Take a look over at Hornadys web site... I guess they are jumping on the old bandwagon also

Look for them in March? Yeah, right. We'll see.

Right off the bat, I see they'll have the 139-grain SSTs as an InterBond, so that's what I'll start feeding my .280 AI... and if the .30-caliber 150s work well in my Striker, I'll have a use for them, too.

Russ

I also took great interest in their "Quite simply the InterBond will never, ever, ever separate!" comment.

Clearly, they haven't let any Marines use them yet.

Russ

russ it looks like ill give them a ring in my 270, I am sure I can work them into at least one hunt

Thats a funky looking bullet. Should be interesting to see how they perform.

These are some of my most used bullet weights from Hornady. I'm looking forward to trying them. - Dan

I guess they haven't been keeping track with all those 270cal 150gr bullets I've been buying.....

I'd be a little more excited if they offered up a 150gr for 270. Hopefully they will beat out Nosler on price. Might be worth it then.

I can't wait! My 7mmremMag loves hornady interlocks but I'm affraid to use them on bigger than deer game after I had a 154gr. come apart on a mountain goat.

boilerroom,

Funny you should mention that..... I had a 150gr Interlock come apart on me this weekend. It was a close contact shot (15yds). I got shoulder, spine, and off side ribs. The bullet came apart completely. The deer dropped and twitched a little

There was a good hole in the off side rib cage, but it didn't punch all the way through.

This is good stuff! Should be about the toughest Hornady ever made along with being accurate and having a high BC.

They'll need to make them in heavier weights before I'll bite though.

Good Lord, they don't offer a .308" 180 gr or .338" 225 gr or any heavy weight in any caliber! Who needs "bonded core" bullets for deer!?! The point of bullets like this is for big, big game... not deer-sized stuff which dies amply with conventional "cup" bullets. Nosler definately got it "right" with their new line.

Brad,

I can't remember if it was on this site but I saw a thread recently on the Nosler Bonded Ballistic Tips and the posters seemed to complaining becase all the Noslers were only at the very top end of weights like 160 in 7mm and 200 in 30.

Mike

Mike, I'm shocked to learn there'd be a difference of opinion on these boards

These type of bonded bullets generally open up to a large diameter and, IMO, need a little extra weight/SD to drive them deeper than, say, a Partition.

Guess I should be happy we're getting so many choices... now if Speer can get its act together and release the long awaited DeepShok bullets.

BA

I think I will try some when they come out,but in a non-magum rifle I don't think they will do any better than the SST's on deer,I have been using them in all my calibers the last 2 years
Took 9 deer with them the last 2 years,in different cals and gr weights and they worked very good from 45 to 200 yds.I don't know about the mags don't shoot them.Would just like to see the difference in accuracy.

IMO, neither company has intro'd the best weights in their new lines. Nosler's 200gr 30cal is nice but a 180gr would have suited more users, and Hornady's lightweight offering is better? No thanks. At this point I'll be trying the Noslers and let someone else give Hornady their money.

John, I agree I'd have preferred a 180 from Nosler... I'll bet they introduce them if the line takes off. Funny both co's skipped right over "THE" 308" bullet... 180!

BA

Brad,

I seem to remember reading once that Hornadies most popular bullet was the 30 calibre 150 grain.

Would these bonded bullets be better for less meat damage than non bonded and if so, perhaps that is the big market for them since the deer is waht you blokes shoot most.

Mike

Jeeze Mike, I've got absolutely no idea... you're right of course, most US hunter's are after deer. I suppose Hornady might be pretty smart after all! Too, I'd bet you a Foster's (or whatever your choice) we'll see a 180 from them too. In a 300 Mag, antelope to moose, I think the 180's are the best. Most guys are using 308's and 30-06's on deer where a good 150 or 165 will shine.

BA

Can't wait til March. Don't laugh but it is possible that I'll shoot these at deer

Well, some one has to disagree! For my use I think Hornady got it right. I have been waiting for a 140 grain bonded plastic tip for my lightweight 284 for backpack sheep hunting. Not for the sheep but to make me more comfortable in grizzly country. Something about having fresh grizzly tracks over your tracks, tracks near your tent, etc makes me lean toward the fail safes and the like. Now I'll be using the bonded Hornady.

Not to mention, I read recently that Nosler originally tried to produce a longer ballistic tip than the 150 grainer in 7mm, but found they wouldn't stabilize in the standard twists of most 7mm's. So what makes us think that the addition of a bonded core will make a 160 grainer suddenly stabilize in these barrels?

Rick, thing is your needs fit a pretty thin market ... SA 284 Win for sheep in grizzly country! In that scenario I think you're right!

BTW, I never like finding my tracks covered with a grizzlies either... shiver! Especially bivouacked out in the open!

BA

Brad, in that respect I agree about a thin market. But I think the smaller cased 7-08's and 280's will benefit more from a plastic-tipped bonded bullet than an Ultra will, hence the lighter weights. On elk, for example. But with the larger cases, how much are we really gaining by using a 200 grain bonded plastic tip over a partition in a 300Wby? (and I'm a huge 300Wby fan). Any advantage is on the far side of 350 yards. Fun to talk about but how applicable in real life hunting?

What I would like to see is more med weight varmit plastic tipped projectiles in calibers like 257,270 ect. in weights like .257/100, .277/130. Of course these companies probably worry about getting a bad rap when some rednecks shoot their beanfield rifles with these at deer.

Well, if you want bigger calibers and heavier weights, call and write Hornady.

800-338-3220

Hornady Manufacturing Company
Box 1848
Grand Island, NE

webmaster@hornady.com

Russ

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