My Dad swears this time is different he thinks that the population is finally self sufficient.

The real estate agent in Jackson told me that Star Valley and Thermopolis were already starting to show signs of dying, and that Big Piney and Pinedale were going to be the next to fall.

We will just see I guess.

I hope so any resonable house in Casper or NE with property is $400,000.

The current economic downturn had little affect on Wyoming. I have seen growth in every town I work.

Thermop has had close to a dozen new homes started just this year. Last I heard the population was heading to 550,000. And you can see the difference every year. More and more residents. More and more hunters and fishermen. I have to agree with MOA's dad, slow and steady growth, good or bad.

I couldn't count the times I have heard from transplanted Coloradans, Wyoming is like Colorado was 25 years ago, steadily filling up. This current cycle is nothing like the boom/bust of the past.

The only dying you see are old folks, and mom and pop businesses closing their doors. Walmart and such is to accesable thses days. 60 to 100 miles is no deterent.

The country is filling up Wyoming was probably due their share of it a long time ago, just getting caught up.

Montana and Idaho both have a million people, so why has Wyoming been immune until now?

Wind, conservative political climate, wind, Winter. The libs are slowly moving this way however.

quote:

The libs are slowly moving this way however.

Albany and teton counties are full of em, Park and Fremont counties are gettting there.

quote:

so why has Wyoming been immune until now

Jobs, realestate prices, can't say winter since we haven't had one in eons, and water. Hard to build a house on 2 acres and not have any well water. When you have to haul it, it spoils it for some..

Lander is the new lefty-asshole-West.

The real estate agent told me Star Valley is dying. No jobs is killing it and Pinedale/Big Piney.

I haven't been there in years, and I'd love to hear my fellow Wyomingite's thoughts.

The parents justed listed their place, we will see what the market will hold. They have ridden Wyomings real estate ladder very well.

quote:

Lander is the new lefty-asshole-West.

All that keeps fremont county sane are the few guys like your dad. The "old guard", so to speak. But Lander is something else. You wouldn't believe the FBI, and DEA, agent numbers, and they fit right in with the liberal point of views.

I never liked Lander as a little kid, was always happy to be back on the Reservation.

Every Indian in Wyoming new my dad was a honest and fair cop.

It is hard to understand liberal cops? Worse than liberal military folks, and I know quite a few of those.

Moderator, Thought this was the American Big Game Hunting Form. Its sounding more like the P.F.(and boring)Lets hear about your hunts on this form. jc

quote:

Moderator, Thought this was the American Big Game Hunting Form. Its sounding more like the P.F.(and boring)Lets hear about your hunts on this form. jc

Then don't read it.

quote:

Originally posted by MOA TACTICAL:
My Dad swears this time is different he thinks that the population is finally self sufficient.

The real estate agent in Jackson told me that Star Valley and Thermopolis were already starting to show signs of dying, and that Big Piney and Pinedale were going to be the next to fall.

We will just see I guess.

An out-of-stater's opinion, worth just what you pay for it: Jackson real-estate prices had worked their way down to Pinedale a decade ago, and only the gas drilling kept the local kids from having to move away for employment. I think there are mixed opinions about this among the longer-term residents, drilling has been a problem to some ranchers' water supplies for a decade already. Pinedale could end up like Bishop, selling mostly dry flies and t-shirts, if they're not judicious about expansion. There are too many hotels and convenience stores for the population base, and when the drilling stops there will be a crash.

There are some pockets of high-net-worth outsiders colonizing parts of Wyoming, not clear to me whether they live there year-round or not. One guy in particular bought a ranch full of antelope and posted the whole thing, and isn't the least shy about it. There are some more like that in a little colony we found a year or two ago, readily recognizable once you come over the last hilltop. Not a good sign for hunters, a good reason to keep BLM land as it is and not allow too much private ownership of it.

There are some gas fields more-or-less west of Big Piney. I wasn't paying attention when they were drilled, and wonder what happened over there. Anybody know?

Bondurant is on the road to ruin; it's starting to look modern, and there are not enough old-timers left to keep the story straight.

Star Valley, like Cache Valley, is a victim of its own successes. If they printed their own currency, they could inflate their way out of the real estate bubble.

Another point, there aren't any meat cutters left between Rock Springs and Jackson, maybe the result of an economic monoculture brought about by the gas drilling.

Is this still a hunting thread? If access is part of hunting, I'd say there is an argument for keeping it right where it is.

Yeah, so dad, friend, and I drew region B deer tags. Might buy OTC goat tags too. Anyone have info on the units around pathfinder for goats?

It is damn near all private land. That's why there are left over antelope tags out there. Pathfinder ranch and all.

There will be some pockets of public that touch the highway and backroads.

Remember in Wyoming if it is public land checkerboarded with private, it becomes private land and requires permission to hunt.

You might call the manager, and see if you can get on it or not. The guy that owns the ranch is from the mid-west somewhere. Don't know anything about him, or even what his name is.

I looked at my Delorme Wyoming map and it shows more "yellow" than I thought there was near Pathfinder resevor.

You need a 1 to 1000 BLM/USGS map.

Remember what I said about checkerboard lands.

Get your maps, rent a boat, cruise the lake, maybe even fish, and hunt antelope. I have done it there for deer.

you don't think "boat hunt" when you think wyoming, but that sounds like a lot of fun. Since I have a real job now, I might even be able to afford it...

quote:

you don't think "boat hunt" when you think wyoming, but that sounds like a lot of fun. Since I have a real job now, I might even be able to afford it...

A canoe on the river can be productive for deer, and I have seen antelope along the Big Horn, but wasn't hunting them., But this year, as dry as it is getting, you might be able to walk around the lake!

Congratulations on the "real" job!