27 January 2017, 21:13
GatogordoWe should be so lucky.......
.....I wonder how many people and businesses would leave?
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Officials announce proposal that would establish California as separate nation
Published January 27, 2017 FoxNews.com
Will California secede from US following Trump's election?
A proposal for California to secede from the United States was submitted to the Secretary of State’s Office Thursday.
The proposed “Calexit” initiative - its name borrowed from the UK's "Brexit" departure from the EU - would ask voters to repeal part of the state constitution that declares California an inseparable part of the U.S.
A recent poll found that one in three California residents would support a possible secession from the U.S. due to their opposition to President Trump. No mention has been made of the president in the proposal.
If the proposal qualifies for the ballot and is approved by voters, it could be a step to a future vote on whether the state would break away from the rest of the nation.
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Secretary of State Alex Padilla said the group behind the proposal, Yes California Independence Campaign, was cleared to begin attempting to collect nearly 600,000 voter signatures needed to place the plan on the ballot.
"In our view, the United States of America represents so many things that conflict with Californian values, and our continued statehood means California will continue subsidizing the other states to our own detriment, and to the detriment of our children," the Yes campaign's website says.
Similar attempts to establish California as a nation, or break it into multiple states, have failed.
The proposed constitutional amendment, titled California Nationhood, would also ask voters to repeal language that states the U.S. Constitution is the supreme law. If approved, it calls for scheduling a vote in 2019 to ask voters, "Should California become a free, sovereign and independent country?"
"America already hates California, and America votes on emotions," Marcus Evans, vice president of Yes California told the Los Angeles Times. "I think we'd have the votes today if we held it."
The campaign must submit the valid voter signatures by July 25 to qualify for the ballot.
28 January 2017, 23:09
drhall762You are correct, we should be so lucky to get rid of the land of fruits and nuts. I know then where we could put the next wall. Maybe we could round up all of our progressives and ship them to the "Free State of California."
29 January 2017, 01:22
TWallWe don't like the election results so we are going to pickup our marbles and leave! Oh boy!
There is so much that comes out of southern CA that drives me crazy. I would love see them go. But, there are a lot of great places in CA, great hunting and fishing.
This too shall pass,
Tom
29 January 2017, 07:59
TWLGrizz:
Yes, in theory, California would be able to afford it.
California is one of a few states that pays more to the fed in taxes and fees than it takes from the fed. So, in theory, they would come out with a net with respect to federal funding, believe it or not.
Nevertheless, it would be a huge $$ loss to the state. Whether the typical Californian is willing to make the necessary adjustments in order to continue the various entitlement programs AND the California life style, remains to be seen.
In reality, this is nothing but noise. Absolute BS. It's fraught with myriad practical issues let alone Constitutional ones.
As TWall says, "....this too, shall pass."
29 January 2017, 17:59
drhall762Maybe they can afford it but probably not. IIRC personal income tax is at 13% and there expenditures due to Illegal Aliens are climbing.
There best bet would be to secede, establish recognition with the UN and then ask the US for foreign aid.