20 September 2012, 07:11
thecanadianBrowning 1919
I am currently in a military history course post 1945. We were watching the movie Porkchop Hill. In the movie the professor was pointing out several guns: M14's, M1 carbine, Garands. One thing that didn't sit right with me is that the professor identified the Browning 1919 machine gun as a BAR. It was always my understanding that when one referred to a BAR they were referring to the Browning 1918. Can anyone clarify? I just want to make sure my suspisions are correct with someone with real world experience before I confront the prof. about this.
20 September 2012, 20:01
poprivit1919A4 is a belt-fed, crew-served MG shooting 30-06, 8mm, or 308 depending on setup. BAR is 1918 LARGE rifle with 20 rnd magazine in 30-06. No similarities except for caliber.
04 October 2012, 07:17
lavacaWhile M14's may have been in the film, which is a definite possibility, I doubt seriously if they were on Porkchop hill, which was in 1953, if I recall correctly. The M14's predecessor was in trials at that point and the M14 was not adopted until 1959. It was, IMHO one of the finest rifles ever made.
04 October 2012, 10:27
Norman ConquestDitto Lavaca,you said it all + saved my time.
08 October 2012, 00:47
TCLouisAs Lavaca and N.C. said they M 14 is it.
Patton would have said surpassed his best battle instrument referring to the M 1 if he had only been there to do so.
Take a proven weapon and improve a few things, slightly lighten the ammo load with just slightly reduced ballistics and you got all!
08 October 2012, 02:58
GrenadierEven the 1919A6 with a pistol grip and shoulder stock is so different from a BAR that one cannot be confused with the other.