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Deer ID????
07 March 2014, 15:00
tendramsDeer ID????
Two things, first the tall and not so wide, and the metric scale, I am guessing Fallow.
Any additional information, how you came by the photo, what area etc....
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07 March 2014, 16:04
miketaylorI would say Fallow.
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07 March 2014, 17:55
WV2WY+1 for Fallow
07 March 2014, 18:16
CrazyhorseconsultingPlus 1 more for Fallow.
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07 March 2014, 19:50
tendramsSkull was found in place that could bias the responses so I am keeping it a secret until we get more replies. Will let the cat out of the bag in due time.
07 March 2014, 20:55
Wendell ReichIts a Fallow Deer.
07 March 2014, 21:00
NavalukNo ivories or sockets for them so I am crossing elk off the list of suspects.
08 March 2014, 11:05
tendramsOK, here's the interesting thing. The skull was found in Egypt's eastern desert so it is EXTREMELY unlikely that the animal is a native. Although Egypt historically had Persian Fallow, it seems much MUCH more likely that this creature was brought in for Arab hunters to chase around. Given that, the options for "what it might be" seem limitless but with a possible bias toward Asian deer species.
08 March 2014, 17:34
Wendell ReichEverything about this says "Fallow" The first 12" or so of the beam, how it curves and the first tines especially. Overall shape of the entire rack is Fallow. I have some fallow sheds that have the same tops as this.
I can't make this into anything other than a 2 maybe 3 year old fallow Deer.
08 March 2014, 18:47
tendramsIn another interesting twist regarding age, the teeth were worn down to the nub and/or naturally missing (not lost post-mortem).
08 March 2014, 20:29
tendramsInitial suspects ranged from White-lipped deer to Fallow to Persian Fallow to Barasingha. DNA tests are scheduled for Tuesday.
09 March 2014, 06:11
Aspen Hill AdventuresIt's a fallow deer.
~Ann
quote:
Originally posted by Aspen Hill Adventures:
It's a fallow deer.
Yep!
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10 March 2014, 20:47
drummondlindseyIts a dead deer. I'm positive of that
11 March 2014, 19:28
ravenrIts a dead deer skull.
I'm positive of that...
21 March 2014, 04:31
Wendell Reichquote:
Originally posted by tendrams:
Initial suspects ranged from White-lipped deer to Fallow to Persian Fallow to Barasingha. DNA tests are scheduled for Tuesday.
Any news?
23 March 2014, 15:41
tendramsThey are trying to get enough DNA to sequence. Could be another couple weeks.
26 March 2014, 14:26
tendramsI know nothing about this process, it's a colleague doing the work. I believe there was some hair under the base of the antler and there appears to be some flesh in and around the outside of the base of the skull.
It probably escaped from Saeed's zoo !
27 March 2014, 08:03
Mike_DettorreTendrams,
What kinda worthless friggin PhD are you?
"I know nothing about the process"...well neither does my labrador.
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