Too much time on their hands

22 February 2023, 09:08

Norman Conquest

This is in regards to what I saw today concerning legislation being passed that would make it a crime in Florida for a dog to have his head out of a vehicle. What a crock! I'm happier when those "law makers" are getting drunk in a strip joint than when they are coming up with BS new laws.

22 February 2023, 17:11

p dog shooter

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This is in regards to what I saw today concerning legislation being passed that would make it a crime in Florida for a dog to have his head out of a vehicle

I believe it only applies when the dog is sitting on the drivers lap.

One would think common sense would apply.

But we known many lack it.

22 February 2023, 18:40

Saeed

Common sense?

In laws?

Hahahahaha!

22 February 2023, 23:26

Use Enough Gun

quote:
Common sense?

In laws?

Hahahahaha!

No, Common sense. . . . IN PEOPLE!

23 February 2023, 08:40

Norman Conquest

Like the old saying, "If it's common, it's not sense, + if it's sense, it's damn sure not common."

23 February 2023, 17:17

Peter

The proposed legislation in Florida will do several things:
Prohibit allowing dogs to stick their head out of the car window.
Prohibit driving with a dog on your lap
Prohibit declawing of cats
End animal testing of cosmetic products.
Peter.

23 February 2023, 18:53

Aspen Hill Adventures

Now if they would make a law prohibiting people putting their dogs in grocery carts and bringing them into stores selling food.

23 February 2023, 19:26

theback40

The dogs are cleaner than some of the kids I've seen in carts.

24 February 2023, 09:02

Norman Conquest

True, that! Reminds me of the comedian who talked about the white trash women beating their kids in Walmart, telling the kids, "Just wait until your Daddy gets home; we're going to Walmart!"

26 February 2023, 08:45

lavaca

We've got a lot of laws. They keep making more. Do we ever take any off the books? I think it's still illegal in Texas to carry a pair of sidecutters in your saddlebags.

26 February 2023, 11:20

DCS Member

quote:
Originally posted by lavaca:
We've got a lot of laws. They keep making more. Do we ever take any off the books? I think it's still illegal in Texas to carry a pair of sidecutters in your saddlebags.

I believe our Texas Constitution is one of the longest, but I can’t confirm. I’ve heard the same about fencing tools.

Yes, many need to be repealed.

Lavaca, I would vote for you at Lt. Governor, AG, or State Senator (although the State Senator vote would have to be LBJ style).

27 February 2023, 08:56

Norman Conquest

Our constitution is the one from 1869. That is very important in regards to firearm laws, although many have been updated for the better. I was arrested in 1978 coming back from a match because I had a pistol in the car. The cop just didn't know the law. I wqas legal, but I got the privelrge of spending the night in the tank + spending an attorneys fees to prove it. I really don't begrudge the lawyers fees because I learned a lot about how the law at that time read. It has all changed now dur to CHL + open carry, but back then it was no joke. Although I must admit that the best part of the whole fiasco was when I was brought in the following morning to the judge, an old buddy of mine (A Williamson Co. Deputy) was on duty + informed the judge that I was a good guy so he waived bail + afterwards all charges were dropped. That arresting cop was furious! He was just an asshole. I found out later that he had even given his own mother a traffic ticket. O.K. concerning the fence pliers routine, theres the old joke about the cowboy riding into town with a pair in his saddlebags + the sherrif arrested him for fence cutting, rustling, +trespassing. The cowboy says, "But I never did any of those things." The judge says, "Well, you had the equipment for it." So the cowboy says, "Well, in that case you might as well charge me with rape too."

03 March 2023, 11:55

georgeld

Well, did they??

George

03 March 2023, 14:56

DCS Member

quote:
Originally posted by Norman Conquest:
Our constitution is the one from 1869. That is very important in regards to firearm laws, although many have been updated for the better. I was arrested in 1978 coming back from a match because I had a pistol in the car. The cop just didn't know the law. I wqas legal, but I got the privelrge of spending the night in the tank + spending an attorneys fees to prove it. I really don't begrudge the lawyers fees because I learned a lot about how the law at that time read. It has all changed now dur to CHL + open carry, but back then it was no joke. Although I must admit that the best part of the whole fiasco was when I was brought in the following morning to the judge, an old buddy of mine (A Williamson Co. Deputy) was on duty + informed the judge that I was a good guy so he waived bail + afterwards all charges were dropped. That arresting cop was furious! He was just an asshole. I found out later that he had even given his own mother a traffic ticket. O.K. concerning the fence pliers routine, theres the old joke about the cowboy riding into town with a pair in his saddlebags + the sherrif arrested him for fence cutting, rustling, +trespassing. The cowboy says, "But I never did any of those things." The judge says, "Well, you had the equipment for it." So the cowboy says, "Well, in that case you might as well charge me with rape too."

There was likely an affirmative defense being traveling with a handgun back then

Williamson County has been one of the dirtiest in Texas when it comes to egregious prosecution. The Michael Morton act being one:

https://www.texastribune.org/2...rberates-across-tex/

They cleared out and even indicted many of the DA, who later became a judge. That was not the only indiscretion in “Wilco.”

https://time.com/5745028/the-c...y-lee-lucas-netflix/

https://youtu.be/8Azu4CXkitI

04 March 2023, 08:57

Norman Conquest

Believer me, I could tell you a lot of graft stories about Wilco, many of them from personal knowledge about the events, but nothing will ever come of it. They just do what they want. And you are right about the Michael Morton case. I had personal dealings with the Wilco prosecuting attorney (Kenneth Anderson), + he was a real piece of work. he should have gone to prison + lose his retirement, but no, not in Wilco.

04 March 2023, 10:35

lavaca

DCS:

Flattering, but I have no political aspirations. In fact, I hate all politicians. If I ran, I'd hate myself.

04 March 2023, 11:22

DCS Member

quote:
Originally posted by Norman Conquest:
Believer me, I could tell you a lot of graft stories about Wilco, many of them from personal knowledge about the events, but nothing will ever come of it. They just do what they want. And you are right about the Michael Morton case. I had personal dealings with the Wilco prosecuting attorney (Kenneth Anderson), + he was a real piece of work. he should have gone to prison + lose his retirement, but no, not in Wilco.

I actually did get a good deal out of Wilco about a year ago. A young BM with a UPF, but somehow got it as a CD with community service and a class. Of course, the pistol had to be forfeited. I suppose I got lucky with the ADA. There were questions about the stop, but the deal was too great to pass up.

Michael Morton has spoken at some CLEs and I can’t imagine what he went through. I also did some Innocence Project work in law school. Some of those guys really got screwed. Henry Wade was originally under J. Edgar Hoover. Luckily, records were retained.