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25 February 2010, 04:33
kudu56
Lead in Wyoming's ravens !
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Lead in Wyoming's ravens drops with copper bullets
Story Discussion Associated Press | Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:54 am | (8) Comments

Font Size: Default font size Larger font size Share JACKSON — Scientists with Craighead Beringia South say hunters who chose copper over lead bullets while hunting in the Jackson region helped to reduce blood lead levels in local ravens.

Last fall, researchers distributed nearly 200 boxes of copper bullets to hunters with permits for the National Elk Refuge and Grand Teton National Park. They captured 46 ravens and tested their blood for lead.

Ravens typically scavenge the discarded gut piles of elk and other big game, and researchers think they consume lead bullet fragments along with their meal.

Biologist Bryan Bedrosian says the tests done this year show about a 28 percent drop in blood lead levels in ravens and he attributes that to the increase in copper bullet use.
25 February 2010, 04:48
wetdog2084
This is just the latest weapon the bunny huggers are using against us. We as hunters and shooters need to aggressively speak up against this BS before it's to late.
25 February 2010, 04:52
ravenr
time to do a study on the effects of ski wax on the enviroment and i'm pretty sure Mt. bike tracks lead to erosion,not to mention how all the trees and bunnies are effected by the hugging.
and i'm soooo surprized this started in J-hole.
and think about the 4000 bullets led to such a significant decline in the lead levels of the captured ravens
25 February 2010, 10:14
georgeld
You don't suppose maybe he checked a whole different batch of birds each test do you?


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25 February 2010, 10:35
Harris
I thought you guys were intentionally adding lead to their blood stream with your .223's and 22-250's?

Is shooting a raven with an all copper bullet more beneficial to the raven? Smiler


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25 February 2010, 22:06
ravenr
also a federal offense
25 February 2010, 22:08
Kenati
Aren't ravens migratory??? How the hell are they attempting to sample a representative cohort of birds specific to the park?

I bet these are the same scientists making "discoveries" about global warming too.
26 February 2010, 07:14
TomP
quote:
Originally posted by kudu56:

Lead in Wyoming's ravens drops with copper bullets
Story Discussion Associated Press | Posted: Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:54 am | (8) Comments

Font Size: Default font size Larger font size Share JACKSON — Scientists with Craighead Beringia South say hunters who chose copper over lead bullets while hunting in the Jackson region helped to reduce blood lead levels in local ravens.

Last fall, researchers distributed nearly 200 boxes of copper bullets to hunters with permits for the National Elk Refuge and Grand Teton National Park. They captured 46 ravens and tested their blood for lead.

Ravens typically scavenge the discarded gut piles of elk and other big game, and researchers think they consume lead bullet fragments along with their meal.

Biologist Bryan Bedrosian says the tests done this year show about a 28 percent drop in blood lead levels in ravens and he attributes that to the increase in copper bullet use.


More likely they're eating a lot of wolf kills, no bullets involved. Incidentally, copper is another biocide...


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26 February 2010, 10:01
Steve Lefforge
This is the same damn bullshit test that all the grizzlies around Yellowstone were dieing because they ate deer/elk that hunters had shot with lead bullets. Well if that is the case I should have been dead twentyfive years ago with all the lead in my teeth thanks to my dentist. I bet they didn't even do a freakin test.

Instead of wasting all that money on this test why don't they go out and build a water hole or kill some pine beetals.

Steve
26 February 2010, 17:43
kudu56
quote:
Instead of wasting all that money on this test why don't they go out and build a water hole or kill some pine beetals.

tu2
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26 February 2010, 20:48
HuntKY
What a skewed survey. You conduct a survey where there is a known concentration of dead elk and localized Ravens are feeding on them...on the Refuge. There is nothing "natural" about the refuge. They're Ravens anyway, who gives a shit?

Why don't the focus their efforts on eradicating the Pine Bark Beetle?
27 February 2010, 06:50
Idaho Sharpshooter
hypothetically: some people in Idaho have been accused of using the "Direct Injection" method of infusing Ravens with lead/copper combinations with great success.

Rich
27 February 2010, 09:45
Dutch
I was told it is quite easy to tell the difference between crows and ravens: the dead ones are crows.....

As far as the study, it's coming boys. They gave out 200 boxes of ammo -- what moron hunter would shoot ammo they haven't sighted in with? FWIW, Dutch.


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