29 August 2004, 00:16
Bwana-beStart-up costs?
So, say you want to make a basic semi-spitzer, bonded I guess. In one caliber.
What's the least expensive way to get started? Press, dies, etc.
And how much more trouble/cost to get into an A-Frame or Partition type bullet?
I've been buying Aframes for $40/50, so after 5 boxes or so, I've bought a press, right?
Could someone give me the low-down on start-up?
29 August 2004, 03:16
Jungli BainsIt cost me about a thousand dollars or so to get started, but I got more than just the bullet making dies and press. I added a jacket making set, and a boat tail set and an extra point form die. All my equipment was from RCECO, which is run by Richard Corbin whose workmanship and bullet making knowledge is excellent. Check his web page at
www.rceco.com for his current prices. You'll need a press and one set of dies to make a bullet with an open point or filled to the tip with the core. These bullets can be bonded easily.
29 August 2004, 04:36
MartinPottsJungli bains Said it all about .!
Richard still has a very few old ( but still new )
WallNut hill's press's left at about $200.00 each
Bwana-be What bullet Diam/Caliber were you going after.? .308 ? .338 ? .375? .458
Richard has a small amount in stock .these die set are one's that other customer's backed out on or could not affored .
This does not by any mean's make then defective or odd ball's .
A set of swage die's run's about 350.00 .
Core swage die -
swage's the lead into a core of a given Diam Next is the
Core seat die it swage's the core into the jacket Next is the
Point former and as you may have guessed it form's the
point/nose of the bullet. That is the normal 3 die swage set. Once you get started you will find a treasure trove
of information avalible from
Richard Corbin and other's
on some of the tip's and trick's to making all sort's
of diffrent kind's of bullet's.
So you wanted the low down on start up cost .

One
WallNut Hill's ( old style ) 200.00
Swage Die Set 350.00
Flux 1.00 to 2.50
Lead about 22.00 pre roll there about 25 Lb each in any given Diam.
A good set of Scale's .. for making bullet's over.375 you will need a better set of scale's then normal
So you could get away with about
650.00 .
You will need to be able to heat the jacket's and lead once you add the flux to bond the two together ( core bonding )
Now about Partioning bullet's it will require you to buy and
extra top punch in a diam slightly larger the the jacket
inside diam. becouse your going to
Roll the inner
wall down over the lead core to devided the two .
On mine i found that leaving a small hole about .200
between the two help's in stopping the two half from completly seperating on bullet impact. the bottom holds the top so to speak.
Some of these type's of bullet's are made differntly
some a slightly threaded on the inside and require custom made jacket holder's do to the threading or you can make the little holder by using two piece's of half drilled plastic as to not mar the jacket when threading the inside
there are alot of thing's to learn
Richard Corbin can help you or one of use here can help you not everyone does the
same thing the same way but we all wind up with very good bullet's .
forgot to add Lead wire is on the high side to ship at about 12.00 for the shipping.
Since you live in Oregon . just take a weekend and drive down to see Richard
Phoenix Oregon is just the other side of Medford ---
4090 Colver Rd Phoenix ,Oregon 97535
1-541-512-0440 If you want to learn how to swage and cant get that far down south maybe you can make it to Coos Bay Oregon i can help show you or you can call me just send me a PM and i will drop you my home phone ..
You will aso need jacket's thay can be had from
Butch-
harrell.hairfield@ps.ge.com Jacket's run anywere from 9 cent's to 14 cent's
29 August 2004, 09:04
MartinPottsAnother route to go is go Reloading press swage die's
Made by CH Tool & Die/4-D Die Co.
Using Dave Davision's 101 swage die set
It's a two die set of swage's meant to
seat a core into the jacket then the other set is meant to point form the bullet.
With this die set you will need to buy a Core/Bullet moulder
to make the core's or a core cutter to cut the lead wire to lenght.
These die's are very much like the old Ted Smith Die's
101 swage die -Order No. 101XXXXX:
$113.85 Standard Available Calibers:
308, 355, 357, 410, 429, and 451
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Custom calibers are also available. They are
$ 189.75 and can be delivered
in 12-14 weeks.
http://www.ch4d.com/For a core cutter you can get one from Richard corbin or dave davison
I would go Richard corbin for the core moulder though
core Cutter's run about 50.00 moulder can run as high as 175.00 ..
Core moulder's form 3 to 4 core at one time
how ever i never pour more them two at a time myself
And to make super accurate bullet weight's you will need
a core moulder to get all the core's the same weight down to under 1/4 grain diffrent's
if you go core moulder you will also need a lead melting pot
and spoon..
You might also think about getting a jacket reducing die
So you can take black jacket's and reduce them
it work's out best if your shoot say a .458 and a .423 or .416 with in thoses limit's you need only buy .458 jacket then and reduce all the rest from them down to what you need in the smaller diam
And you might think about getting a case trimer or somthing else to trim over lenght jacket's down..
It's ten times easyer once seen then talked about.
Pottsy
P.S Another person you might email or PM on this is
subject
Saeed
I have heard tell he's slung a few swaged bullet's down range ...

10 December 2004, 23:11
Rusty GunnHow differcult might it be to make 220-250 grain round nosed bullets in .323 (8mm) using copper tubing?
Concerning tubing, is this the coiled on a spool fuel tubing that is used?
What sort of investment might this be? ~~~Suluuq