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01 February 2013, 00:20
Alberta Canuck
A situation
Last night I was released from hospital into hospice care.

As you know, I have a large firearms collection, hundreds of bullet moulds, over 100 sets of loading and forming dies, all kinds of loading tools and casting equipment, enough components for maybe 100,00 rounds of jacketed ammo, etc. I also have hundreds of desirable books still on hand on shooting, hunting, etc.

I am trying to work out how to best dspose of all this stuff in the unknown brief time I have left. Most of it is sporting rilfes, not collector's pieces, but the most accurate, most interesting of a lifetime of testing, hunting, and competing with rifles. There are also maybe a dozen or so pistols.

I also have new, high-quality barrels, spare scopes, and a few actions.

I cannot wrap and ship any of it myself, so am looking at a number of options...

1. Hold a large auction in Prescott, AZ, and/or

2. Post many of them here on AR where my local dealer could then pick them up once a week or so and ship the sold ones, and/or

3. Sell them all lump sum to one buyer.

Or there may be an option of wich I have not yet thought.

Your helpful suggestions would be welcomed.

Thank you.
01 February 2013, 00:33
blaser93
First sorry to about you.

Auction may be the way to go in time is a worry . May not get as much as if you pieced it out.
Sell on here is a good thing , grate people on here to deal with. Just have to have some one mail and pack things.

I am interested in see what you have if you sell on here.

whish you the best and Take care.
01 February 2013, 00:47
ryry4
Sorry to hear. I'm in the market for a few hunting rifles/shotguns. I'm in the Phoenix area, if you are looking to break up the collection I may be interested in some.
01 February 2013, 00:54
INTJ
I too am very saddened to hear of your situation. My prayers are with you and your family.

Selling to a single buyer or an auction may be the simplest, but wouldn't the most rewarding way be to sell them here and have your local dealer ship them for you? All of us will eventually be in your situation, and I think I'd like to know who my firearms are going to and that they will be continue to be cherished.
01 February 2013, 00:55
Snowwolfe
Our hearts go out to you and your family. May your journey be a warm and pain free one to whatever is on the other side.

Auction. Most of the large firearm auctions I have attended have resulted with most of the firearms selling for more than there expected value. Try contracting with a local Auction company.


My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
01 February 2013, 00:57
Pegleg
Find your friendly FFL that you trust and have him handle your estate in the way of shooting related items. That way your family will benifit the most from your hobby.

So sorry for your condition.


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01 February 2013, 01:07
wasbeeman
It's true that auctioned firearms often bring more than book value but when you subtract the hefty commission of the autioneers, it's not so much.


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01 February 2013, 01:09
akrange
Prayers...
01 February 2013, 01:11
Doubless
Sir, sincere thoughts and prayers to you and yours. I would think posting here and shipping would offer advantages, but I may be very wrong. And I would think that an auction broker would significantly lessen what came from the auction, but I don't know...
01 February 2013, 01:13
ramrod340
quote:
Find your friendly FFL that you trust and have him handle your estate in the way of shooting related items. That way your family will benifit the most from your hobby.

I'm so sorry to hear this. My prayers to you and your family.

As to your question I have to agree with Pegleg.


As usual just my $.02
Paul K
01 February 2013, 01:15
thunder stick
Selling here or breaking up NO. You and your family do not need the hassle at this time.

Ffl dealer, no. You would be paying close to the same commission as you would an auction but it could take months or years to sell eveything.

Auction, yes. You will pay a commission but you hand them over and they take care of everything. The collection is sold in one or two days. Get your money 30 days after the end of the auction. Riata Pass in Prescott? If you have enough I imagine they would charge about 20%


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01 February 2013, 01:16
240 GIBBS
Sorry to hear of your condition. I would hold a auction in AZ, but I would want the auction company to be affilated with Proxibid for open internet bidding, in regards to gain maximum exposure of items up for bid.
01 February 2013, 01:48
vmthtr in Green Bay
Have close friend you trust?


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01 February 2013, 01:54
Will
Damn, sorry to see this. Best of luck on your sales and hoping for the best for you.


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01 February 2013, 02:14
JTEX
Prayers to you and your family.

I don't know what I'd do in this situation but the Auction route seems best.



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01 February 2013, 02:21
GeorgeS
AC,

I'm sorry to hear your health has failed. I have enjoyed your posts over the years.

I would recommend you compile a catalog of the items you wish to sell. Break it down into major categories: Long guns, handguns, optics, ammunition, ammunition components, gun parts, books, accessories (holsters, slings, dies, etc.).

Place a fair market value and post them for sale here (you may wish to bundle accessories together to minimize your hassle).

Items not requiring an FFL can be shipped from your home. The USPS will deliver flat-rate boxes to your home free of charge; you can sign up for a USPS account and save on postage by pre-paying it. The USPS will also pick up from your home. NOTE: Ammunition may not be shipped via USPS; if I remember the Domesstic Mail Manual, you may mail long guns but you have to do that at a Post Office.

My prayers are with you and your family.

George


01 February 2013, 02:47
Bill73
So sorry to hear this,prayers sent.


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01 February 2013, 02:50
larrys
AC, I am truly saddened by your news. May God bless.

I would find a good auctioneer. It is simplest and it can alleviate a worry quickly and fairly easily.


Larry

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01 February 2013, 02:59
Marty
AC-
I'm sorry for your situation. You have a great deal on your mind right now, as do all who are close to you. Since you wish to make disposition of your collection, I am assuming there are no interested parties amongst your heirs.
I would think keeping it as simple as possible would have great value to you just now. While selling bit by bit might bring a tad more, is it worth the hassle? I would think the right auction house would be able to manage all this for you, thereby earning their commission.
I hope your remaining time is peaceful for you, and the transition as well. May God bless you and yours.
01 February 2013, 03:34
jimatcat
sorry to hear of your situation... i will continue to enjoy your posts.... you and your family are in my prayers... as to selling off your things, i'd suggest an auction house.. rock island auctions ... they catalogue everything, it brings top dollar... i'd also contact an ebay power seller... someone that specializes in sporting goods... they'll take their cut, but it will sell at top dollar...


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01 February 2013, 03:38
Lhook7
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.


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01 February 2013, 03:50
284Win
AC, so very sorry to hear of your plight. May God comfort both you and your family as you begin this homeward journey. If you have a close family friend, discuss the groups of items with them and and ask them to take care of them after you've completed your journey. Can be discussed now and handled later. This way you have the satisfaction of knowing that things will be handled as you would like them handled. I agree with the other poster that this is not something you personally need to handle on a daily basis. You have bigger thoughts to think. But working out a plan with a trusted friend may give you some comfort and actually take your mind off things occasionally. If there is no one you and your family trust, then perhaps the auction might be best.

Best wishes, Sir.


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01 February 2013, 03:55
Badger Matt
Just a quick, albeit uninvited, observation. You are a man of character; caring for others instead of yourself. I'll include you in prayers and lift a glass to a class act. Well done.

Fair winds and following seas...
01 February 2013, 04:19
Woodrow S
AC, I am very sorry to hear of your condition. I will say a prayer for you. Best bet is to find an auctioneer with a good reputation and auction most of your collection, however I know you cherish the relationships you built here over the years so it may be of some comfort to sell a few items here and know those items will be sold to and will be held in high regard by members of AR. As was already stated......you are a class act and will be remembered long after you are gone.

Woody
01 February 2013, 05:05
billrquimby
I agree that an auction is the way to do it. I'd also suggest that the auctioneer post the date and location on AR. There are lots of members who live here or spend winters here.

Bill Quimby
01 February 2013, 05:27
Duckear
So very sorry to hear of your illness.

At first glance, at a time like this, I cannot imagine why you would worry about your firearms. But at the same time, they obviously have been a big part of your life, and settling your collection in a responsible and thoughtful manner is more than understandable, at least to this gun nut.

Perhaps listing a favorite or two here with the story behind it would be a more meaningful and enjoyable way to part with your favorites.

For moving large numbers of firearms, I agree, an auction will be the easiest on you and your family.

I trust God to be gracious and merciful to you and your family.


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01 February 2013, 05:34
D Humbarger
Our prayers are with you amd your family A.C. I have always enjoyed reading your post. God Bless.



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01 February 2013, 05:39
7MMNut
AC,

Very sorry to see your post, I have also gleaned much from your posts here on AR. I'm on the other side of the valley from you in south Chandler. If you end up not going to auction or have things you don't sell at auction, please post it here. I'd be happy to do a face to face transaction.
01 February 2013, 05:43
RSIMMONS
God bless you.
01 February 2013, 05:53
Paul Reed
AC,

I sincerely hope you are wrong and jumping the gun on your condition...modern medicine can work miracles and perhaps you are overreacting a bit. I have always enjoyed your posts. My prayers are with you.
I agree with George’s approach of cataloging them since you know the guns best and can ensure that you get the appropriate price. It might be a bit of work but perhaps it will be therapeutic for you in a way. AR is a great place to sell and the market is hot these days so you might be surprised how well you will do. A lot of us will be interested in what you have.

Good luck and stay positive,
Paul


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01 February 2013, 05:59
bwoodie
My thoughts and prayers are sent to you and your family.
01 February 2013, 06:04
dpcd
Very sorry. Call Rock Island Auctions and they will come and get it all and they get some very nice prices for people. Take care and God bless you.
01 February 2013, 06:06
Kebco
Auction. If you are in hospice you have more pressing things to do than screwing around with this.
Commissions are negotiable, I pay 11%. Work with the auctioneer to develop the descriptions.
Best of luck.


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01 February 2013, 06:07
bull1
Alberta Canuck, I do not know you and I have all the firearms and associated items I need. I only wish you peace and comfort in this difficult time. Bull1
01 February 2013, 06:12
ray in Wenatchee
AC, my thoughts are with you tonight, I just want to mention that another forum I visit did have a on-line auction for a member's personal items when he wanted to sell his living estate. Forum members could bid and funds sent to a single address. Regards, r in w.
01 February 2013, 06:43
ssdave
AC,

My condolences also, you will be missed. I have always enjoyed reading your posts, even when we have disagreed.

I would recommend a reputable auction house handle the firearms. The high prices they get on good stuff pays the commission they charge. And, it's handled without a lot of hassle for you and your family.

The gunsmithing and loading stuff, is more difficult. Shipping costs and the effort of selling become problematic for an auctioneer, so they often lump stuff together and don't do well. If a local auction, you often saturate the market quickly.

Selling to a single buyer that has the capability of reselling it is a good way to go for the smaller stuff. It gives you a fixed price, and gets it done with a minimum of fuss. Trying to sell piecemeal is difficult, the first buyers will take the underpriced stuff (and try to bargain you down)and there will be remnants that get real difficult to sell at the end. I've had two friends go through that in the past 3 years. Both thought they would do well by selling by the piece. One ended up getting about 30 to 40% of what I estimated the total worth was when it was said and done. The other is still trying to get rid of the last 30% of the stuff, and had to discount the 50% before that extremely to get it to sell. And, he gave up a profit on the first 20% by selling it too cheap.

Good luck and best wishes in this stage of your life.

dave
01 February 2013, 06:43
p dog shooter
Take care it has been nice shareing the forum with you.
01 February 2013, 06:56
friarmeier
AC, I wish you all the best and all of God's blessings in our Lord Jesus. May you be at peace!

Many of your friends have given very good advice here. Know this: whatever decision you make, let your mind & heart be at rest - for your decision will be a good one, and whether the details work out quickly or over time, you can trust they will come to a good end.

You, my friend, are soon to realize the words of our brother St. Paul: "What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the human heart conceived, what God has prepared for those who love him."

Peace to you, brother,

friar


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01 February 2013, 07:05
Dieseltrucker
God bless you. Prayers to you and your family.
01 February 2013, 07:44
BJB
Canuck,
My thoughts and prayers are with you. I know that over the years past you and I have bought sold or swapped something. If there is anything that I can do for you please ask! I to sincerely pray that you know Jesus as your Savior and the only way, truth and light. May your last days be peaceful with your loved ones close by.
Best regards,
Bruce in Hanover