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04 August 2018, 18:08
Sevens
Swapping horns on completed mounts
Question for the taxidermists here. I have a life size common bush duiker mount that was not done well. I’m looking at the viability of my options to fix the mount as it just bothers me because the face does not look like a duiker.

I’ve explored having it remounted, but I was also curious about how simple it would be to pop the horns off my mount and swap them with the horns of an already completed mount? Two advantages I see to this are, first, I know the mount I would be swapping it to looks good as it’s already done and I can inspect it and, two, I could probably use the horns off the new mount to replace the ones on my current mount and resell it to recoup some of the costs.

Just curious if this idea would be feasible?


Also, before someone goes on to lecture about getting your stuff done here instead of Africa. Mount was done stateside by a taxidermist who had a good reputation at the time and had done work for me before, but during the course of mounting my African animals seemed to become interest in other pursuits and neglected his taxidermy business. Talked with others who had similar issues with him as well.


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04 August 2018, 21:52
BuffHunter63
I've always thought mixing horns/antlers with different capes seemed to be slightly fraudulent, but that is JMO.

Would it be possible to remove the cape and horns from a completed mount and remount the entire thing on a different form?

Good luck.

BH63


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04 August 2018, 21:58
Ricardo C
Post some photos of the bad and good heads , so we can see what you want to do.
04 August 2018, 22:38
BNagel
African taxis often don't epoxy the horns on, but ours do. That said, I have Euro mounts of kudu both ways and they are NOT interchangeable. The horn cores, even if sawn shorter for ease of transport/shipping the horns (wrapped separately in the same crate) and skulls are individual. So, likely the look will still be "weird".

Also, FWIW, my mounted kudu is now on it's second cape, using a set of natural colored blonde horns I bought off a local taxidermist who had them and the skull + horns for a project he never got around to. I did this to NOT have blackened horns from the dip and pack process (vs. maceration) on the kudu I've been enjoying since 2006. It's your mount, so do what brings you pleasure. Just keep it honest if it doesn't represent your actual trophy. Heck, I even added an eBay bought ivory tip to one side to make it balanced. Apoxy and gunstock stain have let me get away with what I want. The capes are from my own hunts, and the Euro "shield" mounts make good decoration elsewhere in my house, even if they are shiny black.


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04 August 2018, 23:16
Sevens
Buff, that’s one of the other options I was investigating. The body part wouldn’t need to be remounted, but the head needs to be redone and I would want a little more turn if going that route.




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20 November 2018, 03:25
Mike_Dettorre
I have had a Taxidermist do it when I shot a better impala. The cost was very reasonable.

Fraudulent? really? taxidermist replace damaged capes with undamaged capes all the time.

When I brought in my deer head to be euro mounted they asked what I was going to do with the cape because they would give me a $50 credit towards my work because "we always need good capes". Unless an animal had some unique pattern on their hide can somebody really tell one impala, deer, elk, moose etc from its face?

I don't think I have ever heard anyone say, "I recognize that elk his head is burnt umber and that other one was chocolate brown with a hint of grey."


Mike



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20 November 2018, 08:33
Use Enough Gun
I had something similar a number of years ago. I had taken the grand slam of South African Springbok and when they arrived, the horns on the black springbok (outstanding) had been mounted on the common springbok (typical). Only I really know the issue, but I've never explored it to see if the horns could be safely taken off and switched. Of course, all of my large antelope trophies have detachable horns. Big Grin
20 November 2018, 17:33
nobody2
Remounting the head is simple on your duiker. But it depends on how old the mount is ( sometimes, not always .
Tanning quality determines the possibility it might fall apart when softened with water. I would suspect that yours will be fine to remount.
08 December 2018, 08:35
georgeld
This may be irrelevant.
First season after WWII, Dad and 4 BIL's
went hunting. One killed a 187.7pt Mulie.
His wife wouldn't let him have it in the house.
So he hung it in the garage next to a window.
It was mounted short necked upright. The sun ate the ear and most of the hair off, eye was white.
Really looked like shit. He died in '73, she died in '95. I told the grandson's: "If none of you boys want that head I do, don't throw it out".

A few years later I got a call to go get it.
When I killed an average buck, the taxi said that wasn't big enough cape. But, he had a road kill the cape was perfect, horns busted up. He'd swap me for $20. So we did and he remounted it in a L sneak pose. As perfect a taxi job as many of us have ever inspected.

Dad and I took it to show his brother. First thing he said was: "that's Teague's buck". I have it on the wall. Wish I could kill a buck equal in size.

Don't be afraid to swap horns or capes if your taxi knows what he's doing. IF he don't, you sure don't want his work anyway.

George


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15 January 2019, 07:03
george roof
Maybe I read the original post wrong but then someone started with the "ethical" crap along the way. I have swapped horns numerous times over the years for clients and a multitude of reasons. As "nobody" stated, the only issue becomes the quality of the tan, but a good hide can easily be rehydrated, stitches cut, horns and skull cap removed, replaced and resewn where no one except you know the difference.


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11 April 2019, 23:17
Atkinson
You can just take them off one and slide them on the other...I see no reason for a taxidermist..In most cases they arrive in the crate with the skull and the horns separated. there is a base that the horns slip over..


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

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11 April 2019, 23:21
Atkinson
As to ethical, whats that all about, capes age and wear out, turn brown, so are we supposed to throw the trophy in the dumpster..As the horns get bigger I'll swap them out and retire the old set to my shop wall..

I also shot a monster Buffalo and got it mounted in RSA, they used a damn holstien bull case..I had the horns put on another buffalo head I had that was correct and its beautiful, the RSA mount was horrible and stupid looking.


Ray Atkinson
Atkinson Hunting Adventures
10 Ward Lane,
Filer, Idaho, 83328
208-731-4120

rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com