05 July 2004, 17:17
SteveB303 Factory ammo
I am planning to use my stock Jungle Carbine for a truck gun this season while hunting moose and deer for nostalgic reasons primarily. I want to use a factory spitzer 180 grain factory ammo. Is there any make that stands out for accuracy and performance? Federal has loads with 180 Federal bullets, 180 Speer Hot Core, and 180 Sierra's. Winchester has the 180 Power Point. I want to use 180's for penetration in case I see a moose but want the bullets to expand on deer also. Any comments would be helpful. Thanks
05 July 2004, 22:06
jrslateSteve,
I've had excellent luck with the Winchester 180 gr. Power Points. Another one to consider would be the Hornady Classic 174 gr.
Good luck and enjoy your great .303...I love mine
06 July 2004, 01:41
N E 450 No2SteveB
My only experience with Speer Hot Core bullets has been with my 9,3x74R double rifle. I load the Speer 270 grain bullet to 2390fps. I have tken a few deer and wild pigs with it. I have only recovered one bullet. It hit a 300 lb pig with a thick gristle plate on a raking shot. The bullet broke the spine and came to rest in the back of the jaw. It had expanded picture perfect. I think at 303 velocities it would be a good bullet.
06 July 2004, 18:14
SteveBThanks for the information. I will go down to Cambodian Tire tomorrow and grab a box of WW 180 Power Points. They cost the same as the Remington 174 UMC ammo and hopefully will be as accurate. Anyone had any experience with the Sierra 180 spitzer bullet in handloads? I pulled some 174 military bullets from the Remington loads and just seated the Sierra's. They were very accurate. Thanks again for the information. Steve
07 July 2004, 00:45
amosgregI've shot the Winchester as well. The Simler-Beloit (sp?) shoot well and are cheaper.
If you search the web there are a couple Enfield sites with some reloading info including some plinking loads

07 July 2004, 19:03
SteveBThanks for the information on the Sierras. I think though, for my application, that they should be perfect! I primarily want this rifle for short range work (off the muzzle) with iron sights for black bear, moose and deer. Some of the areas where I hunt bear on the west coast of Vancouver Island is very dense vegetation and can also be steep. The ranges tend to be very short sometimes. This year, I had 3 very large black bears within 20 feet and boy did I feel useless with a 26" barreled 338 and a 3-1/2 x 10 scope that I setup for long range hunting. I think (I will later test this theorey on wet phone books) that a tough bullet travelling at moderate velocities should be ideal for these conditions and a Jungle Carbine is one of the fastest handling rifles there are. Thanks again for the info, Steve
09 July 2004, 02:28
mehulkamdarSteve B,
I have a friend in Wisconsin who hunts deer with WWII rifles and I saw a box of Winchester spitzer ammunition he had with exposed lead tips and cuts in the jacket towads the tip probably to help expansion. He likes the ammunition a lot and he uses it in his No 4 Enfield as well as in an original No 5 Jungle Carbine that he has managed to acquire in amazing shape and is very happy with them. I'm sure you won't go wrong with these.
Good hunting!