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30 August 2002, 17:36
<quickdraw>
Is The Accurate Rifle Worth The Money?
I've seen a few copies of The Accurate Rifle magazine. It seems to be pretty good, but is it worth the money to a hunter interested in accuracy. I know this is subjective, but I just want to know your opinions.

Thanks,
QD
31 August 2002, 02:08
<338Lapua>
I have been a subscriber since the magazine's inception when it was called "Tactical Shooter". The magazine has gone down hill big time. I like reading Mic McPherson's articles but it seems alot of the article are boring. I will not re-subscribe

Just my opinion.

Jim
31 August 2002, 02:24
Recono
338Lapua is not far off. I think they had some articles on the .408 CheyTac not too long ago, and they're doing a few reminiscences on Elmer Keith, but I'm getting less and less impressed by that and PS both. Not that anyone could do it better - I think there's less to write about, now. Hell, Saeed's contest for the field guides stands some chance of producing more good stories than most of the gun rags have.

But it's more fun than reading the newspapers.
31 August 2002, 02:55
<mikeh416Rigby>
I don't care for it anymore. It used to be really good, but the last several months tremendously boring. [Frown]
31 August 2002, 03:08
<green 788>
I agree with the above post. I wasn't a subscriber, but did have several copies of the old "Tactical Shooter." It was a good magazine.

I guess someone thought "Tactical Shooter" was too politically incorrect, so they changed it to "The Accurate Rifle," and began teaching us math instead of riflery.

All the rocket science they often use to presumably prove a point doesn't mean beans to most readers. And the larger point is that eggheads rarely agree with each other as to why bullet "A" went to point "B", so just because an article looks good on paper, that doesn't mean it provides "accurate" information.

I don't care for the "deductive" reasoning that many gunwriters and authors use to tell us what it takes to make a rifle accurate. This approach fails to take into account all of the exceptions that exist to their theories (and they usually won't even admit that their thoughts are theories!).

I prefer "inductive" reasoning wherein we begin with an accurate rifle that really shouldn't be accurate by all known standards, and see what can really be learned about rifle accuracy.

What I've learned so far:

1. The ammunition is probably 90% of whether a rifle will shoot 1/2 MOA or not. (I consider 1/2 MOA "accurate" for all practical purposes).

2. Custom barrels are usually more accurate than factory barrels.

3. Some factory barrels shoot as good or better than many custom barrels.

4. Glass bedding the action in the recoil lug and tang area is one of the biggest aids to accuracy.

5. Free floating the barrel, to about 2 inches ahead of the chamber, is another big benefit to getting the most out of *most* rifles.

6. It is important that the bolt lugs be lapped evenly.

7. A good trigger is imperative if you want consistently tight groups.

8. A good scope and mounting system is very important for consistency.

9. The shooter is always the weakest link to accuracy. Keeping a record of a rifle's average grouping efforts and assigning that score to the rifle alone is ludicrous, and certainly unfair to the rifle!

10. You don't need to take out a second mortgage to be able to afford an accurate rifle. A properly fed Savage 10FP can shoot 1/4 MOA fairly regularly. The custom's advantages will include a smooter, easier to clean bore, much nicer aesthetics, and better market value (though it would almost certainly liquid out at about the same percentage of its initial cost as the lowly Savage!) But the accuracy advantage that customs used to handily enjoy over factory rifles is no longer there, at least so when considering the Savage line...

My thoughts, my opinions... [Smile]

Dan Newberry
green 788
31 August 2002, 03:30
Recono
quote:
Originally posted by green 788:
I guess someone thought "Tactical Shooter" was too politically incorrect, so they changed it to "The Accurate Rifle," and began teaching us math instead of riflery.

Dan,

If you had subscribed, you would have read the editor's explanation. Simple economics - advertising in PS pays, so advertisers do it. Advertising in TS didn't, so they didn't, at least not for long. What will happen to AR remains to be seen.
31 August 2002, 07:40
Cold Bore
I'll just echo the crowd here. I used to subscribe to both (actually three... PS, and TS then TAR), but let the subscriptions expire last year. I honestly don't miss either one. They were just getting less & less applicable to my type of shooting, and harder & harder to follow sometimes. It got to where I found very little of interest to read. Besides, the subscription isn't exactly cheap. I figured if I was paying that much for two subscriptions, I should at least be finding SOMETHING in there that I really wanted to read.

The reason for the name change is pretty much as said above. The Tactical Shooter was looking at too narrow of a market; the Accurate Rifle seemed to take in more shooters from a marketing/advertising standpoint.
31 August 2002, 08:35
<JOHAN>
Gentlemen

I think most gun rags are soo bad they are not even worth the money. I have quited subscription long time ago.

I used to enjoy reading, Riflemag, Handloader, PS and AR. None of the is worth their salt anymore.

I buy books about hunting and shooting insteead of magazines. A least your bookshelf will have most classic books about hunting and shooting, instead of a pile of dog eared magazines of poor quality.

If you would like get the latest or new ideas for a while, log on to this excellent forum [Big Grin] [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

Cheers
/ JOHAN
31 August 2002, 15:27
<quickdraw>
Johan,

I agree. Accuratereloading is really the best forum on the net. Marlintalk is also excellent for its audience.

Thanks for saving me a few bucks. I guess I'll use it to tune up my skeet shooting.

Best,
QD
01 September 2002, 09:03
<GeorgeInNePa>
Well, I for one enjoy both mags.
01 September 2002, 05:13
<Don Martin29>
green 788,

I enjoyed reading your commentary.

But the Savage 110 is below my horizon style wise.

I have read a couple of "Accurate Rifles" and enjoyed the article. Magazine subscriptions are cheap and you can let them expire. There are a lot more magazines now than when I was just getting into it. I get them free from friends, can get them at the club free and leave my old ones there. I was looking for the articles someone mentioned on a custom smith and went thru piles of old Rifle and Handloader mags. I got interested in a article or two. There is not much new in rifles at all and so much to read.

All I get is the American Rifleman and the American Hunter. The rest I trade for.