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If all you can have is 4 rifles..
30 May 2010, 04:00
NortmanIf all you can have is 4 rifles..
First of, I love to read this topics.. I always think of new things I could possibly buy. Now, I wanted to make my own, but with some limitations.
1. A 22lr and a shotgun is not accounted for, since everybody should have one, so with this you are up to 6 firearms. I just want to know your other 4.
2. Not the Big 5.. of course you could choose a 375H&H or larger. Just not for the Big 5.
30 May 2010, 04:28
Mike_Dettorrewell if a 375hh is not needed and a 12 ga and 22 lr are already accounted for then...
I only need two: a 270 win and a 338 win mag
MikeLegistine actu quod scripsi?
Never under estimate the internet community's ability to reply to your post with their personal rant about their tangentially related, single occurrence issue.
What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
30 May 2010, 04:58
CA Safari HunterThe 4 that I will never sell are my –
223 Weatherby Vanguard
270 Remington 700 Mnt
300 Remington 700 SS/DM
375 H&H CZ
30 May 2010, 05:48
Sevenxbjt243 Winchester, 300 Weatherby & 375 H&H. No need for a fourth for me.
30 May 2010, 07:53
SnellstromI have a 22/250 that I've had since 1976 Ruger M77(I bought it at the age of 15) I've re-barreled it once and will probably keep it forever although in the long run I wish it was a .223 for ammo's sake.
I have a .257 Roberts built on a Husky action and a Pac Nor super match barrel that was a caliber I wanted since childhood and now have one the last 4 years or so and have killed a small pile of Deer, Antelope and Coyotes with it, that rifle is going to be with me forever.
I have a 30/06 that I've had since 1986 Win M70 "Lightweight" pushfeed in a "Wintuff" brown laminate stock. This rifle has accounted for a great big pile of Deer, Elk, Antelope, Coyotes, a Bighorn Sheep and a Mountain Goat and has ridden for hundreds of miles on my shoulder. This rifle is going nowhere.
Then I'm left with some tough choices for the fourth. Its a toss up between my .338 Win Mag, 9.3x62, .375 H&H and a project or two I have yet to complete (400 Whelen!) This fourth choice however is meaningless as I would hunt everything in North America with the rifles I already named above.
quote:
Originally posted by Sevenxbjt:
243 Winchester, 300 Weatherby & 375 H&H. No need for a fourth for me.
Exactly what I would recomend and use!!!
30 May 2010, 21:11
phurley5For me there would be my .243 WSSM, .270 WSM, .300 Winny, and .358 STA. If I can be so bold to list my second four, all of these are from my present rifles. A .257 Wby, 7mm STW, .338 Lapua, .416 Rem. If I could get bolder and list a third four, also from my rifles that I shoot weekly. My .25 WSSM, .270 WSM, .340 Wby, .416 Rigby. I can make a fourth list, but not to bore anyone, these will do. Good shooting.
phurley
30 May 2010, 21:45
landkillerMy 4 would be, 223 rem,25-06, 7mm Rem. Mag, and 338 Win.Mag.
30 May 2010, 23:44
GeedubyaI A I C H I 4 R,
I would be despondent.
GWB
Why would you NEED more then one? Fact of life is that you figure out a way to make what you have work.
Now if I could choose four I would still only use two.
223 and 270.
I would never sell my 10/22 the first firearm I ever owned. Nor would I sell my custom 7mag which was a gift.
Howard
Moses Lake, Washington USA
hwhomes@outlook.com
31 May 2010, 01:31
GeedubyaHoward,
If your serious, I don't think I could explain it to you!
GWB
31 May 2010, 01:57
Steve LefforgeThe four that I would stick with for me.
22-250
7mm Rem Mag
378 Weatherby Mag
460 Weatherby Mag
Thank God, we can have more.
To all the men and women past and present in the armed forces. Thank You
Steve
4 guns, boy the wifey sure wants to hear about this idear.
For my uses in the Alaska Interior have to be:
10-22
AR-15
7 mag
338 mag
AR for hunting off snowmachine. 7 Mag for sheep, moose, and caribou. 338 mag for bear or bison (if I ever get a tag). The 10-22 for plinking debris floating down the Yukon this time of year and all around use in the woods.
Only need 1-----
my .340 weatherby. It will take care of anything that roams in my neighborhood.
I have all I want or need:
.270 Winchester Heym SR-30
.300 Win Mag Heym SR-30
9.3x74R Chapuis double
Yep, I have a POS .22 for squirrels and eight SxS shotguns. Can't have enough SxSs but as far as rifles go, this is all I want....unless....
Oxon
31 May 2010, 03:09
CamoManJThis would be my choice:
1.) .223 AR-15
2.) .240 WBY Mag
3.) .300 WSM Custom
4.) .338 Lapua
of course, in addition to my trusty .22lr & scatterguns.
"A Lone Hunter is the Best Hunter..."
31 May 2010, 03:30
Slowpoke SlimIf I could only have 4 rifles, I would also be too despondent to hunt. So I guess it would be a moot point.
I guess I'd have to look at it as the ones I wouldn't separate from (without bloodshed that is)
1. Rem BDL 308 (it was my father's)
2. Win 70 30-06 (it was my uncle's)
3. Win 70 338 win mag, kills elk like the fist of GOD
4. Can't decide on either my Wby 257 mag, or my Win 70 fwt 257 AI, but one of those 2 for smaller deer.
Si tantum EGO eram dimidium ut bonus ut EGO memor
quote:
Originally posted by Geedubya:
Howard,
If your serious, I don't think I could explain it to you!
GWB
dead serious as long as we really are talking NEED>
Howard
Moses Lake, Washington USA
hwhomes@outlook.com
31 May 2010, 06:17
Geedubyakinda like taking a breath before going under water. I need more oxygen. One breath will only last so long.
Best
GWB
01 June 2010, 09:37
Sevens1. 25-06
2. 300 Win Mag
3. 375 H&H
4. 404 Jeffery
I'd be quite happy using this combo for the entire world. So far my 30-06 alone has been working great for everything in North America though.
01 June 2010, 16:11
Bob in TX600 Overkill.......I'm not that tough Andy!
Since it is summer, I'll play:
22-250
7mm-08
300 WSM
375 H&H
And
need has nothing to do with it.
01 June 2010, 16:25
GeedubyaBob,
remember, he's not called the "south texas sasquatch" without good reason.
GWB
01 June 2010, 18:14
Ingvar J. KristjanssonI'll play too:
1. 223
2. 25-06
3. 300 Win Mag
4. 338 Win Mag or 9.3x62
And if I ever go to Africa...
5. 458 Lott
01 June 2010, 22:32
larrysSince it said four and nothing about need.
.223
.260 (or 264Win Mag)
.308
30-06.
With these, you can take anything in the world, IF loaded properly.
Larry
"Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading" -- Thomas Jefferson
01 June 2010, 23:19
Bob in TXquote:
Bob,
remember, he's not called the "south texas sasquatch" without good reason.
GWB
I know! drewhenrytnt on left, yours truly on right.......
Bob
01 June 2010, 23:28
muygrandeI might go with all roy's if I could have only four like the 240, 300, 378 and 460.
02 June 2010, 07:33
GrenadierHoward makes a very good point about NEED. For the lower 48 a 300 H&H would fill all my hunting NEEDs. If including AK then the 375 H&H would fill all my NEEDs.
But, to what I think was the intent of the post:
.223 (5.56mm)
7x65R (or 7x64 or .280)
300 H&H
375 H&H
.
02 June 2010, 08:14
DuggaBoyeSo the .22LR and 12Ga are in in the truck,
and only four others can go:
223 Semi Stag 8L or FN 2000 (Probably the Stag)
308 Semi BM-59 or KelTec RFB ( nod to the BM)
408 Chey-Tac (less practical ammo-wise long-range choice) (Hate to leave the Blaser 338 and the 300RUM)
50 BMG Barrett (the other biggies stay)
Which requires (most painfully) leaving my first love:
6.5x54 MS
my .405 and my other numerous calibres to
languish in the safe as I leave.
But, I can forage with and face most anything
wherever I go , with the quartet above..
DuggaBoye-O
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02 June 2010, 08:22
safari-lawyerquote:
Originally posted by Mike_Dettorre:
well if a 375hh is not needed and a 12 ga and 22 lr are already accounted for then...
I only need two: a 270 win and a 338 win mag
I was thinking the same, but TWO 270s and TWO 338s!
Will J. Parks, III
02 June 2010, 22:14
buckeyeshooter22 long and 12ga as givens, then;
1) 22 hornet
2) 30-06
3) 338wm
4) 458 lott
03 June 2010, 00:04
Ackley Improved User1. 22 BR
2. 257 AI
3. 300 WM
4. 375 H&H AI
03 June 2010, 06:10
SDhunterEasy,
22-270
270 WCF
338-06
9.3x64 Brenneke
03 June 2010, 06:17
B. L. O'Connorquote:
Originally posted by Nortman:
First of, I love to read this topics.. I always think of new things I could possibly buy. Now, I wanted to make my own, but with some limitations.
1. A 22lr and a shotgun is not accounted for, since everybody should have one, so with this you are up to 6 firearms. I just want to know your other 4.
2. Not the Big 5.. of course you could choose a 375H&H or larger. Just not for the Big 5.
1) 6mm Rem (1:12 for varmints)
2) .270 Win (Pre-64 featherweight for most other)
3) .338 Win (M-77 Ruger for anything but varmints)
4) ?????????
03 June 2010, 07:05
ACRecurveI'm amazed at some of y'all! We get 6 total...it has NOTHING to do with need!
22-250
7x57
9.3x62
404J
Good hunting,
Andy
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Thomas Jefferson: “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”
Number 1
Accuracy International AW or Sako TRG-42
338 Lapua 1 in 10 twist
Surefire silencer/moderator
Schmidt Bender 5-25x56 PM2 Scope
Sako or AI saddle mount
Number 2
Suhl or Ferlach made (Lots of choices there) Side lock over under double rifle
Two barrel set 9.3x74R over 9.3x74R
and 222 over 20 Gauge
A 3-12x56 Ziess for the combo barrels and a 1.7-10x50 Swarovski Z6 for the 9.3x74R barrels
Engraved with moose, bears, stags, wildboar, and capercaillie
Number 3
Mauser M03 African restocked to brown laminate
416 Remington Magnum, 300 Winchester Match and 222 Match barrels
1.7-10x50 Swarovski Z6, and two 5-25x56 Schmidt Bender PM2
Number 4
Suhl or Ferlach made sidelock singleshot
Two barrel set 10.3x60R and 7x65R octagonal with full ribs
Engraved with ibex, chamois and marmots
Twin 1.7-10x50 Swarovski Z6
Spend about $50,000 be happy!
03 June 2010, 19:16
thndrchikenIf the 22 and shotgun is a gimme then I'd have to say my four would be a 257 Roberts or 25-06, 270WSM, 30-06 and 35 Whelen. All of NA is covered. Now if Africa were to be thrown into the mix I'd have to with a 375 H&H or 375 Ruger.
03 June 2010, 19:27
Bill Thibeault1. .22LR, either a 10-22 or a good bolt gun
2. 12 Gauge Rem 870 Pump Shotgun
3. .223 on an AR-15 platform
4. .300 Win Mag bolt gun
5. .375 H&H bolt gun, with both scope and iron sights.
With these five, I can kill anything on God's planet Earth.
If I had to boil it down to just two, it would be the 12 gauge pump and the .375 H&H.
Cheers to all,
Bill.
03 June 2010, 20:30
ACRecurveI call dibs on all the unused choices!
Good hunting,
Andy
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Thomas Jefferson: “To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”
03 June 2010, 22:20
Jeff SullivanHmmm....
Since the 22 and shotgun are already accounted for, the rest would be easy for me.
I have a Blaser R-93 Professional with 223, 257 Wtby, and 9.3x62 barrels, and a Sauer 202 Outback in 308.
Those should keep me well covered.
222 Rem Mag
257 Roberts
7x57
300 WSM
