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14 May 2016, 03:33
mete
Earliest People In America
https://www.sciencedaily.com/r.../05/160513151221.htm
Very interesting !Must have been a busy place .Glad to see more info showing the Clovis theory is wrong . There was too much nonsense there "why did you stop digging ? " "Every one knows that there is nothing before Clovis " wave
14 May 2016, 05:06
OLBIKER
They found bones of Caucasians in Oregon predating Indian bones.The natives were pissed.
14 May 2016, 19:56
TomP
A little east of Barstow is a somewhat controversial dig where there were stone tools found in a layer of earth that is 200,000 years old.
The style of the stone tools is said to be only 20,000 years old, though.


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15 May 2016, 19:06
slim buttes
That is called science. We get new information/evidence that adds more to our knowledge. In science one needs to understand that ones theory could be proven incorrect. Good science is reviewed by peers and open to scrutiny.

And this new information only suggests an earlier date it doesn't debunk any theory human migration only the dates it occurred.

Lastly OLBIKER, I believe you are referring to Kennewick Man, found in WA state. After DNA testing the evidence suggests not "Caucasian" (European). If you were not referring to Kennewick man, please post a reference. After reading your post I did a Google search for "Oregon caucasian bones found before native americans", lots of links to Kennewick Man and then I went to the Wikipedia page regarding Kennewick man. Now others could look to see how I came up with my information and do their own research. Kind of like science.

The problem is people really don't understand that in science being wrong is just as important as being right, it adds to the body of knowledge.
15 May 2016, 19:42
Bill/Oregon
Saw that article, too. Maybe some day they will find human DNA pre-Clovis and we'll learn more.


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15 May 2016, 20:00
OLBIKER
quote:
Originally posted by slim buttes:
That is called science. We get new information/evidence that adds more to our knowledge. In science one needs to understand that ones theory could be proven incorrect. Good science is reviewed by peers and open to scrutiny.

And this new information only suggests an earlier date it doesn't debunk any theory human migration only the dates it occurred.

Lastly OLBIKER, I believe you are referring to Kennewick Man, found in WA state. After DNA testing the evidence suggests not "Caucasian" (European). If you were not referring to Kennewick man, please post a reference. After reading your post I did a Google search for "Oregon caucasian bones found before native americans", lots of links to Kennewick Man and then I went to the Wikipedia page regarding Kennewick man. Now others could look to see how I came up with my information and do their own research. Kind of like science.

The problem is people really don't understand that in science being wrong is just as important as being right, it adds to the body of knowledge.


You are probably right.My mind has all kinds of useless information stored in it that pops out occasionally. Big Grin
15 May 2016, 20:24
Crazyhorseconsulting
quote:
The problem is people really don't understand that in science being wrong is just as important as being right, it adds to the body of knowledge.


Too bad too many folks do not grasp that concept, Global Warming comes to mind.


Even the rocks don't last forever.



16 May 2016, 11:06
delloro
quote:
Originally posted by TomP:
A little east of Barstow is a somewhat controversial dig where there were stone tools found in a layer of earth that is 200,000 years old.
The style of the stone tools is said to be only 20,000 years old, though.


Calico early man site near Newberry springs.
16 May 2016, 18:59
Crazyhorseconsulting
Could be wrong about this, but in archaeological digs, the base strata the specimens are found on are not really considered in aging the specimens, the layers of material covering the specimens are the important indicators. The Bed Rock/Base Rock will be much older, but time and weathering since the artifacts were left are part of what is used to determine the time frame.


Even the rocks don't last forever.



19 May 2016, 10:05
boarkiller
Kennewick man was a scientific and judicial disaster and it shows how biased Indians can be and how afraid they are of their own history
What if boogie man white man by some chance showed up early in Americas


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11 June 2016, 07:39
JBoutfishn
Just finished reading about the Spirit Cave Man. An other unanswered question. Confused


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11 June 2016, 09:16
mete
Global Warming was a fraud from the start as was Clovis .

Man digs down but stops at Clovis .
"Why did you stop ?"
"Because Everybody knows there's nothing before Clovis"
Too many were involved with the Clovis nonsence.Finally we have lot's of proof there was life before Clovis !
11 June 2016, 19:54
Bill/Oregon
Here is a very cool site at Texas A&M:

http://csfa.tamu.edu/


There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t.
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