Young man's ugly buck

Mike

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What I have learned on AR, since 2001:
1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.

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08 December 2018, 19:14

Crazyhorseconsulting

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He shot a doe for his first last year.

The reason I was asking is that 4 years or so back, my boss had a new hunter on one of his leases. The guy had got on to the leasse sort of late as a replacement member of an established group.

They had a member drop out and this guy was looking for a lease so my boss asked those folks and they agreed to letting him have the open spot.

This was like late Sept./early October, so I was out setting up feeders for the guy and a pop-up ground blind. HIe really did not have time to get any cameras set up.

The guy has two sons at that time they were 10 and 8 and the 8 year old had not killed a buck yet but had shot a doe or two.

Too make a long story shorter, the week before opening day I was out there setting up the Pop Up blind, and per the guys request I set it just a little over 100 yards from the feeder.

It turned out the blind was 110 yards + or - a yard either way from the feeder on a ridge which piut the blind about 10 degrees maybe a little more above the feeder.

End results were that opening morning, the Dad and boys were set up and shortly after daylight a buck comes in to the feeder. Ends up I do not know who I was prouder if, the kid for shooting the buck or the Dad for letting the kid shoot and not taking the shot himself.

When I saw the buck I called my boss and told him that he needed to see this one. It was a 10 pointer with two of the points being 4 and 1/2 or 5 inch drop tines, one on each side. Ended up that the rack measured out at 142 or 144.

I told the Dad that the only way the kid would probably ever shoot anything bigger would be off a High Fence operation.

There were several unhappy folks on that lease and the others the boss has in the 5 mile or so radius around it, because that buck had been seen on every game cam on those properties.

Even the rocks don't last forever.

08 December 2018, 20:26

p dog shooter

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Originally posted by butchlambert:
quote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
Is this a picture that you took or did you get it someplace else.

Did you actually see it.

Are more pictures available.

Something doesn't seem right about the picture.

I could be all wet and wrong.

Could be the camera.

You are very wet!!

Sorry to be skeptical but there has been a lot of fraud when it comes to very impressive deer.

You still did not answer if you seen the buck yourself. Or where the picture came from.

08 December 2018, 21:38

butchlambert

quote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
quote:
Originally posted by butchlambert:
quote:
Originally posted by p dog shooter:
Is this a picture that you took or did you get it someplace else.

Did you actually see it.

Are more pictures available.

Something doesn't seem right about the picture.

I could be all wet and wrong.

Could be the camera.

You are very wet!!

Sorry to be skeptical but there has been a lot of fraud when it comes to very impressive deer.

You still did not answer if you seen the buck yourself. Or where the picture came from.

Call Paul at Paul's Lawnmower Shop. The picture came off his telephone. Other than Jesus Christ, I don't know a person more honest than Paul. If that is such a frigging deal, call Paul on Tuesday. He is closed on Monday. He is kinda rural, but his phone is probably in the Royse City phone book.
I don't shop around and cut and paste photos.

08 December 2018, 23:27

butchlambert

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Originally posted by p dog shooter:
quote:
I don't shop around and cut and paste photos.

Never said you did.

Your taking this to personal.

But I also don't believe every photo I see posted.

It is a fantastic looking buck never said it wasn't. Maybe a bit to fantastic.

I don't think asking for a little more proof is wrong.

Just do a search on a very fantastic buck supposedly shot by Mitch Rompola of Traverse City, MI. Back in November 1998 Rompola claimed to have killed the new record.

Yes, I'm taking it personally!
A couple that I cut and pasted from my game camera outside my bedroom window.

My name ain't Mitch Rompola. I'm making no claims as to the size, points, or score. I'm just sharing the photo. I still think the rack is ugly, but it is impressive. No, I do not hunt at home. I drive about 5 hours west to our property south of Rule, Texas on a fork of the Brazos River.

09 December 2018, 03:02

butchlambert

quote:
Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
quote:
He shot a doe for his first last year.

The reason I was asking is that 4 years or so back, my boss had a new hunter on one of his leases. The guy had got on to the leasse sort of late as a replacement member of an established group.

They had a member drop out and this guy was looking for a lease so my boss asked those folks and they agreed to letting him have the open spot.

This was like late Sept./early October, so I was out setting up feeders for the guy and a pop-up ground blind. HIe really did not have time to get any cameras set up.

The guy has two sons at that time they were 10 and 8 and the 8 year old had not killed a buck yet but had shot a doe or two.

Too make a long story shorter, the week before opening day I was out there setting up the Pop Up blind, and per the guys request I set it just a little over 100 yards from the feeder.

It turned out the blind was 110 yards + or - a yard either way from the feeder on a ridge which piut the blind about 10 degrees maybe a little more above the feeder.

End results were that opening morning, the Dad and boys were set up and shortly after daylight a buck comes in to the feeder. Ends up I do not know who I was prouder if, the kid for shooting the buck or the Dad for letting the kid shoot and not taking the shot himself.

When I saw the buck I called my boss and told him that he needed to see this one. It was a 10 pointer with two of the points being 4 and 1/2 or 5 inch drop tines, one on each side. Ended up that the rack measured out at 142 or 144.

I told the Dad that the only way the kid would probably ever shoot anything bigger would be off a High Fence operation.

There were several unhappy folks on that lease and the others the boss has in the 5 mile or so radius around it, because that buck had been seen on every game cam on those properties.

Neat story. This young man may look a lifetime and not find a better one.

09 December 2018, 04:33

Crazyhorseconsulting

Rule is a few miles west of where I live and grew up. Newcastle played against Rule in 11 man football when I was in High School.

Three forks of the Brazos converge in that area.

I thought the buck had been killed in the area around Poetry and there are good deer in that area but there are also good deer out in the area around Rule and all along the Brazos drainage.

Not sure why folks have to question or make accusations about another persons posts! Seems counter productive and only makes hunters adverserial toward each other and I think we have more than enough enemies as it is. JMO.

Even the rocks don't last forever.

09 December 2018, 20:22

butchlambert

quote:
Originally posted by Crazyhorseconsulting:
Rule is a few miles west of where I live and grew up. Newcastle played against Rule in 11 man football when I was in High School.

Three forks of the Brazos converge in that area.

I thought the buck had been killed in the area around Poetry and there are good deer in that area but there are also good deer out in the area around Rule and all along the Brazos drainage.

Not sure why folks have to question or make accusations about another persons posts! Seems counter productive and only makes hunters adverserial toward each other and I think we have more than enough enemies as it is. JMO.

Yep, it was killed close to us. Rule now plays 6 man football.
We have decent deer at our place along with a lot of hogs and turkey. Most of the quail have disappeared. We also have quite a few coyotes and bobcats. This is on the Rule property.
I think I mentioned that my wife had an Uncle that had a pool hall in Olney and I remember Olney kicking our ass in football in the old days. I was in Burkburnett at that time.

09 December 2018, 20:39

Crazyhorseconsulting

This part of the country has changed a lot since I was in school in Newcastle. Most of the area continues to shrink in population.

I can remember when there were very few deer around Newcastle and No Pigs!!! Used to be a lot of quail and the farther west and north you went from Olney/Newcastle there were lots of Blue/Scaled Quail and dove and quail hunting were the main species people from outside the area came into the area to pay to hunt.

Sometimes that seems like it was a hundred years ago.