quote:Originally posted by ted thorn:
60 grns H4831SC with just about any 130 grn bullet
quote:Originally posted by 35whelenman:
I've sweated more blood free trailing jobs than those with blood on the ground.
This past May a sable in Mozambique took a quartering-on shot that broke the near shoulder, wrecked the near lung and heart, and clipped the back half of the off-side lung before lodging under the skin. No blood, no hair, and no tracks on the ground. Trackers swore they heard the bullet hit, but couldn't find a single sign of the bull. Feeling desperate, I walked to a small cluster of palms and termite mounds to try and get an elevated few. There was the bull, dead 100 yards from where he'd been shot. That's an experience I'm not willingly repeating, and so I look for my rounds to exit.
I also will only have a precious few days to hunt, so I may only get one good shot opportunity, and that may be a quartering on shot that has to get through a bull elk's shoulder. My long-time load of 130 grain Hornady Interlock SPs, probably isn't up to that type of shot. So I'm thinking monolithic in 130 grains, or bonded in 150 grains.
quote:My best friend uses a .270 for about everything. Having seen him shoot 150 pound whitetails that leave no blood trail and run 100 to 250 yards would make me uncomfortable with it also. He was using Remington green box 130's. So, perhaps a premium would help
quote:Originally posted by Snellstrom:quote:My best friend uses a .270 for about everything. Having seen him shoot 150 pound whitetails that leave no blood trail and run 100 to 250 yards would make me uncomfortable with it also. He was using Remington green box 130's. So, perhaps a premium would help
Sorry to break the news but a "premium bullet" or a different caliber will not help your friend.
I suspect some poor shooting, if he can correct that he could move to a .223 and reliably kill 150 pound whitetails.
There is not an Elk on the planet that will take a double lung shot whether it exits or not with a .270, and Remington or Winchester cup and core ammo and come anywhere close to surviving it.
quote:Originally posted by Snellstrom:quote:My best friend uses a .270 for about everything. Having seen him shoot 150 pound whitetails that leave no blood trail and run 100 to 250 yards would make me uncomfortable with it also. He was using Remington green box 130's. So, perhaps a premium would help
Sorry to break the news but a "premium bullet" or a different caliber will not help your friend.
I suspect some poor shooting, if he can correct that he could move to a .223 and reliably kill 150 pound whitetails.
There is not an Elk on the planet that will take a double lung shot whether it exits or not with a .270, and Remington or Winchester cup and core ammo and come anywhere close to surviving it.
quote:I have seen him shoot 4 this way, all with the same lack of blood trail.
same way everyone else does, move the direction they ran, look for the nasty, thick and deep ravine. Get down in the gully and check the brush piles. As we are hunting my family farm that has been in my family for 120 years and I have been hunting it over 50 years. I generally, have a good idea where the deer will go. Shots range between 30 and 130 yards from the hunting cabin. Depending on if the game comes from the left, right or front, you can pick the gully they wil fun to. I have only lost 1 deer in hunting almost 60 years. I did find it the next day, but the coyotes got to it first.quote:Originally posted by p dog shooter:quote:I have seen him shoot 4 this way, all with the same lack of blood trail.
So how did you find them.
quote:Originally posted by ted thorn:
60 grns H4831SC with just about any 130 grn bullet