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01 June 2012, 08:11
drummondlindsey
NM Desert Bighorn scouting trip
A friend drew one of the 16 new tags that were offered this year. Heading down tomorrow to scout a bit and see what we can find. Supposed to be some GIANT rams in this unit so we'll see. Hope to have pics on Monday morning for everybody

Hope everybody has a great weekend
01 June 2012, 08:39
ravenr
get photo's and be safe
01 June 2012, 09:20
drummondlindsey
Yes sir! I'll call you tomorrow when I'm on the road
01 June 2012, 11:29
Manbeast
What unit did he draw for?
01 June 2012, 16:49
Jack D Bold
Drummond,

Thank goodness you posted. Due to a massive computer glitch, your friend got my tag by mistake. Please send it to me immediately.

Best of success to you and your friend.


"You only gotta do one thing well to make it in this world" - J Joplin
04 June 2012, 20:24
Norton
quote:
Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
. Hope to have pics on Monday morning for everybody


We're waiting..... rotflmo
04 June 2012, 20:42
drummondlindsey
Here's one I pulled off the video. One of my other buddies took all of the video and pictures with him back to Utah and will be sending me a disk.


04 June 2012, 21:17
drummondlindsey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...index=2&feature=plcp
04 June 2012, 21:18
drummondlindsey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ture=channel&list=UL
04 June 2012, 21:43
Norton
That video shot through a spotting scope?
04 June 2012, 21:47
drummondlindsey
Yes sir and both rams were well over a mile away

I have MUCH better footage and pictures coming my way and will get it up as soon as I receive it
04 June 2012, 23:40
StormsGSP
Looks like you have a few good rams located. That second one carries is mass really well.

The "weak stomach" video was pretty hilarious.


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06 June 2012, 07:16
Snellstrom
Looking forward to the better footage, both those Rams are real nice.
I've been putting in for Deserts since 1997 in Colorado.
06 June 2012, 07:56
drummondlindsey
This ram is a stud! Picture was taken from almost 2 miles away




06 June 2012, 08:03
ravenr
what are you giving him for bases?
I put him at 34-36" and with 15" bases he should be high 60's maybe bust 70.
What do you think ? beautiful ram thou...
with a fun ticket in MY pocket he
would be a contender
06 June 2012, 08:22
drummondlindsey
quote:
Originally posted by ravenr:
what are you giving him for bases?


This is the $100,000 question. We have nothing to go on as these particular sheep have never been hunted. This ram is heavier than he looks in the picture. I am guessing him at 36" and depending on his bases should go from low to mid 170's but I may be off. I'm not great at judging these sheep
06 June 2012, 09:07
ravenr
me either and I'm being so bold
as to try and judge off a picture.
Great low slung, loose curled ram
More scouting I'm guessing...
great start, good luck, keep us posted
06 June 2012, 09:14
drummondlindsey
quote:
Originally posted by ravenr:
me either and I'm being so bold
as to try and judge off a picture.


Never stopped either of us before Big Grin
06 June 2012, 09:29
ravenr
so true Big Grin
06 June 2012, 18:19
Snellstrom
quote:
Originally posted by ravenr:
I put him at 34-36" and with 15" bases he should be high 60's maybe bust 70.


Spot on guess in my book
But what do I know. I'm an armchair Desert Sheep hunter.
06 June 2012, 18:36
ravenr
would you teach me
how to get an arm chair
into desert sheep country? Cool
06 June 2012, 19:27
Slider
Your right drummondlindsey. 173-175
07 June 2012, 05:54
Snellstrom
quote:
Originally posted by ravenr:
would you teach me
how to get an arm chair
into desert sheep country? Cool


Pretty much the same way I get anything into or out of Sheep, Goat or Elk country, I strap it to a pack frame and put my eyes forward and my boots one after the other!
I am trying to teach my kids this same trick so when I'm a bit older they will take care of the heavy lifting.
07 June 2012, 07:47
ravenr
quote:
I am trying to teach my kids this same trick so when I'm a bit older they will take care of the heavy lifting.

Good plan and I see many treasured memories
ahead of you
07 June 2012, 07:53
Mike_Dettorre
No way 171.5 at the most dancing Big Grin


Mike

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1. The proper answer to: Where is the best place in town to get a steak dinner? is…You should go to Mel's Diner and get the fried chicken.
2. Big game animals can tell the difference between .015 of an inch in diameter, 15 grains of bullet weight, and 150 fps.
3. There is a difference in the performance of two identical projectiles launched at the same velocity if they came from different cartridges.
4. While a double rifle is the perfect DGR, every 375HH bolt gun needs to be modified to carry at least 5 down.
5. While a floor plate and detachable box magazine both use a mechanical latch, only the floor plate latch is reliable. Disregard the fact that every modern military rifle uses a detachable box magazine.
6. The Remington 700 is unreliable regardless of the fact it is the basis of the USMC M40 sniper rifle for 40+ years with no changes to the receiver or extractor and is the choice of more military and law enforcement sniper units than any other rifle.
7. PF actions are not suitable for a DGR and it is irrelevant that the M1, M14, M16, & AK47 which were designed for hunting men that can shoot back are all PF actions.
8. 95 deg F in Africa is different than 95 deg F in TX or CA and that is why you must worry about ammunition temperature in Africa (even though most safaris take place in winter) but not in TX or in CA.
9. The size of a ding in a gun's finish doesn't matter, what matters is whether it’s a safe ding or not.
10. 1 in a row is a trend, 2 in a row is statistically significant, and 3 in a row is an irrefutable fact.
11. Never buy a WSM or RCM cartridge for a safari rifle or your go to rifle in the USA because if they lose your ammo you can't find replacement ammo but don't worry 280 Rem, 338-06, 35 Whelen, and all Weatherby cartridges abound in Africa and back country stores.
12. A well hit animal can run 75 yds. in the open and suddenly drop with no initial blood trail, but the one I shot from 200 yds. away that ran 10 yds. and disappeared into a thicket and was not found was lost because the bullet penciled thru. I am 100% certain of this even though I have no physical evidence.
13. A 300 Win Mag is a 500 yard elk cartridge but a 308 Win is not a 300 yard elk cartridge even though the same bullet is travelling at the same velocity at those respective distances.
08 June 2012, 23:18
Larry Sellers
It seems 15 of the 16 Desert Sheep tags ended up in Non Resident hands??? Can you say major lawsuit coming against the New Mexico Department of Game and Fish? I can. Hold on to your hats, big storm coming.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member
09 June 2012, 05:41
drummondlindsey
quote:
Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
It seems 15 of the 16 Desert Sheep tags ended up in Non Resident hands??? Can you say major lawsuit coming against the New Mexico Department of Game and Fish? I can. Hold on to your hats, big storm coming.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member


Larry, I had no idea that only 1 resident drew one of the new desert bighorn tags! What was the ratio of residents to non residents on the other desert tags? Would be interesting to know who many residents put in for those new tags but only 1 getting drawn is really weird! If I were a resident I would be PISSED!

I wouldn't put anything past NMF&G, it's a corrupt department IMO
09 June 2012, 08:08
DesertRam
Unlike deer and elk, the tags for sheep, ibex, and oryx are not split between residents and non-residents (84/16% split). It's unfortunate (for me especially - I really want to hunt those critters) and irritating, but if I recall correctly has already stood up to legal action. Like it or not, we residents don't get preferential treatment for these tags. Quite the opposite it seems...

Edited to add that the game and fish does't care. They're all about the money, so non-residents drawing these tags for three grand versus my $150 tickles them pink. The NMG&F are money managers, not game managers.


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09 June 2012, 08:53
twoseventy
Happens in Az also. It is because the total number on NR applicants exceeds the number of resident apps. Here in Oregon, most of the people live on the west side so they draw most of the tags. We feed them all year and watch the "Portland Hunters" wander around shooting at them.


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11 June 2012, 20:49
Larry Sellers
drummond - No bad intended on you guys for sure. Hope you have a really great hunt and keep the info coming on future scouting trips. NMG&F are turds for sure!!

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member

quote:
Originally posted by drummondlindsey:
quote:
Originally posted by Larry Sellers:
It seems 15 of the 16 Desert Sheep tags ended up in Non Resident hands??? Can you say major lawsuit coming against the New Mexico Department of Game and Fish? I can. Hold on to your hats, big storm coming.

Larry Sellers
SCI Life Member


Larry, I had no idea that only 1 resident drew one of the new desert bighorn tags! What was the ratio of residents to non residents on the other desert tags? Would be interesting to know who many residents put in for those new tags but only 1 getting drawn is really weird! If I were a resident I would be PISSED!

I wouldn't put anything past NMF&G, it's a corrupt department IMO