If i shoot a 200 kg brown bear at 50 yards in the shoulder whit a 577 T-REX woodleigh soft point at 2500 f/s.

Would that stopp the bear if the bear were running at me....

Maybe maybe not. A lot of strange things happen when you shoot big game no matter what size rifle you shoot them with.

2550fps may cause the Woodleigh to fail. It seems many of their bullets are designed for Nitro Express velocities; anything above that can result in the bullet's destruction.

George

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Shoot straight, shoot often, but by all means, use enough gun!

What soft nose bullets do you think can hold in caliber 577 T-REX and 2500-2600 f/s

Overkill,
A 200 Kg brown bear would be a mere cub just weaned from mama bear's breast. Why would you want to shoot such a small bear?

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Happiness is a warm double and a bloody spear, but a 375 or a 416 will do just fine!
RAB

Well first of all, if you have a brown bear running straight at you, I would not recommend aiming for his shoulder. If you do, the bullet will be on a path that will not take it directly through the heart/lung area, so you will likely not kill the bear outright.

The best shot placement would be to shoot him right under the chin, but not in the face. This is the recommended shot placement for African lions, and it does well for bears. I've used this shot placement myself on a mountain grizzly at under forty yards.

The 577 T-Rex should certainly kill a brown bear in convincing fashion if you place the bullet well and if said bullet performs according to script. For my own use, I'd go with a .375 H&H or a .416 Remington.

AD

Aww hell...I should not have looked at this post.

Back in 1995 before I bought my .500 A-Sq. I called the company to ask about their bullets and exactly the question Overkill asks.
For those who have Alphins reloading manual "Any Shot You Want" look up the section on A-Sq Triad bullets in particular the "Lion Load". This bullet is supposed to have a thin brittle jacket and a core alloyed so it too is brittle. The idea is the bullet breaks up and stays within the animal, that is the idea anyway. Alphin told me that this bullet was designed for lion and up. He felt these bullets on a side shoulder shot would blow through with a .500. Assuming of course you don't hit the bone. I still have one box of both Dead Tough and Lion Loads. I have shot the older Dead Tough into a water box and it impressed me, blew the box completely apart. I might be able to try this again with a Lion Load. I am curious to see. It is a drag though, while the box is not hard at all to build from scrap plywood, the water to fill it is really cumbersome to tote around. And you only use it once per shot.

Overkill, I think you would kill the bear.

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Overkill
If you can't drop that bear with a T-rex that close, the bear will probably slip on something brown and mushy underfoot and go down anyway.

If you miss a bear at that close a range you deserve to get eaten.....

I usually don't answer these questions. However, as to Rockhead's reply, you would be amazed at what can happen when a brownie is coming at you. Anything is possible...I say again, anything is possible and I don't care who you are or how much experience you have. With a brownie, it's not over until he's nailed to the wall.

Oh I agree with you yukon,I was just having some fun with overkill...

OVERKILL

Why don't you try so the rest of us can learn how things go. Then we will know who makes it. Darwin would have loved this.

/ JOHAN

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The only thing a charging Brownie is going to slip on is you, if you flinched while lighting that cannon. Under the chin if you have time, you ever seen how fast they run! They don't roll around whining after being shot, they'll come after what shot them. If you hit him, he would probably drop, but he would probably get up too, so the question is how fast can you deliver another shot?

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Brent

HI
why not a RECOILLESS rocket launcher or bazooka. it would certainly kill the bear and save you the pain of skining the beast!!