is an article from the Washington Post on Biden's claims:

When it comes to making up self-serving, politically advantageous details about his past, Santos seems to have taken a page from our fabulist in chief. Let’s review the record:

Biden has lied about his family history. During the 1988 Democratic presidential primary, it emerged that he had plagiarized a speech by British Labour leader Neil Kinnock, adopting Kinnock’s family history as his own. “Why is it that Joe Biden is the first in his family ever to go to a university?” Biden asked. “Is it because I’m the first Biden in a thousand generations to get a college and a graduate degree? … My ancestors, who worked in the coal mines of northeast Pennsylvania and would come up after 12 hours and play football for four hours?”

Not only were many of the words stolen, so were the facts: Biden was not the first in his family to go to college (only the first on his father’s side), and his ancestors had not been coal miners (though a great-grandfather was a mining engineer). In 2008, he falsely told the United Mine Workers “I am a hard coal miner.” (A spokesperson said he was joking.)

Biden has also made numerous false assertions about his educational achievements. He claimed in 1987 that he had “graduated with three degrees from college,” had received an award as “the outstanding student in the political science department,” finished in the “top half” of his class at law school and received a “full academic scholarship.” None of that was true. He received a single B.A. in history and political science, had only been put up for the award by a professor, graduated 76th in a class of 85 from Syracuse College of Law, and had a partial need-based scholarship. After the Supreme Court reversed Roe v. Wade, he claimed to have written “a number of law review articles” on the right to privacy — which was untrue.

He has also falsely claimed to have been arrested multiple times for taking righteous stands. During his 2020 campaign, Biden repeatedly claimed that he was arrested in South Africa trying to visit Nelson Mandela in prison, adding that Mandela thanked him for it when he came to Washington. None of it was true.

Biden also claimed during a speech in Atlanta that he had been arrested while protesting for civil rights: “You think I’m kidding, man. It seems like yesterday the first time I got arrested.” According to the New York Times, “There is no evidence he was ever arrested during a civil-rights protest.” He has also falsely claimed to have been arrested as a college student for entering an all-female dorm, and sneaking into the U.S. Capitol. Has any president experienced so much imagined jail time?

He has also lied about his experience in war zones. In 2021, Biden told State Department employees that he was “shot at” overseas — similar to a debunked claim of being shot at inside Baghdad’s fortified Green Zone made during a Democratic presidential debate in 2007. (He later revised the claim, saying that in fact, “I was near where a shot landed.”) In 2019, he told a detailed story about brushing off warnings of danger, when he was vice president, to pin a Silver Star on a Navy captain in Afghanistan.

The Post reported that “almost every detail in the story appears to be incorrect.” It was President Barack Obama, not Biden, who gave him the award; it was the Medal of Honor, not the Silver Star; and the ceremony took place at the White House, not in Afghanistan.

Biden has lied about consoling victims of tragedy. He claimed that he met in Washington with survivors of a school shooting in Parkland, Fla., while he was vice president, even though the shooting took place in 2018, well after he left office, and that he spent time at Tree of Life synagogue, after 11 people were massacred there in 2018, but it turns out he never visited. (He spoke to the rabbi by phone.)

He has lied about his relationships with foreign leaders. In 2020, he claimed that he had gotten China to join the 2016 Paris climate accord “after meeting with Deng Xiaoping,” who died in 1997. And he has claimed more than 20 times that he had traveled 17,000 miles with Chinese President Xi Jinping — earning Biden a “Bottomless Pinocchio” from The Post.

And, of course, Biden lies constantly about his record as president. He falsely claimed to have passed his student loan forgiveness “by a vote or two.” (Congress never voted on it.) He has repeatedly falsely claimed that he has cut the federal debt in half; that “real incomes are up” (they’ve suffered the largest decline in four decades); that his Chips Act will create 1 million construction jobs (the real number is 6,200); that his Inflation Reduction Act will reduce inflation (it will not); and that none of his military commanders advised him to leave a residual force in Afghanistan (they did).

Biden’s career has been a constant stream of untruths. Yet no Democratic Party leaders have suggested that Biden is “woefully unqualified” or “unfit to serve.” Maybe Santos should switch parties and run for president — then all would be forgiven.

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Originally posted by P. Jilek:
Maybe Santos is just laying the groundwork to run for president someday. Maybe Biden is his mentor in regards to making up stories about his life. I have no problem with the criticism of Santos, but the consequences should be the same for both sides. Here is an article from the Washington Post on Biden's claims:

When it comes to making up self-serving, politically advantageous details about his past, Santos seems to have taken a page from our fabulist in chief. Let’s review the record:

Biden has lied about his family history. During the 1988 Democratic presidential primary, it emerged that he had plagiarized a speech by British Labour leader Neil Kinnock, adopting Kinnock’s family history as his own. “Why is it that Joe Biden is the first in his family ever to go to a university?” Biden asked. “Is it because I’m the first Biden in a thousand generations to get a college and a graduate degree? … My ancestors, who worked in the coal mines of northeast Pennsylvania and would come up after 12 hours and play football for four hours?”

Not only were many of the words stolen, so were the facts: Biden was not the first in his family to go to college (only the first on his father’s side), and his ancestors had not been coal miners (though a great-grandfather was a mining engineer). In 2008, he falsely told the United Mine Workers “I am a hard coal miner.” (A spokesperson said he was joking.)

Biden has also made numerous false assertions about his educational achievements. He claimed in 1987 that he had “graduated with three degrees from college,” had received an award as “the outstanding student in the political science department,” finished in the “top half” of his class at law school and received a “full academic scholarship.” None of that was true. He received a single B.A. in history and political science, had only been put up for the award by a professor, graduated 76th in a class of 85 from Syracuse College of Law, and had a partial need-based scholarship. After the Supreme Court reversed Roe v. Wade, he claimed to have written “a number of law review articles” on the right to privacy — which was untrue.

He has also falsely claimed to have been arrested multiple times for taking righteous stands. During his 2020 campaign, Biden repeatedly claimed that he was arrested in South Africa trying to visit Nelson Mandela in prison, adding that Mandela thanked him for it when he came to Washington. None of it was true.

Biden also claimed during a speech in Atlanta that he had been arrested while protesting for civil rights: “You think I’m kidding, man. It seems like yesterday the first time I got arrested.” According to the New York Times, “There is no evidence he was ever arrested during a civil-rights protest.” He has also falsely claimed to have been arrested as a college student for entering an all-female dorm, and sneaking into the U.S. Capitol. Has any president experienced so much imagined jail time?

He has also lied about his experience in war zones. In 2021, Biden told State Department employees that he was “shot at” overseas — similar to a debunked claim of being shot at inside Baghdad’s fortified Green Zone made during a Democratic presidential debate in 2007. (He later revised the claim, saying that in fact, “I was near where a shot landed.”) In 2019, he told a detailed story about brushing off warnings of danger, when he was vice president, to pin a Silver Star on a Navy captain in Afghanistan.

The Post reported that “almost every detail in the story appears to be incorrect.” It was President Barack Obama, not Biden, who gave him the award; it was the Medal of Honor, not the Silver Star; and the ceremony took place at the White House, not in Afghanistan.

Biden has lied about consoling victims of tragedy. He claimed that he met in Washington with survivors of a school shooting in Parkland, Fla., while he was vice president, even though the shooting took place in 2018, well after he left office, and that he spent time at Tree of Life synagogue, after 11 people were massacred there in 2018, but it turns out he never visited. (He spoke to the rabbi by phone.)

He has lied about his relationships with foreign leaders. In 2020, he claimed that he had gotten China to join the 2016 Paris climate accord “after meeting with Deng Xiaoping,” who died in 1997. And he has claimed more than 20 times that he had traveled 17,000 miles with Chinese President Xi Jinping — earning Biden a “Bottomless Pinocchio” from The Post.

And, of course, Biden lies constantly about his record as president. He falsely claimed to have passed his student loan forgiveness “by a vote or two.” (Congress never voted on it.) He has repeatedly falsely claimed that he has cut the federal debt in half; that “real incomes are up” (they’ve suffered the largest decline in four decades); that his Chips Act will create 1 million construction jobs (the real number is 6,200); that his Inflation Reduction Act will reduce inflation (it will not); and that none of his military commanders advised him to leave a residual force in Afghanistan (they did).

Biden’s career has been a constant stream of untruths. Yet no Democratic Party leaders have suggested that Biden is “woefully unqualified” or “unfit to serve.” Maybe Santos should switch parties and run for president — then all would be forgiven.

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
P Jackoff has picked out a few statements from over a half of a century of public life, replete with thousands of speeches. In that half of a century, Biden has probably made 5,000,000 statements in those 50 years.

Who in the fuck do you think you are convincing with your phony false equivalency?

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
Huivus, how many times have you misspoke in your life? Have you been a half century in the public limelight giving thousands of speeches?

Interesting, you gave fat boy a pass when the Washington Post counted over 30,000 lies in four years.

Jackoff listed less than ten for Biden (and some of those are questionable).

Does the concept of false equivalency resonate with you at all?

10 lies in 50 years vs 30,000 plus in 4 years.

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Originally posted by Schrodinger:
Huivus, how many times have you misspoke in your life? Have you been a half century in the public limelight giving thousands of speeches?

Interesting, you gave fat boy a pass when the Washington Post counted over 30,000 lies in four years.

Jackoff listed less than ten for Biden (and some of those are questionable).

Does the concept of false equivalency resonate with you at all?

10 lies in 50 years vs 30,000 plus in 4 years.

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Huivus, how many times have you misspoke in your life? Have you been a half century in the public limelight giving thousands of speeches?

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You can look back in my posts and identify where I gave Trump a pass - you won't find it

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Originally posted by crbutler:
I assume that the voters will toss the guy in the next election.

I hope so.

That is our current system for dealing with politicians who deceive the voters to get elected.

The voters have no other recourse in most states.

Politicians lie. It’s up there with death and taxes.

Yes, I agree this guy is sleaze.

What are you thinking should be done with him?