Has anyone around here hunted European Bison or have any contacts for outfitters?

Thanks,

JohnTheGreek

John

I've seen these guys on the internet, they advertise Wiecent (european Bison) hunting

I don't know if they are reliable, maybe some other members might know.

http://www.worldhunt.com/hunting_germany_austria_n.html

Let us know how the Hunt goes ( might be too drafty in the alps for that kilt though....

later

RH

I see the Scotland trip has sparked you to finish your bison slam

Bison Slam????

where else have you bagged them? what is the entire list of a buff slam? Any picts of the collection?

RH

Rockhead,

I will try to post photos for you. I honestly don't know how many bison subspecies exist. I have a plains bison (Bison Bison) from down here in the lower 48 and a Wood Bison (Bison Athabascae)from the Yukon Territory. A Eurpean Bison (Bison Bonasus) might be the only one remaining for me but I am not sure.
Anybody have some info on any other Bison subspecies that might be running around out there?

Thanks,

JohnTheGreek

Muskox isn't considered a bison is it? I suppose more of a sheep.

Of course there is also the Pleistocene bison once we get around to cloning them.

RH

Musk Ox aren't Bison although I would love to hunt one. They are classified as Ovibos Moschatus and are of the Bovidae family but the Caprinae subfamily whereas bison are from the Bovinae subfamily. So, by what is admittedly a somewhat arbitrary classification system used by science, Musk Ox are apparently more closely related to sheep and goats than bison.
Have you ever seen artistic renditions of those goofy prehistoric bison? Talk about your horn spreads! Definitely on my list if the genetic geniuses ever get it together!

JohnTheGreek

There's always "Beefalo", a cross between Bison and domestic cattle!!

Seriously though, here's a couple of e-mail addresses you can try. I believe I've seen Wisent hunting on their list. Both are very large agencies.

mistral@mistral-jagd.at (Austria)
jagdreisen@kettner.de (Germany)

I'm sure someone can reply in English. Hope this helps.

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Might consider contacting www.wildadventure.dk they offer good wisent hunt in Poland.

Some europeans consider the the wisent to have two subspicies. The forest wisent (Bison bos bonasus) living in forest region between Belarus and Poland in the bioavica forest, and the mountain wisent (Bison bos caucasius) living in kaukasus. The later is smaller bodied!

Regards

Mads

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I thought those things were extinct. Was reading about them recently in Schama's Landscape and Memory, history of the wisent and hunting them. Had the impression that meat hunting during WWI and WWII had done them in. Will look that up tonight and post some of it.

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Originally posted by rockhead:
John

I've seen these guys on the internet, they advertise Wiecent (european Bison) hunting

I don't know if they are reliable, maybe some other members might know.

http://www.worldhunt.com/hunting_germany_austria_n.html

Let us know how the Hunt goes ( might be too drafty in the alps for that kilt though....

later

RH

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Hey

The best place to go for hunting "Zubr" or wisent is in eastern Poland from Radom towards Lublin. I have seen Zubr a few times when I have been in Poland hunting.
There is also a very nice bison vodka called Zubrowka.

I would have bet my money on Poland instead of "Jerry land" or Austria. I know people who have contacted the Polish embassy to get a list of guides or outfitter companies. Good luck

Johan

Great replies everyone! Thanks a lot!

Fred,

The European Bison was, at one point very close to extinction. I have heard that all wild specimins are decended from a dozen or so individuals from Eurpoean zoos. The existing species, obviously, has some serious genetic problems.

JohnTheGreek

"A bristling beard hanging in shaggy lengths,
Its eyes, shining with a fearful red rage
And a terrible mane spreading from its neck
And covering shoulders and knees and breast."

from Carmen de Statura, Feritate ac Venatione Bisontis, by the Lithuanian hunter poet Mikolaj Hussowski, 1523. This is a fragment of the 1,070 line poem written in Latin. I have been unable to find an English translation.

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Originally posted by JohnTheGreek:
Great replies everyone! Thanks a lot!

Fred,

The European Bison was, at one point very close to extinction. I have heard that all wild specimins are decended from a dozen or so individuals from Eurpoean zoos. The existing species, obviously, has some serious genetic problems.

JohnTheGreek

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Fred,

Wow, 16th Century Lithuanian wildlife poetry that's written in Latin . . .and I thought I posted obscure stuff!
I LOVE IT! Thanks!

Regards,

JohnTheGreek

Hello JohnTheGreek. Hunting is a wonderful thing, an intellectual pursuit as well as physical and instinctive. And as Fred Bear said, "and if you're lucky, you get something to eat." My source for the poetry is Simon Schama's Landscape and Memory, a marvelous book on man's relationship to the physical world around us, how it made us and we changed it. From the Teutonic fascination with forests that lives to this day, to the origins of what is today natural resource law, Schama is a wonderful historian and interpreter. -Fred

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Originally posted by JohnTheGreek:
Fred,

Wow, 16th Century Lithuanian wildlife poetry that's written in Latin . . .and I thought I posted obscure stuff!
I LOVE IT! Thanks!

Regards,

JohnTheGreek

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I have a older friend who was from Ukraine and he has told me that are forest bison in his former homeland as well as Belorus if the the spelling is correct.