22 October 2016, 20:08
butchlambertUnfair advantage?
https://www.facebook.com/USARCMPSo the military can go out and recruit the best shooter at Camp Perry? I am happy for Keith, but!
23 October 2016, 10:16
SamSure can. AMU has a well planned recruiting system also. You know you are going to AMU before you enlist.
23 October 2016, 21:22
butchlambertAs I understand it, Keith will go in as a 12T rating. Being a reserve he can probably retain his civilian job and take advantage of pay, medical, free shooting equip, supplies, and travel.
I certainly don't blame Keith at all, but how will this practice affect the civilian teams?
24 October 2016, 07:01
HPMasterBoth AMU and Reserve team members have dual duty- to shoot competitively and instruct units in advanced tactical marksmanship. often serving in combat theaters for deployed units training needs.
26 October 2016, 04:51
Idaho Sharpshooterwell, there is the idea that you are shooting for your country instead of as a hired gun to be considered...
26 October 2016, 06:14
butchlambertquote:
Originally posted by Idaho Sharpshooter:
well, there is the idea that you are shooting for your country instead of as a hired gun to be considered...
If you want to think of it that way.
26 October 2016, 21:45
PeterI guess I look at is as follows: How does this inprove the combat effectiveness of our troops? If it does, then it is money well spent. If not, the utility should be questioned. How many new recruits will Keith's membership bring?
The military has traditionally been a place where talented athletes could spend the time to train to be the best they could be, without worrying about the expenses involved. Shooting and Modern Pentathlon come to mind as examples. I am sure the publicity involved in competing at an international and Olympic level was favorable, but not sure about the relationship between that and combat effectiveness.
I remember with some dismay the fact that some National Guardsmen refused to serve in Iraq on the grounds that they didn't sign up to actually go overseas and fight!
Peter.
28 October 2016, 06:13
HPMasterButch;
Recruited shooters have ben a standard in the services for a long time. Nowadays, the Army is the only one which actively pursues talent to wear the uniform but utilizes them to win for the Army plus and probably more importantly provide training and equipment development for the tactical majority.
The USMC rotates shooters from the USMC team (TDA) to units individually. As far as I know, the USN and USAF don't do either- just allow PTDY to shoot on their own dime.
28 October 2016, 19:23
butchlambertquote:
Originally posted by HPMaster:
Butch;
Recruited shooters have ben a standard in the services for a long time. Nowadays, the Army is the only one which actively pursues talent to wear the uniform but utilizes them to win for the Army plus and probably more importantly provide training and equipment development for the tactical majority.
The USMC rotates shooters from the USMC team (TDA) to units individually. As far as I know, the USN and USAF don't do either- just allow PTDY to shoot on their own dime.
Just wasn't aware of this practice. I don't blame Keith at all. Yes he was in the Marine Corp. in years past.