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03 October 2020, 07:01
Bill/Oregon
Screwed
OK, so I go looking at Ace, Home Depot and Lowes for slotted oval head screws. I know. Rare bird in these horrid times. But what do I find in the woodscrew section? About 90 percent Hillman Phillips-head zinc-coated dreck. I wanted to barf.
Boy. Time to die.


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
– John Green, author
03 October 2020, 07:47
Use Enough Gun
When in doubt, order them online. Big Grin
03 October 2020, 08:59
NormanConquest
How well I know. I was running low on pop rivets + needed to finish a job + didn't have time to go to my supply house so I went to the local hardware store to buy a few. When I asked the kid where they were he didn't even know what I was talking about.


Never mistake motion for action.
03 October 2020, 09:14
Use Enough Gun
I have a Home Depot and a Lowe's very close and can choose to go to either. However, with that said, I have found that for the most part, what is found at Home Depot is also found at Lowe's with very few exceptions. It used to be that what might not be found at one would be found at the other. No more. Thus, going online and ordering and having it shipped has often been the best thing for me with many items.
03 October 2020, 16:39
p dog shooter
quote:
OK, so I go looking at Ace, Home Depot and Lowes for slotted oval head screws


I have went to Torx head screws when ever possible.

I learn to hate slotted head and Philips screws
03 October 2020, 17:26
Bill/Oregon
P dog, sometimes a guy wants a screw that would not have been out of place a century or two ago
-- heck, even 30 years ago -- like on guns.
That said I confess to driving 1,000 sheetrock screws for every slotted screw these days.


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
– John Green, author
03 October 2020, 19:32
Grizzly Adams1
Hey, we have our own Screw head, the Robertson, way superior to either Phillips or slot head. Wink Slot heads are about extinct and not missed. Phillips heads are mostly confined to drywall screws and foreign manufactured stuff, the idea behind them being, they slip when excessive torque is applied.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P._L._Robertson

Grizz


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03 October 2020, 19:43
nopride2
Years ago I built a shipping crate using Robertson screws. The guy I shipped to on the east coast said square drivers were not available there. I don't know how he got the box open but the helmet is on his web site.

Dave
03 October 2020, 20:16
Aspen Hill Adventures
quote:
I have went to Torx head screws when ever possible.


None better in my experience.


~Ann


03 October 2020, 20:44
TomP
ACE Hardware has the best screw selection hereabouts, and drivers as well.


TomP

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03 October 2020, 21:23
MeMe
I keep a supply of all the drivers handy at all times. Never know when you will need them. I have found that the Torx and Robertson's work the best. Tork will tear out if you are not straight and bearing down. Robertson will take a little angle. I have a bucket of slotted screws of every type imaginable just in case I have to match something old.
03 October 2020, 21:45
p dog shooter
quote:
I keep a supply of all the drivers handy at all times.


I rebuilt a deck that was first built in 1975 repaired added to ect for the last 40 some years.

I took 6 to 8 different type of fasteners out of that deck. It now has all torx head screws in it
06 October 2020, 05:56
Dulltool17
quote:
Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
quote:
I have went to Torx head screws when ever possible.


None better in my experience.


AMEN to that!


Doug Wilhelmi
NRA Life Member

06 October 2020, 10:23
NormanConquest
The Torx does give more grip(I'm still trying to get another bolt for the starter on my 94 jeep.) I always used hex heads in the AC industry. Screws are measured by the 16th. thus a 1/4 in. screw is called a #8, etc. Also, we have the Phillips destination called a "flank drive" which is basically a Phillips slot w/ an interspersed high point that to the best of my knowledge only Snap-On has a screwdriver for.


Never mistake motion for action.
06 October 2020, 19:08
Bill/Oregon
Grizz, that Roberston looks a lot like the square screw head on the Kreg pocket screws I have been using lately on my attempts at furniture.


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
– John Green, author
15 October 2020, 03:39
Pa.Frank
I like the square drive screws as much as torx.

But as far as the flat blade screwdriver being obsolete... well did you ever try to open a can of paint with a torx or square drive tool? ain't happenin..


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Life is tough... It's even tougher when you're stupid... John Wayne
15 October 2020, 09:32
NormanConquest
Speaking of openers, I still have several of the "old style" church keys hanging on the wall in my shop. I just found out recently how valuable they are now to antique collectors. Who would have thought it? Oh + BTW, I STILL carry a P-38 on my keyring + my sons have taken up the habit as well.


Never mistake motion for action.
17 October 2020, 17:38
Bill/Oregon
Randy, I carried a P-38 on my key ring as well, a long time ago. I found the hinged hook came open at awkward times in my pocket and gave up the practice, but good on you for sticking with it.


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
– John Green, author
17 October 2020, 22:00
nopride2
A proper straight blade screwdriver used correctly is as strong as the others.

Dave
19 October 2020, 07:13
Use Enough Gun
quote:
Speaking of openers, I still have several of the "old style" church keys hanging on the wall in my shop. I just found out recently how valuable they are now to antique collectors. Who would have thought it?


Let me tell you a story. I have a very nice display case in the house foyer-full of African items. We have had it for 16 years. It is locked. My grandkids got a hold of the skeleton key used to open it (the only one that came with it) and lost it. I thought that it would be easy to find a replacement. WRONG! It took me a month of purchasing different skeleton keys, and finally contacting the distributor in North Carolina(they hadn't exported items like that from the original manufacturer for years), who just happened to have one old skeleton key that they thought might fit it. Lo and behold it did and it opened, but just barely. Yes, old church keys, skeleton keys, etc. can be quite valuable! tu2
22 October 2020, 09:15
NormanConquest
O.K. dating myself again ( + you who can relate), I always kept an oil spout wrapped in a rag under the seat. In those days all we had was cardboard cans w/ metal tops that required an opener/spout. I understand those are of collectors' interest today as well. Mine is in new condition as it was coated in oil + wrapped in a rag all the time.


Never mistake motion for action.
26 October 2020, 07:23
Use Enough Gun
quote:
I always kept an oil spout wrapped in a rag under the seat.

Randy: Me too! In all of my cars and trucks. And the rag was usually one of those red service station rags. Big Grin
26 October 2020, 18:14
Bill/Oregon
quote:
Originally posted by Use Enough Gun:
quote:
I always kept an oil spout wrapped in a rag under the seat.

Randy: Me too! In all of my cars and trucks. And the rag was usually one of those red service station rags. Big Grin


This right here, down to that red rag ...


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
– John Green, author
27 October 2020, 08:49
NormanConquest
You got it! That's exactly what it was.


Never mistake motion for action.