9,3 x 65 R Drilling - too good to be true ?!

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07 February 2002, 09:52

carcano91

9,3 x 65 R Drilling - too good to be true ?!

I won't believe it... just got off the phone when responding to a classified ad. An elderly gentleman apparently found an old Drilling that had been kept in stasis in a greased blanket for the last 50 years or so.
Teschner & Collath, 16/70, 16/70, 9,3 x 65 R.

Price ? He "has no idea". Whew - first time I ever hear of a real existing gun for this strongest of all German rimmed cartridges.

What would be a expectable US price ? Condition is so-so, he says, with corrosion in the first 3-5 millimeters of the muzzles.

Carcano, flabbergasted

07 February 2002, 11:14

<Don Martin29>

I really like my drilling. In my opinion 16ga is the best gauge for one or a side by side shotgun for that matter.

I will check back later and post some sites for value but I would go and see it in person if I were you.

I think my Sauer 16X16X8X57JR with the scopes is worth $3,000. I would not sell it for any price. If I do I will just never find another.

You have to make sure it works! At least your in the country where they were made.

07 February 2002, 11:19

carcano91

Hello Don,
my fascination is due to the rifle barrel. Drillinge - generally speaking - are thrown after you at every street corner here, and during the next 10 years, the market will be *flooded* with used Drillingen.

But a 9,3 x 65 R - now that is almost unheard of... the fabled, mythical sister of the 9,3 x 64 S, vanished from the face of the earth for the last 60 years.

Regards,
Carcano

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07 February 2002, 13:11

Fritz Kraut

Carcano,

that sound very interesting. First, I have seen some Collaths in the more modest 9,3x72R, but all were very fine pices of work. Second, which is your main point, the rather rare caliber. If you can get it, go with it!

But what about ammo? Which cases are used and which prestanda are obtained? And please some more words about it. You have to satisfy our curiosity a bit more!

Best regards,

Fritz

07 February 2002, 13:38

carcano91

quote:
Originally posted by Fritz Kraut:
But what about ammo? Which cases are used and which prestanda are obtained? And please some more words about it. You have to satisfy our curiosity a bit more!

One could think of using any belted magnum case as a base; but that would entail extensive work in turning off the belt, and turning down (or swaging) the case bottom. The rim still would be a bit thin.
A far easier solution jumped to the light: the popular .45 Basic case is long enough and has correct bottom dimensions, and its rim can easily be turned down a bit. But is it really sturdy enough for this medium high-pressure round ?

Carcano

08 February 2002, 01:35

carcano91

Indeed, to good to be true ! :-<

Probably this is the older and milder 9,3 x 65 R Teschner & Collath, not a 9,3 x 65 R Brenneke. Anyone here who would have access to Dixon's "European Sporting Cartridges" and could look it up ?

Thanks,
Carcano

08 February 2002, 04:11

WannabeBwana

Carcano91,

Please e-mail me. I have a line on a Drilling 16 ga./9.3 X 72R. No idea of the make or value. Coming up at an auction.

I can send you a picture, but don't have your e-mail. Perhaps you can help?

11 February 2002, 22:27

aHunter

I would triple check the shotgun bbls, too: elder guns often had 16/65! I would advise to use 65 or RWS 67 mm shells, anyway.

Tell us about which rifle caliber, and how you make cases.

Have fun! Hermann

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11 February 2002, 23:59

carcano91

Dear Hermann,

the rifle barrel is most probably chambered for the 9,3 x 65 R Teschner & Collath, which is derived from the 9,3 x 72 R case family. Thus, the gun is uninteresting. *Sigh*

Carcano