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.223 or 45LC for deer?
15 February 2002, 16:16
Major Caliber.223 or 45LC for deer?
I know the answer, but I had a guy tell me he had 2 rifles. He had an AR-15 in .223, and a lever action in .45LC. He said he was going on his first deer hunt, said he was taking the AR15. I told him, no the 45LC was a much better choice, he said I was crazy, the .223 has more muzzle energy, and the 69gr matchking was very accurate and that was what he was going to use. I couldn't talk him out of it, 2 weeks later, he tells me he can't understand how, that busk ran off, after he shot him at 75yds with the AR15. He couldn't find a blood trail, and never found the deer.
15 February 2002, 16:22
<Boyd Heaton>If he shot it at 75 yard's with a 69gr Match King and he did not find a blood trail.HE MISSED!!!!!!!!
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I HUNT LONG RANGE.AND YES I USE MATCHKING'S.
15 February 2002, 16:27
Major Caliberquote:
Originally posted by Boyd Heaton:
If he shot it at 75 yard's with a 69gr Match King and he did not find a blood trail.HE MISSED!!!!!!!!
Maybe not!
15 February 2002, 16:34
<Boyd Heaton>A 69gr Matchking at around 3000fps will leave a blood trail.And it will also leave an exit hole the size of a baseball.If there was no blood or hair HE MISSED.
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I HUNT LONG RANGE.AND YES I USE MATCHKING'S.
15 February 2002, 16:42
Major CaliberMatchkings explode. and won't kill a jackrabbit!!
15 February 2002, 16:55
<Boyd Heaton>Yep you are right.You know the answer.NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
15 February 2002, 17:06
<ultramag>You guys are wasting these posts!!!!!!!! You should have them on the Matchking thread so you can count them towards your 1000!
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May your chambers be true to your bores.
15 February 2002, 17:14
Major CaliberI like to plink at beer cans, I quit using MatchKings cause they couldn't penetrate the cans!
15 February 2002, 17:24
<Big Stick>I very much like the 223 for Deer,when paired with the W/W64gr PowerPoint and lit with Re-15.................
15 February 2002, 17:26
<Boyd Heaton>How many of those beer can's did you empty before you started plinking.You first have to HIT the can before you put a hole in it.
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I HUNT LONG RANGE.AND YES I USE MATCHKING'S.
15 February 2002, 18:35
<Boyd Heaton>And to answer your?.223 all the way.SPEED KILL'S......
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I HUNT LONG RANGE.AND YES I USE MATCHKING'S.
16 February 2002, 03:43
EterryMy hunting buddy bought a single shot in 223 for his grandkid. I have helped drag several deer, and a couple hogs that was taken with the 223 and 69 gr. softpoints. When you connect, it seems to work like lightning.
Good luck and good shooting
16 February 2002, 05:30
<Mike M>Actually, the correct answer to the guy's question of "which rifle?" is -- Niether one!
16 February 2002, 06:29
Mark GI don't know about your friend, and I am not suggesting the use of one over the other but - I could kill deer with either till pigs fly.
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Thanks, Mark G
"Everything that lives and moves will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything." Genesis 9:3
16 February 2002, 10:54
p dog shooterI belive that a lot of I could find the deer is 1 he missed 2 the deer ran off so they didn''t look. If you don't have some hair or something you most likey missed. They want to blame the bullet but it is most lilely a miss. Missing a deer at 75 yards isn't that hard if it is bushy or running. Standing their broad side is another thing.
16 February 2002, 15:06
GatogordoWell, while neither is a really good deer round, but IF I had to choose one, I would take the .223 in a heartbeat. With an accurate AR-15 I could head shoot them to 300 yards or better, and kill them easily with a heart lung shot and decent bullets farther than that. Not to mention the ease of a fast follow-up if needed with a 15. Anyone who thinks the .45LC is more than a 100 yard deer cartridge, at best, and that is pushing it, is nuts. Not that it can't kill them farther, but can you accurately place it with the looping trajectory?
16 February 2002, 16:06
<heavy varmint>While it is to early to establish any conclusion most of the replies here would lead one to believe that the 223 is a tried and true deer rifle.
I can't help but wonder how different this thread may have started if the original poster would have asked the simple question "Is my 223 a deer rifle"?