. I have heard that the approval rating from hunters about dog hunting is only 60%. Being a houndsmen I am a little bias. <img src="http://www.accuratereloading.com/forums/dancing.gif" alt="dancing" width="100" height="31"><!--graemlin::dancing:--> Let me know what you think and how you feel about it.Would you hunt with dogs?yes, for any legal animalYes for cougar, lynx, bobcat and bearYes for Raccoon, and bobcatNo its not fair to the animalsI wouldn't, but don't let me stop you!

Pigs only with a knife right now for me. I don't like hunting deer with dogs, but don't let me stop you.
Jeff

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Originally posted by jeffs:
Pigs only with a knife right now for me. I don't like hunting deer with dogs, but don't let me stop you.
Jeff

Thats one thing i would like to do. Hogs with a knife!!!

I'm from the same area as jeffs and have hunted deer with dogs. I cannot even imagine an "ethical problem" with it (if that's what this is about). The only problem I remember was a practical problem. I didn't think it was all that productive. I also cannot begin to understand how any hunter could question dogs for raccoon. Ditto on bears - if we had bears - we did a long time ago and dogs were used then.

Btw, to a large degree some of this occurs naturally. The locals have domestic dogs that run off in rural areas and form packs and quickly revert to being wild dogs. They constantly run deer and you see this happen while hunting (and sometimes right thru your camp at night). These type dogs we regard as a hinderance, nuisance and under some conditions a danger to ourselves. They occasionally get shot.

I have hunted rabbits,quail,coons,bobcats,cougars,bears,hogs,deer,squirrels,and foxes all with dogs.I enjoyed a many a hunt,and will always love hound music.I support anyones right to hunt as they choose whether I agree or not,as long as it is legal.

That's a tough one, but if it is legal I am OK with it. I enjoy hunting rabbits and birds with dogs, but I have hunted deer with dogs on two occasions. I didnt care for it the first time and liked it even less the second. I really don't agree with hunting deer with dogs because of my experience with it. I would never lobby for its ban though. I would love to do a leopard and cougar hunt with hounds. Don't think I would care to do a bear hunt behind hounds though.

Man and dogs have been hunting companions for eons, longer than man and a horse. I can't imagine not being able to use a dog for hunting if you so desire.

It is legal in South Georgia to hunt deer with dogs. Yes, we do it and yes, we have fun and yes, we kill deer. There is nothing unethical about it. In fact, IMHO, it is harder to kill a deer ahead of the dogs than it is to kill one from a tree stand.

The bigger issue is not to become divided as hunters. If you don't like it, then don't do it, but don't criticize someone else who hunts in this manner.

This is interesting results. I had a brief discussion with Tred Barta yesterday about flim another hound hunt. He showed some concern that the veiwer ship was only 40% for hound hunting.I guess he is hearing this from Versus.I figured I would see what other hunters say. Did any one see Treds Bear show where he shot it over hounds?

Here in the south we still do a lot of hound hunting. There are still some deer hunters, although fewer than before as more big clubs and leases don't allow it anymore, and lots of guys hunting hogs with them. Before I had children I was a pretty avid coon hunter, and still enjoy rabbit and squirel hunting with friends that have dogs. This post did bring up somehthing I have been interested in. I see that you listed bobcat in the choices. I assume you tree them much like cougar, although no one does it around here. Since we are starting to get a lot of bobcats around this area I have often wondered if people hunt them with dogs.

Gabe M, Yes you tree bobcats the same as cougar. Some seem like they won't tree as they are like Houdini and are escape artists. A good bobcat dog is tough to make, a real challenge.

can someone please explain why some of you consider it unethical to hunt deer with A dog?

As in driven hunts that is..

/from a person sitting in Europe.

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Originally posted by Goldeneye:
can someone please explain why some of you consider it unethical to hunt deer with A dog?

As in driven hunts that is..

/from a person sitting in Europe.

Aren't you the same one who was roasting people for hog hunting with dogs awhile back?

no norton we hunt boars with dogs here all the time.

The thread was about population control of hogs and why sows should not be shot from their infants.

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Originally posted by Goldeneye:
no norton we hunt boars with dogs here all the time.

The thread was about population control of hogs and why sows should not be shot from their infants.

Oh, really? Do you recall this thread?

Goldeneye
one of us

Posted Feb 12, 2010 2:36 AM Hide Post
I see...

To me it is evident that releasing a pack of dogs that attack the pig, biting and holding a pig is just that....animal cruelty.

What do you call it?

Hunting?

Get real.

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Originally posted by Norton:

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Originally posted by Goldeneye:
can someone please explain why some of you consider it unethical to hunt deer with A dog?

As in driven hunts that is..

/from a person sitting in Europe.

Aren't you the same one who was roasting people for hog hunting with dogs awhile back?

I seem to recall that was exactly the position that Goldeneye took.

yes it is the thread.

If you mean that you also have dogs biting and holding deer, then I would consider it too unethical.

Driven game from our point of view is when the hunter end the chase and not the dog/dogs.


now if you have problems with me start your own thread and stop trollin' this one.

I dont care for deer hunting with but dogs, but dont care if you do it....just keep your dogs off my tract.

I've never hunted deer over dogs; however, I have several friends that do. And it seems the general concept of hunting deer with dogs is misunderstood.
The idea of hunting with dogs is to MOVE the deer, not CHASE the deer. Properly placed, the standers that are to the side of the scent line will kill many more deer that are just melting out to the sides than anyone shooting at the deer that is being driven. And too, if the deer are just eased along, they won't leave their home area but will keep dipping and dodging. If you put some hot hounds on a deer that are really pushing him, he'll break his pattern and head for the next county or the river.
When I lived in Memphis, the dog hunters preferred dog was a beagle/walker cross. Which gave you a tall beagle/short walker with a hell of a nose, too short to "run" the deer but tall enough to cover some ground.

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I've never hunted deer over dogs; however, I have several friends that do. And it seems the general concept of hunting deer with dogs is misunderstood.
The idea of hunting with dogs is to MOVE the deer, not CHASE the deer. Properly placed, the standers that are to the side of the scent line will kill many more deer that are just melting out to the sides than anyone shooting at the deer that is being driven. And too, if the deer are just eased along, they won't leave their home area but will keep dipping and dodging. If you put some hot hounds on a deer that are really pushing him, he'll break his pattern and head for the next county or the river.
When I lived in Memphis, the dog hunters preferred dog was a beagle/walker cross. Which gave you a tall beagle/short walker with a hell of a nose, too short to "run" the deer but tall enough to cover some ground.

Seconded.

There is nothing better than hearing your own dog in the woods.

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Originally posted by chilcotin hillbilly:

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Originally posted by jeffs:
Pigs only with a knife right now for me. I don't like hunting deer with dogs, but don't let me stop you.
Jeff

That's one thing I would like to do. Hogs with a knife!!!

Leave the knife home....bring the handcuffs...and I'm not kidding!!!

Nebraska allows hunting deer with dogs......and I've never seen anyone do it....it's just the culture here!

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Originally posted by Goldeneye:
yes it is the thread.

If you mean that you also have dogs biting and holding deer, then I would consider it too unethical.

Driven game from our point of view is when the hunter end the chase and not the dog/dogs.


now if you have problems with me start your own thread and stop trollin' this one.

Not trolling.....just reminding everyone that you're a fucking poser.

Nothing wrong with hunting with dogs, awful lot of fun and excitment. The dogs enjoy it too.

BigB

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Originally posted by BigB:
Nothing wrong with hunting with dogs, awful lot of fun and excitment. The dogs enjoy it too.

BigB

I absolutely agree!

a practical question that I've never figured out (I lived in the US a few years back):

What if a whitetail is hit by a car and it rushes off into the woods.

What do you do then?

Nothing?

Is anyone responsible for finding the game?

As I see it the best method is to puruse it with dogs. Of course in this case you should use holding dogs and the likes.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Goldeneye:
a practical question that I've never figured out (I lived in the US a few years back):

What if a whitetail is hit by a car and it rushes off into the woods.

What do you do then?
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What you do is call your insurance agent 'cause your car is fucked up.

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No its not fair to the animals.

This story relates how sometimes that despite the best Plans, the Drives just don't go quite as expected.

Some boys came over from Santee and brought their Deer Hounds. We all got ready to run them on a piece of woods called "The Square Patch". Dogs and Handlers entered from the South with the intent of moving the Deer out the North end. However we were concerned about two Travel Lanes, one running East and one West where both Trails went to other woods. So, we had people watching those areas too.

A Handler came out on the North end and asked a Stander if a nice Buck had passed by. The Stander told him he hadn't seen a thing. The Handler ends up with 3 of the Dogs milling around. The Handler apparently told them they had done a worthless job and needed to redeem themselves by going back past the Buck and then moving it on out of the woods. The Stander said the Dogs "looked embarrassed" and back in they went. About 4-5min passed and they brought that Buck out just as they should have done the first time.

It is really not as easy and simple as it seems. The Dogs do run past the Deer in the extremely dense understory and the Handlers get a good many shots at Deer(typically nice Bucks) trying to "sneak out" behind the Dogs. 18"-20" Shotguns are prefered.

Lots of twisted ankles and Southern Camo(mud) makes it a Test.

I have hunted rabbits, dove, quail, pheasant, ducks, and pigs with dogs, and loved it all. The pig dogs bayed for an archery kill, they were not catch dogs. Mostly I have had beagles, and love beagle music. I am in a lot of homes and have to deal with a lot of dogs. (Your furnace man doesn't want to meet, smell, hear, or wear your pets. When he says its OK, he is lying.) I am amazed at how many people keep beagles as house pets that never hunt them, even hunters. I can't imagine putting up with a beagle that doesn't hunt.

I want to do a knife hunt for pigs, and hound hunts for cougar and bear. A deer hunt would be fun, but it seems to be dying out. I think running after dogs with a bunch of southern boys would be a hoot.

I would like to try hunting with dogs for just about anything at least once. Killed my mountain lion in the Rocky Mountains with a pack of hounds and every time I look at the rug, I can still hear that wonderful hound music. I wouldn't walk across the road to shoot waterfowl or upland birds without my dogs along. 
When I go to get a leopard, it will be over bait, that's just the way, for personal reasons that I would want to do it. 
It is issues like this that weaken the hunting fraternity and when we don't stand together, we ALL lose. 

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The bigger issue is not to become divided as hunters. If you don't like it, then don't do it, but don't criticize someone else who hunts in this manner.

Right on the money!!

First i have to say im big fan of huting with dogs. Hunting with dogs is really satisfied even you dont get nothing when hunting. Training of dog is really interested and when yours dogs working right at first time i can promise it get feel so good.

Special here in Finland we hunting all animals with dogs. And what experience i have hunting around europe(only europe yet) best huntings dogs you find here and also from Sweden. Ofcourse some dogs are extreamly good in some others countries but i mean generally. One reason for it is our big forest and our style hunting mostly with dogs and special huting alone with dog. Here dog is really important for hunting. But anyway its big mistake compare different hunting style and dogs beetween different areas where hunting culture and style is totally different. I dont judge anyone and anyones style of hunting. But still i havent get any idea hunting pigs with dogs and knife but maybe someday i understand that hunting style too.

But anyway my mind of htuning dogs is that hunting without dog is like make love alone... Satisfied but something missing

Its a great way to hunt. Anyone that vote no is a jerk and has never tried hunting around the dogs. Its all about the love of the dogs--just that simple. When I tree lion/bobs now I maybe take one pic of the cat and the rest is all the dogs..What is the difference of hunting birds or lions over dogs-nothing.!!!!!!!!!!

I really like running bears and yotes with hounds wouldn't hurt my feelings to run deer with them. We do not allow deer hunting with dogs in Wis.

As for bob cats we run them also here most of at cats are shot on the ground they hardly ever tree but keep running. We have had the dogs catch them on the ground a bit with a nice tree right buy them. They stood on the ground fighting the dogs instead of treeing.

Last Weekend of the season, 3 local dog clubs come over to a 2,500 acre tract we lease & we have a dog hunt. It is a lot of fun but the hunter doesn't get a far chance, I have not seen a live deer in 10 years of trying but I'll be there next month. We usually have 40 hunters and kill around 10 deer, a normal hunting moring with that many hunters would yield about the same number of deer.

I know this is under the American side of the topics, but I use to be very anti dog hunting over here in South Africa, until I went on my first Bushpig over dogs and Bushbuck over dogs hunt. I must admit that it was some of the most exciting hunting I have ever done.
The fitness ego did take a huge knock though, but great fun none the less.

bear hunting with dog cam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...4_sI&feature=related


lynx

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...zY-g&feature=related

wild boar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...8qIQ&feature=related

Let hear from those who disgree with hound hunting, I would like to hear what your thinking. Nobody jump down anyones throat. Thanks Doug

In Georgia, the issue is usually between "still hunters" and "dog hunters". The still hunters somehow think that if you run a piece of property with dogs that every deer with in 5 miles will leave the area completely. Basically, they think it will ruin their still hunting. So, they don't like it and they think it should be banned. Some will even go as far as shooting any dogs they see while deer hunting.

I grew up hunting deer with hounds, so can't look down on those that still do it. I wish it were outlawed here simply because dog season opens when the rut starts.

Hunting wild hogs with dogs is very exciting. We used to catch them and bring them out alive.

My hunting is 90% about the hunt, 10% about killing animals.

The only shots I take are when the animal doesn't know it is being hunted,preferably from less than 20yds.
The goal is to take the animal with the least amount fear and suffering possible.
So I personally don't hunt with dogs.

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Originally posted by frank4570:
My hunting is 90% about the hunt, 10% about killing animals.

The only shots I take are when the animal doesn't know it is being hunted,preferably from less than 20yds.
The goal is to take the animal with the least amount fear and suffering possible.
So I personally don't hunt with dogs.

Then I would think you may like hound hunting with quality houndsmen as they probably only harvest about 10% of the game they tree.